Obamarama
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Topic: Obamarama
Posted By: eric lavine
Subject: Obamarama
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 10:10am
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80% of the 400,000 new hires into the federal government recently went right to the IRS agency to collect debt, business and personals, well a young kid pops in, looked to be salesman type and flips the badge, fresh from Iraq, fcn IRS agent, with a file, he knew more about me than i do. needless to say he left with a check.
after i cool down, maybe its a good thing?????? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 10:18am
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Once again Eric, It must make you proud of your President. He is hunting you down for every last penny so he can pay someone else to stay home. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 10:27am
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my buddy is going on a year and a half of unemployment, they keep fcn extending the bennies ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 10:28am
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btw, it was all the tax shelters Bush created lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 11:10am
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Wait 'till the rest of what he's been up to comes into play... ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 11:37am
What? more vacations.So sick and tired of hearing him blah, blah, blah, it's Bush's fault. Blah, blah,blah, 2 years ago we inhereted Bush's problems and because of the previous administration, blah, blah,blah. Get off your lazy vacationing A$$ and "YES! We Can" BS you laid on the American people and do something for crying out loud. You've been in office for almost 2 years so do something instead of blaming a previous Prez. policies for your laziness. "Is it too late to vote for the White Guy?" ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
BuffaloBFN wrote:Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 12:23pm
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Why is it Pelosi and Reid never get blamed? Seems to me when they came into power (during GW's term) is when everything went downhill.
it is almost a year now that Ted Kennedy has been sober. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 2:16pm
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The FairTax keeps looking better; so much so that a few politicians have been elected on their intent to pursue it. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 2:49pm
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In an effort to try to maintain a sense of humor about the obamazaster, I go http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?board=5.0 - here (Pookies Toons) every morning. Its always good for a few laughs. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 3:51pm
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Larry, Not to hijack but I notice your from the Cape. Any campground reccomendations for your neck of the woods? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 4:24pm
Kevin, Sent you an email via your site email address. \ I am probably getting together on the pond tonight with another CCF visiting down here this week....come on down. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-11-2010 at 8:53pm
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Eric, are you sure that guy was legit? That sort of thing is done by appt around here. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-12-2010 at 10:20am
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oh yeah, as i said add 300,000 to the IRS workforce, I dont think they need an appointment ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-27-2010 at 11:08am
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OK, so our fearless leader and employer of so many tax agents gathered his entourage and best golf hunting gear and went forth into the uncharted wilderness of Martha's Vinyard...to locate shrimp.
Meanwhile... Putin goes out on the open ocean in a rubber boat and bags a whale. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: August-27-2010 at 11:34am
Ahhhhh, come on Greg you know the guy needs a vacation cause he's worked so hard at rebuilding what BaBushka and Chenski destroyed. Didn't he promise during his campaign that he wouldn't rest till the problems were fixed? He's been a very busy brotha and deserves VAC #6!  ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: August-27-2010 at 12:13pm
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Eric, your shop is in the crosshairs! You are not big business, so you do not qualify for any exemptions when the Bush tax cuts go away. The IRS hit you now because in 8 months, its going to be tougher for them to get "their" money (that you sweated and busted your knuckles over). Who will it go to? The needy citizens who are most likely to vote. The IRS just took vote money from you. The current mantra from the white house spin machine is "D" for Drive (forward) is D for Democrat, and "R" is for Reverse is for Republican. You, as a transmission specialist could probably comment on that. It seems to me that the forward planetary gears are srripped and warped so as to continue in drive is going to cause the gears to come through the case disabling the car in the middle of a socialist desert. The reverse gears are working fine and we are not so far into the socialist desert that we can't back up to Eric's shop, have his small business fix the problem, pay him his fair wage, and then reroute to stay out of the socialist desert, and take the route that is less flat, but has more reward. Thats just me. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: August-27-2010 at 11:44pm
 ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: August-28-2010 at 12:17am
That would be much more "fly" for Obama with tassles in the handle bars and a "Powerpuff Girls" basket on the front. Ring Ring....................Ring Ring..... ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: August-28-2010 at 12:55am
Surprised it does not have training wheels! 
Who wears tennis shoes to the beach anyway??? ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-28-2010 at 10:46am
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im just glad i could feed another fatherless black child, I sent another check yesterday and i am current again.....the cycle begins all over ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: August-28-2010 at 9:11pm
Eric, They got your number now! 
They'll be back for another shakedown in April. ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-29-2010 at 11:50am
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cash is still king!!!!! ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: August-29-2010 at 12:02pm
Notice he is riding a girls bicycle. may not mean anything, but you never know ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: August-29-2010 at 3:05pm
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Screw it! Spend the tax payers money is his motto. Let's go on a 20 million dollar trip and take whoever to Spain.
Yea one of my drinking buddies is loving Obama extensions on unemployment. Been on it for almost a yr and a 1/2. Where is the money coming from? huh I wonder...  ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: August-29-2010 at 3:31pm
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All I can say is that I can't WAIT for November to start purging this radical bunch from office and get some fiscally responsible conservatives behind the wheel. If NObama and his gang have done anything good, it is to show us all what liberalism and socialism really are and what destructive forces they are to this great country. They'd have us all on the government cheese if they could.
