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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I guess in my case I will need to use a primer for the bell housing, intake and exhaust manifolds. Keegan what did you use, Duplicolor's self etching primer? |
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Keeganino ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-27-2009 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 2063 |
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I have the same oil leak from the base of the dipstick
![]() Looks like that trailer has a ton of support. The brace you drew looks fine. Probably not much else you could do with that set up. I think being level side to side is more important than front to back so you can tell if your stringers are all going back in level. |
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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WakeSlayer ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2138 |
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I just got an extra 1x6 and will rip them and cut to fit. Ironic that I named my thread the long road ahead, as I have not touched the boat in a year....
Yeah Gary. I lost mine with my wire stretcher. They came as a set. Makes me mad because I actually had the fancy one that also does sheetrock. |
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Mike N
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storm34 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-03-2008 Location: Dexter Iowa Status: Offline Points: 4496 |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Board strecher Mike ? Not needed,If you refoam,the water it holds keeps the wood expanded.No foam, you need to rehydrate the fir like original
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Your right Mike, 2x10's it is. What did you use for the cross bracing? Fir or something cheaper?
Did I miss your post for your SN re-stringing? Haven't seen it. |
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WakeSlayer ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2138 |
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If you get it perfect, you could use 2x8's but they are only 7.5" in the first place. I went with the 2x10's as I had misplaced my board stretcher at the time.
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Mike N
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Are 2x8s tall enough for the mains? Or should I go for 2x10? From my measurements, the highest point is about 7.5 inches, not including the bump up for the gas tank.
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Went to look at the Fir today. The vertical grain looked beautiful. The #2 stuff had several knots, some checks and wanes. Believe I'll go with the vertical grain. About $100 for 2x8x12 and $27 for 1x6x10. Forgot to ask about the moister, i'll check that when I pickup.
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Thanks for the number Kapla.
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kapla ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-27-2008 Location: BA, Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6148 |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Anyone have Eric's email? Eric you around? Need to contact about sending the transmission.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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My oil pan had the same leak.There is some kind of rubber diaphram rivited between that plate and the pan.There is a hole in it and the dipstick tube passes thru it. I ended up cleaning it well and using rtv sealant on it.If I ever have to pull the motor I'm going to install this one I took off a PCM pan,the dipstick tube threads on. And like Mike says,where do you stop with the motor? Since your in there might want to check the oil pump and change to a heavy duty oil pump drive shaft too.And check the teeth on the flywheel.
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Yes, let the fun begin. And the questions....
First, leveling and bracing. Where is the best place to level off of front to back? My main stringers do not appear to have a very flat surface anywhere. The secondaries are pretty good. Will that work? ![]() My trailer was modified by the P.O. so the bunks go all the way to the back. I was going to add some supports where I have marked in the pic. Do I need to support the keel at all? ![]() ![]() ![]() Then there is the question of grinding. I'm grinding away the old glass that held the stringers in right? I'm worried about not knowing when to stop. Guess I'll get a better feel once I start doing it. ![]() Thanks guys. Obviously I can't do it without y'all! |
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WakeSlayer ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2138 |
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The fun begins. I used a citrus based engine cleaner and a couple different scrub brushes. I acetoned after that. Duplicolor should have the right paint.
Already going to start adding to the "while I am in here" list. As long as you have the oil pan off, you may as well do a rear seal. Since you are doing the rear, you may as well do the front one. As long as you are doing that, you may as well do a timing set, etc, etc, etc... For secondaries, you want 1x6. I think I got 12 footers. Just get an extra and rip down for your longitudinals. |
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Mike N
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connorssons ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: January-17-2009 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 1414 |
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Vondy looking good, now the real fun begins. get a full suit when cutting glass, it will save alot of scratching
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Engine is out. Along with pretty much everything else. Now I need to level, brace and get to cutting. Right after a trip to Harbor Freight.
Add this to the Redneck Engine Hoist. ![]() ![]() Muddy oily mess in the bell housing. I'm sure from the flooding it took when the freeze plug popped out last year. ![]() Crack to be welded. ![]() Velvet drive. Needs to go to Eric. ![]() I know these are made to hold engines but it just seems weird having her cantilevered like that. ![]() ![]() Found my slow oil leak. Will have to fix this for sure, can't having my new bilge oily. I'll replace the oil pan gasket as well while it's all out. ![]() ![]() |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I'll do that. Looks like I'll need 2x8x12s for the mains and 1x2x9s for the secondaries. Does that sound right? What do others use for the cross bracing? Fir or something cheaper? I don't have a lot in this boat. ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
Go look at it and if in doubt, report back. The "and better" is really a term open to interpretation!! |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Pete, he said his number 1 stuff was the c & better vertical grain. From the way I typed it, it might have looked like 3 options. He does have number 2 as well. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Bruce, Yes, if at all possible, get it a couple months in advance. Sticker (1x2 spacers) it and put it in a cool spot with good air circulation. I suggested this to Tim along with a fan blowing on it. I believe he did do it. Rotating the wood top to bottom and end to end helps as well. I'm currently doing some green wood bowl turning on that 48 lathe I rebuilt. I've never done the green wood before and it's not fun! The selection of small blocks of unusual woods is fantastic plus real cheap but I don't feel the trouble you go through is worth it. First, you rough turn the blank figuring at least 10% shrinkage. Then you set the blocks to dry for 2 to 3 years!! If you don't have that time, you use the microwave method that I used. I almost started a couple of Beech blanks on fire!! ![]() |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7966 |
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Pete, if it's 13% out of the kiln, how do you get it to 8%? Should it be bought ahead of time and be stored so that it air dries some more?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
Go take a look at it. If the #1 looks nice, is straight and doesn't have a large loose knots in it, it will be cheaper. Don't worry about bad edges as they will be trimmed off when you scrib to the hull. Make sure you ask them about the moisture content. If it's a good yard, they should have a meter. Out of the kiln, you'll see about 13%. 10% is getting there and usable. 8% is great. |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Gave the lumber yard a call today looking for Douglas Fir. I told him I needed the good stuff and he said they have #1, C and better, vertical grain. I'm not that versed in wood grades. Does that sound right to y'all?
I'm also not sure on sizes yet but a 2x8x14 is $113. Pulling to engine tomorrow to officially get started. |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Nothing there at all.Just a matter of unbolting it.
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Is it easy enough to separate the bell housing from the engine and transmission to take it to a welder? No major gaskets or seals to worry about?
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Your right David,it's aluminum.Ask around and get yourself a good welder.We have alot of truck repair places around,since we live in a gravel mining area. Most gravel trailers are aluminum so they have alot of pratice.If you look close you can see the weld in that picture,I didn't even have to clean it up. Must be a common thing for these to crack I'll bet.
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connorssons ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: January-17-2009 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 1414 |
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Hay Vondy! you are correct Alum.
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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That's it Gary.
I seem to recall the bell housing to be aluminum, is that right or am I imagining things? |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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David, you mean in that area right behind the bolts of the sideways clamp mount? This one was cracked on mine.I took it to a good welder and they fixxed me up fine. ![]() |
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