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M3Fan wrote: Riley wrote: There is no constitutional fundamental behind RvW. "According to the Roe decision, most laws against abortion in the United States violated a constitutional right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."

I won't state my opinion as to who should be president, or whether abortion should or should not be legal.

But, I will say that of all the Constitutional opininions I have read, and I have read a lot of them, Roe v. Wade is one of the weakest I have read in terms of Constitutional support for the opinion handed down. It is a creative piece of lawyering and judicial opinion, but it is a real stretch to find constitutional support for the decision.

It is an opinion handed down about a very controversial topic in this country; it is an opinion in which the Supreme Court "reached" at best for a constitutional argument to support its opinion; and that is why it continues to be debated 35 years after that decision.

In 1896, Plessy v. Ferguson declared that separate but equal school systems were supported by the Consitution. It was not until 1954 that Brown v. Board of education overturned that ruling.

Similarly, it would not suprise me at all if some day Roe v. Wade is overturned on grounds that it is not supported by the constitution. That is not to say that abortion could not be legal in this country. It is only to say that given the right mix in the Supreme Court, and the right case put before the Court, the decision could easily be overturned.

BKH

Morfoot wrote: Gee, if a goverment were in place 250 years ago that didn't allow the right to bear arms in the first place then I'd guess we'd all be paying taxes to the queen and we'd all be speaking with a "Heavy" british accent. ...No offense to those across the pond.

This is a huge stretch.

Morfoot wrote: Gee, if a goverment were in place 250 years ago that didn't allow the right to bear arms in the first place then I'd guess we'd all be paying taxes to the queen and we'd all be speaking with a "Heavy" british accent. ...No offense to those across the pond.

I don't believe we need gun control and fire arms for sport and or protection are a right but is there not a little room for control when an 8 year old is allowed to fire an UZI sub machine gun at a gun fair resulting in his death. I just don't understand how this is possible.

eric lavine wrote: the three "e"s, economy, energy, environment...be optimistic, it could turn out to be the best times we will ever have.

Eric, what about GUNS!!!

Seriously though, I feel blue skies are ahead as well.

Gary S wrote: Some day in the distant future when they write "The Rise and Fall of America" the chapter on the fall will be about my generation, the baby boomers.

Sometimes kinda scary ain't it Gary....I feel you are so right.

john

Some day in the distant future when they write "The Rise and Fall of America" the chapter on the fall will be about my generation, the baby boomers.

Ken,

Thanks for fighting for my freedom, just like the guy I am voting for!

Joel,

Perhaps terrorists were responsible for the loss of some rights not Bush directly? Many of those changes were more a result of maintaining national security IMHO.

M3Fan wrote: Because in the grand scheme of things, nobody cares about guns. Think of how much damage the Bush administration did to privacy rights. Also, what underlying constitutional fundamental is behind Roe V. Wade? Who is against it? I'd still vote for him because I realize there is more at stake next Tuesday than my hobby or home defense fantasy.

Living in a fantasy world, under the impression that the government will defend his home so he has no need....I rest my case, lost cause. And to think, I fought in a war to allow these types of thinkers to give away their rights which I fought to defend, go figure. At least we can agree on our favorite boats, for now.    How ironic, I just noticed that he lives in LIBERTYVILLE

Riley wrote: How come no one has asked Obama his opinion on the recent Supreme Court decision stating that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right? Simple question. Why don't the media ask?

Because in the grand scheme of things, nobody cares about guns.

Think of how much damage the Bush administration did to privacy rights. Also, what underlying constitutional fundamental is behind Roe V. Wade? Who is against it?

We've got bigger fish to fry in this country and in the world right now. Personally I'm pro-gun as it's the final check of power between the people and gov't. If shooting is your hobby, that's great. If Obama was against Slalom Skiing then I'd still vote for him because I realize there is more at stake next Tuesday than my hobby or home defense fantasy.

I think it's way cool to hear opinions from around the country, and even overseas, that's in a format where things are simple and staight. Hopefully we don't go too far and get closed!   LOL

I think 1 thing we all agree on is that some things need to change. For starters, I'd say hold politicians to the same standards we are from their health care plans to illegal activity.

Another thing that bugs me is special interest persuasion both in voting AND who we get to choose from in the first place. I was for Huckabee, but I think he was too honest for upper level politics. The machines in place wouldn't stand with him maybe because he wasn't so 'flexible'?

Personally, I'm already challenged enough....I moved off the boat I lived on for 15 years and now I live in a very small house with a living room/bedroom combo, power my lighting and computer by wind and solar power, drive older cars, stopped drinking and smoking long ago, park my cars and boats on the lawn and add no chemicals to keep it growing, heat with wood, and drive as little as possible, watch very little TV (the news is so slanted as to be totally useless)...all so that I can enjoy skiing and hunting. The last thing I need is a TOTALLY anti-gun a**h**e who thinks the Constitution of the United States is poorly written (look up this info),who would prefer to limit or end my basic rights as this is all that remains for me after fifty years of hard work and I have every intention of fighting this crap however legally possible. You may do your part to bring down the Constitution, I'll have no part of it, 'nuff said.... now I'll go take my blood pressure medicine and do something useful, head to the river...oops! it's pouring down rain....never mind maybe tomorrow.

M3Fan wrote: MarineTech wrote: ...our basic way of life will be challenged Yep. We'll be challenged on wasting energy and ruining the environment. We might be asked to contribute a little bit to control energy and worry about the world we live in rather than sitting on our butts watching prime-time TV in over-sized homes, voting for "Idol", dousing our lawns with chemicals, and putting down a 12-pack of Busch Light every night. We might have to learn to "live within our means". We might have to learn that we are not "owed" anything on this earth just because we were born here. A loss of entitlement is just what this country needs on an individual basis IMO.

I can hardly wait to see your tech article on outfitting your Nautique with a sail, or maybe even a little 6 banger like some of our more enviorment conscience members already have.

What scares the heck out of me is that Obama is endorsed by the press and has not had the normal background research or been hammered on about what he has said/done in the past or his current positions.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=6099188&page=1

what goes through my mind a thousand times is red nose bush's arm around McCain's shoulder(the commercial we constantly see) and Bush telling him "business as usual"

everything has doubled in the last 5 years except for the paychecks and that bit right into the bottem line. its been about 8 or so years since i skipped paychecks and i have skipped a few recently. and i call it the trickle down effect cause now I'll have to call my mortgage company and tell them my payment is going to be late. there is no such thing as a savings account anymore...thats gone... equity in your house??? ha ha, try to get a second mortgage
anything has got to be better than what it is now,
these guy's in office and the majority of the party were born with a silver spoon in thier mouths and dont know what its like to know where thier next meal is coming from and thats the difference, they dont give 2 ***************s about me and you.

I should've put a wink after that, but it's not my statement...