If I have to listen to Joe Biden go out one more time and tell us how good things are, and how the Porkulus plan "created or saved" 3,000,000 jobs, I am going to be ill  I think the new line is now "lives touched". Who they crappin'?
Happy "Summer of Recovery" everybody!! 
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Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: August-29-2010 at 5:46pm
Me neither David... Well said sir!   ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: September-07-2010 at 2:56pm
Eric this made me smile, your tax money is in good hands.
 ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2010 at 3:20pm
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plans on another 50 billion spending spree...they didnt build Rome in a day
good one UK, his name is fittybillycent ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-07-2010 at 5:05pm
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He is the biggest joke I have ever seen!! Spend it, lets right another check...
Eric I hope you vote the other direction in Novemeber ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2010 at 6:15pm
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I dont know where i feel more violated, the snipe hunt for weapons of mass destrution or "the change" i wont vote from here on out
once again, Bin laden said it word for word...my work is done, i dragged the dumbest one of the boys into this and made the country go broke...and im saddened that Obama became President because Mcain is on the same brainwave as Bush...Is Iraq a better place???who fcn cares I'll never vacation there ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2010 at 6:23pm
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and for the future, I never once believed the bullsht Bush was giving us about the wmd's in Iraq or ties to Al Qaeda...Sadaam kills his own people? do some reading on the tribes over in Africa,...thats the reason I voted the other way ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 1:16am
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Eric, I would say "The Change" should set you off worse. I know that "Bush lied people died" was a convienient bumper sticker quote, but there is no doubt that 30,000 plus kurds died from Saddam's WMD. He DID kill thousands of his own people with WMD, that is why all the intel agencies agreed that Iraqi Freedom would be an easy prosecution. It is baffling that so little were found. Perhaps the Russians or Syrians harbored them?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction Think of that. Saddam killed tens of thousands of people with WMD. There is no doubt of it whatsoever. Did you ever hear the press make that case? No, because they are liberal information whores that control "the message". They said "Bush lied people died". If you are president of the US and you have information that a guy like Saddam has a WMD program and that Al Qaida is looking for WMD and Saddam is thumbing his nose at UN inspectors, what do you do to protect America from a possible WMD attack like occoured with the 30,000 plus dead Kurds. Its not a bumpersticker world. The world is finding that out with bumper sticker a$$ clowns like Obama selling Hope and Change with out any rhyme or reason. At least Bush was trying to tackle a clear and present danger. Obama is trying to turn a Republic into a Socialist/Communist world of Bill Ayers, Jerimiah Wright and Saul Alinsky. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 10:20am
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you better call Pastor Jones.
Serbs? Croatia? even Turkey, Africa, are we just an audience on the killings over there. it ain't about the killings BTW, the chemicals Sadaam used were supplied by Dow chemical, an American company ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 10:23am
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9 years at 15 to 20 billion a month on terror, and some knucklehead is going to burn a Koran....make that your cause. in other countries one would not even think twice of waisting a bullet ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 12:13pm
Eric, We are boat guys. We do not need to snipe at each other. It sounds like you are at the "you better call Pastor Jones" stage of this conversation where we need to throw zingers at each other and I am not playing. If you want conversation, fine, but lumping me in with Pastor Jones is over the line. Remember, there are those of us who have a different perspective because we were over there when the events took place, and we have the scars and memories to prove it. You mention the Serbs, Croatia and Turkey and Africa. To my knowledge, as bad as those murders and genocides were, they were not using chemical weapons that could be turned over to Al Quaeda. Saddam had a history of that. The intel reports showed Iraqi contacts with Al Quaeda even though "after the fact" political fact finding reports downplayed those contacts, Bush is only a man, a human, and had to make a decision on whether he could allow a loose cannon like Saddam (who HAD killed tens of thousands of people with WMD)the ability to run loose in defiance of the only monitering agency (the UN) when we did not know where the next attack would come from. Dow Chemical: In the 70's and 80's I know you remember something called the Cold War. The Soviets were attempting to gain real estate (as in whole countries) by the sword. The US was in a real dilema. We do not spread Democracy through the sword, but how do you stop Soviet gains? Do we sit around and watch communism spread and consolidate to the point that it is unstoppable and THEN we succumb? Or do we play spy vs spy and make covert deals with nations on the edge like Iraq? I don't know--again I am just a man--an old man at that! But we were in a detestable situation of trying to thwart communism because there is no doubt that the goal of Soviet and Chinese communism was to spread itself through any means. That equates to no ski boats for us (the simple working man) only for the political chosen. Yes, we made deals with Saddam during the cold war. The reason for that was that the Soviets had the very best WMD capability at the time. I have spent more time drilling in chemical suits than I want to admit to because of that threat. The Soviets were parading that threat. Any country that sided with us during the cold war was aware of that threat and asked for a deterrent from the US. We allowed Dow to sell the chemicals because it was part of the Soviet threat and the Iraqi deterrent was to have them as well. It helped the US to have an allied nation be part of the deterrence. That allowed most Americans to go to school, college, go out in the business world mostly unaware of the Soviet threat. We had TVs, then VCRs, computers, cars, Burger King, dvds, CDs (and...world class ski boats!-CC's success was based on Cold War prosperity! While all this was going on, the boats we now revere were manufactured for leisure time provided by those back door deals!)etc, etc, while those under communist rule waited in line for 3 hours to get government bread. The point is, you can not listen to "Bush lied people died" without knowing what was on the table. If you were president, what would you do? How would you like to have taken "the peaceful"(think Nevil Chamberlain) route, and then have a WMD attack on NYC? Or hometown Ohio? Is it at least in the bounds of reasonableness to concede that Bush had every reason to believe there were WMD in Iraq based on their past? I mean looking past all the leftist and conservative rhetoric on the matter, is it not concievable that Bush made his decision based on the information at hand and was not a lie? I ask all this in the utmost respect and if you need to answer by comparing me to Pastor Jones, save your breath. I have pulled too many bodies out of to many $hitholes around the world to be compared to that. Tom ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 12:24pm
Can you clarify that? I am not sure what you are asking. I do not agree with the Koran burning. The cost of the war in Iraq has been dwarfed by President Obama's "stimulus". The war was an attempt to have a chance of peace in the mid east (yeah, I know--fat chance) The Obama stimulus is designed to stimulate the economy by taking your money and giving it to likely democrat voters in hopes that they will spend it and spur the economy. That was supposed to keep the dem base happy and get dollars in circulation. Sadly the money went to China in the form of bling objects like large screen tv's and shiney rims for cars. The point being that Obama spent in less than 2 years MORE than what the entire Iraq operation cost. Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 12:48pm
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"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens".
