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Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Half of American households get Govt benefits, HALF...think about that.

Source: Entitlements grow


Yeah, that is staggering. The article also goes on to say, "More than half of U.S. workers don't earn enough to be taxed"

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so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days
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skicat2001, Here is your girl, just like her friend Palin. Retarded.

Funny, Christine O'Donnell blanks on First Amendment.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/10/20/ac.odonnell.constitution.gaffe.cnn?hpt=C2
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Wow! That is a sad sad video. She and Palin should have a sleepover and discuss the "Constitution". That chick is like a parrot and has no knowledge behind the sound bytes. What a joke!!!!!

The fact that half of the workers in the US do not even make enough to be taxed also speaks volumes. If all you can earn is minimum wage and you have 1 child how could you not be on some sort of gvt assistance. Free lunch at school, daycare, and housing will all be subsidised in some way if all you take home is minimum wage.   Its just not enough to live on- period.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


I dont need them! They can go hell far as I know.
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I didnt speak of she was my girl phosper. You where blasting in your post Shawn Hannity. Or did I read that wrong.

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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

im going to see if i can be Jesse Ventura's side kick on his new show "conspiracy theory" I was glued to the TV last night, underground bunkers for 2012 for the rich, global warming.
the taboo has been placed on conspiracy's over the years, kinda like the boy that cried wolf, but one day the boy did get ate by the wolf


Eric,

We have our views and they are very different, please do not tell me you beleive Ventura's therory about the GOVERMENT CAUSED 9/11/2010.
When that dumbass put that on television I about myself out the chair.

It is amazing what people believe and will put on the tv. I guess people do not or ever think "outside the box"!
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


Turning ourselves into, or being turned into buy our leaders? The democratic strategy has long been to create a dependant class that is a built in voter pool. Providing just enough benefit that makes it hard to take a minimum wage job, and escape the system. Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more. Add the every expanding payroll of government jobs and you getover half of americans benefiting from bigger goverment. Unfortunatly it has to be payed by someone and those in the privat sector will bail as their costs increase and rewards decrease leaving a massive system with no one to pay.
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ski, directly or indirectly..they did
its amazing what people dont believe

I suppose to this day you believe there was WMD, you were told that so i suppose you believe that....what this thread is about is the loss of trust in our government and the shysters running it.'
I loved Billy Clinton, but he denied and denied to the bitter end, and i Can still see his face on the boob tube, I knew right then he was lying just as i did when Bush was told the planes hit the towers....but again people in that type of power dont lie
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


Unfortunatly it has to be payed by someone and those in the privat sector will bail as their costs increase and rewards decrease leaving a massive system with no one to pay.


...And for these people they increase taxes. That's ral fair!
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ski, I would tend to more believe the show was created to create a dis-illusion to promote as did the 2000 bug...again, was there wmd's....NO
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just once please say, yes Bush lied
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more.


   and to quote Gerald Ford:

    " A govt. big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have"

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George Bush Stimulis pakage = I got a check fro $300
Obama Stimulis pakage, my healthcare and tax bill went up.

Gee, GW I bought a wake board
Obama, I can't afford to get a headache,
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Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Half of American households get Govt benefits, HALF...think about that.

Source: Entitlements grow


Yeah, that is staggering. The article also goes on to say, "More than half of U.S. workers don't earn enough to be taxed"



Are you saying this is a good thing or a bad thing?

On the whole Christine O'Donnell thing, I heard a couple sound bites the other day that absolutely cracked me up. Here are the two things that caught my attention:

1. Her opponent could not correctly name the 5 freedoms the 1st Amendment protects.

2. She was correct and her opponent incorrect about the fact the Constitution says nothing about "Seperation of Church and State".

It's funny how people who actually know the Constitution and what it says get bashed on. Is that because it doesn't help serve the agenda of those that are trying to convince us it says something different than it does?
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Originally posted by 05 210 05 210 wrote:

Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more.


   and to quote Gerald Ford:

    " A govt. big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have"

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Some of yall need to think more like Andy and Kevin...