~ Ben Stein ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 1:52pm
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Eric,
He plannining to spend another 50 billion dollars again on reform of ecnomy boost. Which we all know, his type ecnomy boosts do not work like Bush's did, and he spends, spends,spends, and fuking spends some more. Tax payers are feed up with the debt! Demo-Rats are even with the repbulicans for appealing this government health care thing. His approval rating is below 38%, which means, no more communist change!!! Yyyyeeeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww!!!!! ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-08-2010 at 1:53pm
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I wish Glenn Beck would run for President, cause that speech he put out in D.C over Labor Day was right in tune where the country is from, and where it needs to go. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 10:32am
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needles to say, i got fckin stuck in the Obama caravan on the freeway yesterday, he was in Cleveland, i was on a timeline.
it seems as if the 2 sided government thing isnt working out, as you can see by these discussions the dividing it creates. being a President is a stalemate game....Sea, I like the dictatorship idea, not on the evil side though lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 10:40pm
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2 sided works ok. Right now its one sided and screwed up, but the other shoe is gonna drop in November. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-11-2010 at 11:38am
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OMH, you never back the clock up, you have to spend money to keep the ball rolling..im not saying Obama, Obama, Obama, he was dropped into a deep deficit with nothing to work with...
in laymans terms he went into a 1,000,000 sq ft warehouse that was empty that once thrived with sellable products and the previous owner left him with all the bills in which he too is responsible for the debt that came with the warehouse. they didnt erase the chalkboard. they are doing the roads in front of my shop under the re-investment act, the guy came in to use the bathroom and we got chatting, he hadnt worked for 6 months previous because there was no work, it was saturday and prevailing wages...he was clocking 46.00 an hour flagging cars...people look at that as an 8.00 an hour job. I dont, this guy will take his 1500.00 a week, buy a car (hopefully american) buy a computer, get his wife a new necklace, put some money away for the kids college fund, dump some money into his 401...it turns into a big olive branch and spending is imperative to make an economy thrive..... the money has to come from somewhere....as the economy grows so does the stock market and investments and the patback can begin....thats why you have to spend within the walls and quit supplying them fckn towels with healthcare, rebuild they're housing, set up they're government. get the f out of those countries and start spending the money here. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-11-2010 at 11:34pm
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Eric, I could not disagree more with your analogy, when our founding founders gave us a country based on limited government,individual rights and freedoms they built a "warehouse" stock full of hardworking innovating individuals like you and I. We became the most prosperous nation in the world and its only super power in just two hundered years, something that had never been done before or since. I take offense to here someone say it is now empty. The only thing that changes is who runs the warehouse and what policys they follow. Some choose to reward those that produce and others like our current administration claim social justice and take from the producers and give it to those who do nothing. When we reward the producers we get so much wealth creation that everyone prospers. We get the richest poor in the world. They own cell phones and flat screens and instead of starving their biggest health problem is obesity. You can argue who deserves what all day long but the fact is when you punish those who produce it brings eveyone down. Currently unemployment is highest amoung minorities, where is thier justice? When did the economy really turn? look at october of 08, if my memory is correct unemployment was just over 6% and the stock market well over 10,000. Then fears of a Obama / biden victory took hold, and that is when it switched from bushes to Obamas economy. Bush yerly deficit was to high but Obama quadroppled it, let me say that again Obama quadroppled it. Obama did it. Then everyone with money started hoarding it. Stimulus packages were passed against public opinion and we all know we have to pay for them. Health care was rammed down our throats with the same impact. Obama and Biden had the farthest left voting records in the senate. THEY ARE RADICALS. We would be so far ahaed with McCain, but he is to far left for me. The ball you speak of is on a hill. it will always roll. You do not have to spend to make it move, just dont put road blocks in front of it. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 11:45am
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I really really think the predatory lending started the ball rolling and killed the economy, banks were handing out money to anyone, in a way i blame it on government because of de-regulation but again in the end its the banks responsibility to pick and choose...there sure the hell do it now, try to get some cash...you need to be up in the 800's to even think about getting a car. oct 08 is when the phone stopped ringing but i dont attribute it to the new administration.
someone high up the food chain at CEO level knew what the outcome would be of lending 300k to someone that made 30k a year..Ive got many loans and i went thru hoops to get them in early 2000, they still have my nuts locked up in a safe somewhere, alot of these banks are covered by FDIC and i think the guidelines were not tight enough on its use. we all work for somebody and most of the time you go by company policy at any level and if you wrote a loan it had to go past underwriters and upper management...what were there thoughts? you give someone a million bucks and know there is no way they can pay it back, you bundle all these bad loans up and sell them as investments under the premise of a gain, and thats when the market crashed under these bundle up loans and among other things...we all know, I hope we all know who controls the banks and its a country under our protection (not the Saudi's btw, we protect them to keep our gas at 2.65 a gallon, we create conflicts to justify going into other countries as part of our alliances or pacts we make with them, did you ever wonder why the europeons pay 8.00 a gallon and they are one hell of alot closer to the oil than we are. Saudi Arabia is a little blip on the map, so is Kuwait and thats exactly what started the conflicts in 01, Saddam was looking to control that oil, just like a game of risk. One man cant make a decision such as a Bush or an Obama. they are merely face pieces that tell you what you want to hear, and the special interest groups have the power to control. im fed up with politics, its a disgrace, the entire system is ran by the allmighty greedy dollar, I call it inside trading on both sides....just like Martha who still should be in jail. All these contracts go to Haliburton with Cheney on the board but again somehow the Pelossi's and Franks have 10000 shares of that stock, alot of influence can be swayed by the decisions they make, its a closed tight circle of friends and they are the ones getting rich, while we the middleclass keep getting squeezed and dissolved...and no matter who you vote for the plan is in place. this stuff just doesnt start happening ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 6:13pm
Boy the mentality.... If you stand in the mirror, I always wonder what some people see. Never themselves, damb losers...  ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 8:47pm
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Lee, we have discussed not calling our lesser informed friends names. be nice.
Eric, You frustrate the crap out of me. We have a nice discussion about the topic of this thread, but you deffer the subject by blaming bush (again). I give you a solid argument as to why this economy is in fact directly related to the efforts of Obama Polosie and Reid, which I must have been effective at because you did not refute it. Instead it is suddenly due to preditory lending,Saudie Arabia, Cheney and Haliburten, all with no factual statments to back it up. This is the typical liberal go to list when they want to blame someone for their own misguided efforts. Now I have to give the facts to refute this, and you will probably move on to the NRA, Wallstreet and Right wing hate mongers and conspirators. Lets start with the housing bubble. Predatory leanding as you on the left have labeled it is a symptom, of a government created problem.First, buyer beware. I have seen the paperwork involved in closing a loan and no one got one without signing that they were told of all the conditions. Buyers were stupid as much as lenders were preditors. I consider anyone trying to sell me something a preditor. That is thier job. Next, Mortgage brokers can not sell bad loans in a normal buisness environmnet because no one would buy them. they were influenced by the banks willingness to take them on. The banks were willing to buy these risky loans because the government was willing to insure them and buy them up mthrough Freddie and Fannie. Imagine being able to fix trannys with no concern for quality because the government would just pay you to fix them again. No risk,leads quikly to poor ethics. Now who has thier dirty little hands in Freddie and fannie? chris dodd, and barney frank to name a few. I remember the red lining hearings during the clointon administration where banks were berated in front of congress for not making bad loans(Or for not being predatory lenders in current terminology) Anyway we could have easily surviverd and passed by this crisis if Obama had not prolonged it by trying to prop things up again with the same policies that got us into this in the first place. Oil prices are on the free market, Europes high prices are the effect of continually raising taxes on the product to raise revenue and promote social engineering. Halliburten and Cheney I will save for another day but their percentage of our national budget is not enoughto effect this conversation. Infact all of our military spending is under 10% of the budget if my memory is correct. Entitlment spending is about 65%. Lets put our efforts where they can do the most good. Do you Know what our longest lasting war has been? The war on poverty, and percentages have changed little since the 60's, lets pull our troops and funding out of that one. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 9:14pm
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I am just going to sit here, drink a cold one, and watch some football...
My comment is directed at people who blame "Bush"!! Never the less, some of this economy downfall comes from Mr. Bill Clinton who started the downfall, not Bush Jr. or Sr. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 9:49pm
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Informed resposes suck...
Our elected politicians are selling our freedoms for their next term...to those who don't have a dog in the hunt. When the percentage of Americans who don't pay taxes breaks 50%... ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: September-12-2010 at 10:15pm
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There is no way that 50% of Americans are net positive tax payers now.