Thanks Andy..

Now you know why and how Obama got voted for. Our ignorance shows sometimes.

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Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the Department of Energy, during the Carter Administration?

We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency, the reason for which I could not remember.

It was The Department Of Energy instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL. Pretty efficient???

NOW IT'S 2010, 33 YEARS LATER, AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. IT HAS 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!

33 Years ago 30% of our oil consumption was from foreign Imports. Today 70% of our oil consumption is from foreign imports.

Now, Thanks to the Obama Administration on a House and Senate spending spree agreed to HAVE THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY MANAGED BY THE SAME GOVERNMENT System.
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so I see when bad things happen it wasnt the party before responsible? thats usually how things go when something good happens.

Obama got voted in because of the greedy pubs, i thought i would never vote in a ------ you guys left nothing on the board, Palin what a fcn joke. the GOP still cant get it together....I would really be worrying about another 2 years from now.....or you are going to see the same sht.....fck, the way it was going Bush and his boys wouldve had you guy's
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BTW, 89ski, the US military uses more petroleum than the US consumers
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

BTW, 89ski, the US military uses more petroleum than the US consumers


Most of that is in Pelosi's Jet
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We may see a reversal of the past 2 years. In very liberal southern Maine, a very conservative Republican has caught up to a very liberal Dem congress women and is in a dead heat. Very unusual to happen here.
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Sign on side of road says democrat kittens for sale. Gyy drives by and asks the kid how much. The kids answers 5 dollars and the guy says he will think about it. Next day the guy returns but now the sign says republican kittens 10 bucks. He asks the kid what changed. The kid says today they have their eyes open.
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Love the commercials. Democrats just sttaight up stand for goverment reform, and conservatives stand for the "American Dream"!

Democrats with all this goverment reform, more goverment involvment and take over peoples wealth, and think the poor create is just obserd. Plus, some of there core values is just out in left field.

Eric, quite blamming Bush...
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I'm not sure why we tend to blame the President when Congress is the one enacting these bills that take us in a negative direction as a country.

Along the lines of the Energy Bill from back during the Carter years is the Fair Housing related legislation. Much like the Energy bill causing more harm than good, the housing bills have created quite a problem 20-30 years later.
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I took a Fair Housing seminar a while back and learned that terms like "master bedroom" and "walk in closet" can be offensive and should not be used. They pay people to come up with this stuff.
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Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

skicat2001, Here is your girl, just like her friend Palin. Retarded.

Funny, Christine O'Donnell blanks on First Amendment.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/10/20/ac.odonnell.constitution.gaffe.cnn?hpt=C2


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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

BTW, 89ski, the US military uses more petroleum than the US consumers


Most of that is in Pelosi's Jet


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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

ski, directly or indirectly..they did
its amazing what people dont believe

I suppose to this day you believe there was WMD, you were told that so i suppose you believe that....what this thread is about is the loss of trust in our government and the shysters running it.'


Eric, He used them on the Curds. How can you denie he had theme!!!!! we found cleaned up mobile labs, empty warheads with chemicle residue, and also removed over five tons of yellow cake uranium out of iraq in the clean up phase. I dont think that was for cancer treatment. If it was that big of a conspiracy don't you think the CIA would have planted a few things for the boys to find just to back up w's story. I know your mind is made up and you dont want to be confused by the facts, but give it a rest. For the record I am sure bush lied about something. He is a politician. You can tell when they are lying because thier lips are moving. Just like when Obama said "I will reach across the isle" "I am not an idealog" "You will be able to keep your own insurance" "Healthcare reform will be budget nuetral" " If we do not pass the stimulus unemployment will go over 8%" and "I will not rest until we fix the economy" Why is it you cant get over Bush doing it but you let it go from all others?
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