------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 10:34am
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you guys work the double standard angle to the end, here im saying its not Obama but on the other side of the coin you guys are saying its not Bush. My biggest problem with Bush was going into Iraq,
if by chance, that lending is still de-regulated, why are the banks locked up tight now? and why is it not business as usual? believe me I loved Bushes tax cuts, But, that dont pay the bills. I think what it boils down to is the 2 main party system, it just fcn dont work, not in this world, it divides and maybe terms arnt long enough, you get the ball rolling and bam...start all over again. A politician can go 2 ways, into politics or selling used cars (no pun) I guess in a way im just fed up with the entire system, I dont like being a pawn on a chessboard and deals cut in back rooms over a hand shake, lobbyists...i wont even go there, special interest groups, not there either..I will probably vote in the middle in 2 years cause really I cant take either side anymore. this still is a fact, the best times in my life that I will never see again were in the 90's, why i dont know, but finacially they were good times and from about 2002 till present they have been 60 hour weeks for the same money and...what more can I say, I think most will agree ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 12:35pm
Seriously, you don't know? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 1:07pm
The sad part about Bush going to Iraq was not finding the WMD's. If we had found some (even if we brought some to find) he would have been the great American hero. Maybe they are still there, maybe it was bad info that led us there, maybe we'll never know. Bush did send me a check for $300. No other polition ever sent me nutin. As for your best times ending around 2002... that's about the same time democrats started running both houses. Bush & Obama both get their share of credits and blames but it is Congress and the Senate that really F'd things up. Both parties are to blame. The thing is Dems promised BIG changes this time and had the votes but still didn't produce any great results. And the courts taking every law a group don't like and overturning them is ripping apart at the basic structure we have spent years living by. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 1:31pm
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Greg of course i know, fool me once....this time I would take the money and run lol
you gotta love the new Geico commercial, Abe Lincoln is the back ground and Mrs. Lincoln asks if she looks fat in the dress....he pondered, and gave her the truthful answer ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 5:32pm
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It's always colorful over here...
What do you guys make of this? http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/apr/16/income-tax-burden-near-its-all-time-low/ |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 8:02pm
Did you watch at all some of the horrific *************** that happened on 9/11 on the history channel. They played back the orginal calls from the planes with the highjackers, showed callers calling from the floors on the twin towers, they where burning and no way out. And we had no reason to go to Irag. Well aint that some *************** Eric. Then what where we suppose to do, stick a finger in our ass and send them a pot roast. Bush did what was needed. You attack America, we fight back with vengance. Other countries want what we got. FREEDOM! FUK-EM! Lovee Bush, sent a tear to my eye  when he showed true American pride and said "We will be at War with the terriosts and Irag to find who had done this act"!! Go get em Bush! Do what ever it takes. You got one American on your side...
It is amazing, and just so sad what those people went through. Some people just dont remember. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-13-2010 at 11:21pm
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Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with the towers,15 of the 19 were Saudi's, nobody gave a *************** in 93 when they tried to knock them down, you need to go down to the VA hospital and go and talk with some of those legless boys, blind boys, armless boys, freedom fighters, I dont think so...they sure do tell a different story. and to think they were starting to close down all the VA hospitals because all the HEROES of WWII were dying off, they cant put up the VA'S fast enough now.
I prayed for those people on 9/11, but i also put out the prayers for the other 5000 since and we are no closer to a resolution then we were 10 years ago. the day that happened, Bin Laden was a household name by the end of the day, thats who shouldve been chased and hunted down, 10 years later they are stronger than ever and will continue to create "terror". If you cut off the head, the legs and arms will go everywhere thats why you want him at this point to die a natural death ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 12:46am
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Eric, Iraq had WMD, true or false. If you claim false, how do you explain this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction Those are UN statistics. Saddam had WMD. Where did they go? Al Quaeda had everything to do with 9-11 and Al Quaeda was in contact with Iraq over WMD. Al Quaeda is who trained the Saudis and they considered themselves Muslims before any country tie. Saddam was a loose cannon not living up to UN resolutions reguarding WMDs and as president, Bush was concerned about this clear and present enemy and danger to the US possessing WMD. That was the intelligence and that is the connection to Iraq and 9 11. No one lied, that was the best intel of the time. I know you are concerned about our young men and that is admirable, but I do not get the same story from the troops when I visit with them, they are pissed at Obama for leaving them hanging out to dry with politics. You seem to want to blame the banks for the downfall of the economy. Do you understand what GSE's are? As a businessman, you should do some research there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-sponsored_enterprise This program, going back to 1916. This was a model democrat, old Woodrow Wilson who interjected government into the private business of banking to buy votes. By the time we got to modern history, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had set up the system so the core Democrat voters would get financing from banks under Fannie May and Freddy Mac or banks would be punished for discrimination. Government should never have interjected itself here and the results were predictable. That is why there is no money out there right now. Anyone with money is holding it, because they do not know how Obama is going to try and get it next to support crack babys. Look, on the war on terror, it is not going away. The Islamists are out to destroy western civilization, and the "moderate" muslims are just playing the middle. They will attach themselves to whoever wins. We either bring the fight to them and at least attempt to make a foothold of freedom in their country that might spread, or we sit at home sweeping up bomb blasts and crashed airplanes. If the American people are not on board with bringing the fight to the enemy, we should not be there. If this was a mistake, then it was Bush's mistake. I think he really felt that we needed to make an attempt in A'stan and in Iraq. If it was a screw up, it was a screw up out of concern for America's security. Obama only cares about bring socialism here as quickly as possible. He wants you to shut up and color, and you need to bring the fruits of YOUR labor to him so he can "spread the wealth" not to who you designate, but to who will elect him next time. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 1:04am
What do I think of an article that is one and a half years old that is in the middle of the Bush tax cuts and Charles Rangel's 50% of the nation THAT PAYS NO TAX??? Why, I think its out of date and never mentions that the Democrat controlled house and senate makes sure that working class middle America needs to pay taxes for Democrat voters! Just be quiet and pay your mortage while your neighbors default twice on your dime. Sweet. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 10:15am
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Obviously we have 2 different views creating the same thing that is happening in our government,
Taxes are a part of life, it built this country, your 401 paid everyone's mortgage, we carpet bombed Iraq for 24 hours a day 7 days a week (imprecisely), you really don't hear about the innocents, the children not fogged with terrorists thoughts....we go in, supply them with better medical than most here in this country have, rebuild them, we both know we weren't' chasing WMDs, Im for taking out a country, but for the right reason. people create hate to justify a situation and to relieve your soul of wrong doings. were there, we've occupied and now what? BTW, North Korea does have WMD, and the means to transport them into this country....the problem with this situation is if you cross over they re border, they do have them and will use them....but if you ain't got em....you cant use em...pretty ironic ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 10:21am
Maybe we need to remind these countries that we have them and know how to use them. Instead of promising we will play nice. Send them a picture of their country on a map, accompanied by a picture of the same map without their country. How the world will lokk in 48 hrs. Your choice. Your answer is? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 11:01am
Eric, With all due respect for the work you do on our transmissions, and the nice guy I know you are, do you have any proof about carpet bombing Iraq 24 hours a day? I am sure that never happened. North Korea does have WMD and the means to deliver them. They are on notice due to our action in Iraq and A'stan that we will take them out in a heartbeat. They understand the technology gap. There is a lot of "darkworld" things going on vs. Korea due to the insane nature of their closed society that are not known. Also, China throws a large shadow on N Korea. Things in real life are never a one for one. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 7:38pm
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Pookie's Toons rock; thanks Larry!
"Will stuffed animals solve all your problems...not if you have a broken transmission" Greg Gutfeld Don't forget to set your DVR for Red Eye on Fox News! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 89Ski_Nautique
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 7:57pm
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Gang,
This is interesting article on Obama printed in Forbes magazine last week. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html?partner=daily_newsletter - How Obama Thinks Randy ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4577&sort=&pagenum=1 - 1989 Ski Nautique Former Boats: 1988 Dominique 1993 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 8:27pm
Great Stuff Randy...
"The Silver Tongue Devil" is what I call him.. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 9:22pm
Eric The banks like the rest of the buisness world do not like uncertainty and the current regime has created more uncertainty than any other I can remember. Banks are currently able to borrow money at 0% and they are. They are then re-investing in bonds and other guarenteed inveastments. They may only return a few percent but they will not loose and the banks are comfortable with that until they see the effects of sunseting the tax cuts for the rich, Obamacare, the possibility of a double dip recession and deficit spending. I cannot blame them. When you hear about buisnesses hording money this is what they are talking about. Companies are choosing to pay overtime or forgo expanding for the same reason. No one knows what an employee will cost in terms of taxes and benefits two years from now. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 10:19pm
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Interesting article. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 11:26pm
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And what about the MOSQUE? Another scar he has put on this great country. Bush would have told them to build some place else. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 11:30pm
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http://www.zazzle.com/anti+obama+bumperstickers - Bumper stickers for your veiwing pleasure. There are some good ones
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-14-2010 at 11:33pm
I got 2 on order... ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 10:17am
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i gotta love the food stamp one, im not here promoting anything Obama has to offer, I was forced to vote for the guy and stating facts, I thought i would never see a black president, he is in there for one reason....the other choice, there wasnt one, or really I was fed up with those boys
I have a feeling if I said the sky is blue, you guys would come back and try to convince me it was yellow. I have lost complete faith in the political system ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 11:12am
Lemme guess, your house got caught in the wind and that loose gutter snagged the lever?!!? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 11:29am
Eric, Go back and read what some of us were trying to tell you before the election. We were dead on about this guy. We told you the sky was blue but you were so against Bush that you desperatly wanted to believe the sky was yellow. There was a choice. I voted for the least of two weasles. You, your friends and the media fell for the empty hope and change promises and completely ignored this guys radical agenda and background. You should be disolussioned. You were douped and blind and we are all suffering because of it. Someone elso posted a quote here from a foriegn source that said something similar to: America can survive Obamas term but might not survive a voter base that is so ignorant that they would elect him. Being dissolusioned usually means you need to open you eyes a little more because you failed to see things properly in the first place. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-16-2010 at 10:25am
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OMH, if Mike tyson ran on the democratic ticket he would of got my vote,
Radical? you shove Bush mentality under the rug, his demeaner has cost 5000 lives already for no reason at all....plus a couple hundred thousand Iraqi lives...his decision to go into Iraq was a personal decision to appease a vendetta....he conned the American people to justify it, he too looked you straight in the eyes and lied to you, same as being duped... he would make a great dictator, thank God we are not under that type of government....im sure the bombs wouldve flown by now if he was ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-16-2010 at 2:22pm
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Boys I sure do like what is happening with Delware up there. Tea Party movement is really working on the repbulican party. Some great conservatives running in Novemeber. I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-16-2010 at 7:42pm
Yea, I will never forget old whats her name. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-16-2010 at 8:06pm
Your Tyson comment proves my point. You would have taken anyone over Bush without any regard to thier political stance. It is like being sick of a cold and opting for cancer instead. And by the way. HE WAS NOT RUNNING. I know you have particularly strong antiwar feelings. I am much more concerned with economic policy, but I will argue the "no reason at all" comment. 9 months into W's presidency 3000 civilians died and two buildings were leveled. Their was not a military target or personel at that site so I dont take much concern with collateral damage that we might inflict. I am not the one to say how best to fight alquida. They are not a country, you have to pick where you are going to go after them, and then they surround themselves with civilians, some co-conspirators and others innocent. I do know that we had to do something. Kevin costners character in dancing with wolves after being raided by the indians said "I have become a target and a target does not make a good impression" In my personal experience I had a bully who in junior high would stick his grubby little fingers in my food and then ask "are you going to eat this" Of course the answer would be "not any more". This went on for way to long with me doing nothing out of fear and the problem getting worse. Finally one day his arm snuck under mine to steal a french frie off my plate. I traped his arm with mine and with my free hand I picked up a fork and drove it into the back of his french frie stealing hand. I took one last back blow for my effort but the problem ended. By the way, by voting in this socialist how has anything changed? He has followed bushes plans with very little change. The surge that Obama said could not work, was just proclaimed a success by...Obama, and he has escalated the war which he calls just in Afganistan. And where are all the antiwar protesters. I would say thier activites decreased by about 90% the day Obama was elected. Your heart may be true, but this shows me that 90% are hypocritcal polotically motivated hacks, or they would be out on the street corners every week like they were in 08. I do not feel I was lied to by Bush except when he called himself a fiscal conservative. If you are talking about WMD's we know they were there because Sadam used them on the Kurds. The toothless UN inspectors were delayed wherever they went offering plenty of opportunity for things to have been moved. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 3:11am
Christine O'Donnell.. Great women, awsome views. Shawn Hannity the man, interviewed her the other night. She spoke of the US Constitution and how the it is the country's backbone and what I stand for. She has got my vote. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 3:21am
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Eric,
If I would have been President during 9/11, I would have either attacked in one way. PUSH THE BUTTON!! But I know some other countries could start shooting so you got to watch. But to me, screw it push the button and drink that oil rag head. Far as you worried about lives being wasted, people want to die for this country. It is a choice, freedom that we have. Go to Washington at look at the statues in the Monument of those people. It is amazing the people that died for this country because it is so great to live in. We dont need any beurocrats running our country. Most, not all, but most of democrats all have similar polcies and views. Higher taxes, against cap and trade, goverment reform, weak boarders, against war(which makes you a wossie country, and we are not a wossie country, flex your muscles), redistrubute wealth, and of course then also things christians and alot of other relgions are against. Gay marriage, abortion etc. I did not see anything interesting to me in there. Leave Bush alone, he did a good job, I SURE WISH I HAD HIM BACK!! ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 10:18am
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did you guys ever consider with the intelligence at the time, we know of at least 20 were involved....19 in the planes and Osama himself, and lets face it to plan something like that another 50 or so had to be involved........that there was not one leak, or even these knuckleheads told them down in Florida we just want to learn how to fly a plane and not land one......maybe just maybe, we knew this was going to happen?
answer yes or no. was it possible that we knew this was going to happen?, after all they tried and didnt succeed in 93 to knock those buildings down and failed. anyone can answer the question, I hate to say this and I know it was collateral damage and innocent lives were lost. It was tried in 93 during Clinton, but Clinton sent in guided missiles right into Al Qaeda camps, no troops on the ground and was told to back off killing Bin Laden because of Saudi ties. now Bin Laden waited for Bush to get into office because the results would be an all out ground war, they hit the finacial center crippling it and This guy aint no dummy knowing Bushes personality, Osama's goal was to drag us into Af-stan and break the country financially. If someone can convince me that the US government knew nothing at all about 9-11, I'll listen go to work today and tell one person a secret, make one up...see how long the secret takes to get back to you, its human nature to talk eventually. my point, is we knew 9-11 was on the table ski, I'll go to the wall, I'll go to Gettysburg, I'll go to Normandy, weve been a free country for over 200 years last time I checked, its not a freedom fight anymore. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 10:22am
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last time I checked also the country is broke....and thats not because of recent events, you could heat alot of homes if you took that 20 billion a month in cash and burned it in your fireplace...at least you would stay warm,
that kinda cash needs to flow inside these walls on our economy ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 11:06am
Eric, you should stick to the philosophy of foam versus no foam, VD versus PCM, deisel versus gas...  ------------- |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 11:46am
Eric, I will admit an extra 20 billion in savings could not hurt but we are talking about trillions in increases in our national budbet last year. Recent events my friend are of a much greater concern. Current and future events are going to be worse. Want to talk about a bold face lie how about Obamacare is going to save us money and be budget nuetral.What we will get is either rationing huge tax increases, or most likely both. Future bumber sticker "Obama lied and grama died" ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 11:55am
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whew...i just read through this entire thing and I usually stay away from anything that pertains to politics. That said, I agree with Lee. I would have pushed the button the second we saw our buildings going down. This IS about "our Freedom". We still have men and women dieing over there. Bring them home, guard our country and don't try to "fix" theirs. It's religious, they are evil and they cannot be reformed. Mr. Pres. and his crew are doing enough damage at home taking away piece by piece our rights, our money and our decisions - our Freedoms.
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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 11:57am
Eric. The fight never ends. Socilism takes away freedom. The Dems are trying to shut down talk radio and take control of the internet. The muslsims hate our freedom. They complain about the mosque not being tolerated at grund zero siteing religious freedom but behead christians for passing out bibles in their home countries. As soon as we believe the fight is not about freedom our freedom will be gone. That is what the tea party movement is all about, as far as our foriegn wars it is about respect. Guys who behead people do not respect diplomacy. You should never bring a nife to a gun fight. You will lose. Send a diplomat to a gun fight and we all lose. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 12:19pm
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See Eric. We have the voice of sanity on our side. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 12:25pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=KTb6qdPu8JE - We fought for YOU
Here you go Eric. Watch this when you get a minute. |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 12:33pm
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Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-17-2010 at 1:22pm
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Great stuff Michelle! Great stuff.... ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 11:34am
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the best offense is defense, I wouldve never let one of our men or woman step on foriegn soil, I just cant understand why you guys and girls cant see what is going on. the towers fell 9 years ago and A crippled mfer is still of this earth, the man responsible for knocking them down...
Iraq? we got those guys thru good intelligence requiring 1 guided missle to get the 2 boys and a group of 10 men to get the leader. you guys still, still, stilllllllllllllllllllll dodge the question and its for all of you above. be precise. WHAT HAS THE GOVERNMENT ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST 9 YEARS..,..come on dont be afraid to answer ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 11:49am
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Eric, no attacks on our soil.
What do you mean people can't keep a secret? What about JFK, MLK, Roswell and Jimmy Hoffa? ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 11:55am
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i guess you dont consider the effects of an economic attack? commoners like me and you dont need to know the truth about JFK, Roswell, and the Hoffa's
but what I do know its not what one would think ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 12:07pm
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They have influenced us seriously both economically & culturally. But, you got to give credit to the government for no other attacks that have taken lives in the US.
Unless the government was involved in JFK, MLK, Roswell or Hoffa, I don't see why we couldn't handle the truth? Maybe we are run by a secret society? ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 12:29pm
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now your thinking like a true conspirasist.
you gotta billion dollar bank account...you tell the pres what to do. should we consider the import of more heroin than ever a chemical attack??? it does originate in Af-stan, somehow these containers make it past customs.. Bruce, you know i always think outside the box ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 1:14pm
| Bruce, of course I'm interested in what you are saying, but I would really like to hear how Eric would rule our great nation. He voted for our Commander in Chief. What would you do Eric? |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 1:34pm
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precision guided missiles, drones and small sniper teams, then starve the bastards, high tariffs on importing, dissolve NAFTA, invest inside the country, dissolve lobbyist groups, and let one loose up in the mountains just to let them know our capabilities that of course would be with a signed agreement with the former USSR, as a defense mechanism and not an offense, and kept the boys out of the sandbox. I could go on and on and on
Michelle, im to honest to be a politician. I guess the point i always try to put accross is things are not what they appear to be, it just seems like Obama was trying to change the world but hit a big roadblock, A JFK roadblock, he sat down with the boys over a few Cubans and they let him know how things are going to be. one man cant run a country, congress, senate, to polluted with greed and power.... ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 1:47pm
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Chelle, I'm talking trash although it does amaze me that the above secrets have been kept so well, (not including Roswell). Obama was set up for failure by his own people's hype before he was elected. Not that I agree with his positions, but his people laid out such great expectations for him and he made promises that he surely knew he couldn't keep. Now he's paying the price because he's going to come up short, not because of roadblocks people are throwing up. ------------- |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 2:07pm
| Hmmmm, it sounds like someone has been watching the Rambo movies. One person can't and won't "change the world". We all agree on that. Eric, it's a very big history book and all of the pages aren't there. Bruce, I agree. He "was" a very good spokesman. But he needed to have what he was saying backed up and it just isn't happening. It's a frightening world we live in. |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 2:52pm
Ok remember you asked for it. These are just the ones coming to mind at the moment and in no particular order. First they stacked the deck with a Democrate majority. Voted themselves raises Riased the cigarette tax Raised taxes Gave us 2 wars, (you can blame Bush but Congress approved this) Bought Nancy Pelosi a new jet Gave us a healthcare bill that the majority of the country opposes Voted themselves another raise Created new jobs (until the census was taken now those jobs are gone) Spent a ton on a stimulis package that didn't stimulate Bailed out banks (only to make it harder to get a loan) bailed out Chrysler and GM (which only to made Ford stronger) Told us to boycott Arizona Sued Arizona for upholding the law Put the President on TV every single day Voted themselves another raise Made just about everything racist Try making illegals automatic citizens (there still working on this one) Didn't pay taxes (ok only some) Blamed everything on George Bush Gave us entertaining TV - MSNBC & Fox Created the Tea Party (or at least the need for it) Took religion apart (again still trying) Went out of there way not to offend third world countries. Traveled the world with family & friends I'm sure there alot more they did for/ to us but this should get things rolling ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: September-18-2010 at 2:56pm
Kevin,
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-19-2010 at 1:20pm
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not the trivial day to day sht hard, what have we accomplished in Iraq, af-stan, pak-stan ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |