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Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

Make sure when you paint the bell housing you use a self etching primer. That aluminum does not hold paint otherwise


I guess in my case I will need to use a primer for the bell housing, intake and exhaust manifolds. Keegan what did you use, Duplicolor's self etching primer?
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I have the same oil leak from the base of the dipstick Tried sealing it with rtv but it is still leaking. For cleaning the motor I used purple power mostly but also used 3m brake cleaner on some parts which worked really well. The brake cleaner is good for spot cleaning something you are about to paint because it evaporates away quickly. Make sure when you paint the bell housing you use a self etching primer. That aluminum does not hold paint otherwise

Looks like that trailer has a ton of support. The brace you drew looks fine. Probably not much else you could do with that set up. I think being level side to side is more important than front to back so you can tell if your stringers are all going back in level.
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I just got an extra 1x6 and will rip them and cut to fit. Ironic that I named my thread the long road ahead, as I have not touched the boat in a year....

Yeah Gary.   I lost mine with my wire stretcher. They came as a set. Makes me mad because I actually had the fancy one that also does sheetrock.
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Too funny.

Here is mikes thread....the long road ahead
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Board strecher Mike ? Not needed,If you refoam,the water it holds keeps the wood expanded.No foam, you need to rehydrate the fir like original
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Your right Mike, 2x10's it is. What did you use for the cross bracing? Fir or something cheaper?

Did I miss your post for your SN re-stringing? Haven't seen it.
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If you get it perfect, you could use 2x8's but they are only 7.5" in the first place.   I went with the 2x10's as I had misplaced my board stretcher at the time.
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Are 2x8s tall enough for the mains? Or should I go for 2x10? From my measurements, the highest point is about 7.5 inches, not including the bump up for the gas tank.

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Went to look at the Fir today. The vertical grain looked beautiful. The #2 stuff had several knots, some checks and wanes. Believe I'll go with the vertical grain. About $100 for 2x8x12 and $27 for 1x6x10. Forgot to ask about the moister, i'll check that when I pickup.
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Anyone have Eric's email? Eric you around? Need to contact about sending the transmission.

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My oil pan had the same leak.There is some kind of rubber diaphram rivited between that plate and the pan.There is a hole in it and the dipstick tube passes thru it. I ended up cleaning it well and using rtv sealant on it.If I ever have to pull the motor I'm going to install this one I took off a PCM pan,the dipstick tube threads on. And like Mike says,where do you stop with the motor? Since your in there might want to check the oil pump and change to a heavy duty oil pump drive shaft too.And check the teeth on the flywheel.

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Yes, let the fun begin. And the questions....

First, leveling and bracing. Where is the best place to level off of front to back? My main stringers do not appear to have a very flat surface anywhere. The secondaries are pretty good. Will that work?


My trailer was modified by the P.O. so the bunks go all the way to the back. I was going to add some supports where I have marked in the pic. Do I need to support the keel at all?






Then there is the question of grinding. I'm grinding away the old glass that held the stringers in right? I'm worried about not knowing when to stop. Guess I'll get a better feel once I start doing it.



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The fun begins.   I used a citrus based engine cleaner and a couple different scrub brushes. I acetoned after that. Duplicolor should have the right paint.
Already going to start adding to the "while I am in here" list.
As long as you have the oil pan off, you may as well do a rear seal. Since you are doing the rear, you may as well do the front one. As long as you are doing that, you may as well do a timing set, etc, etc, etc...

For secondaries, you want 1x6. I think I got 12 footers. Just get an extra and rip down for your longitudinals.
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Vondy looking good, now the real fun begins. get a full suit when cutting glass, it will save alot of scratching
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Engine is out. Along with pretty much everything else. Now I need to level, brace and get to cutting. Right after a trip to Harbor Freight.

Add this to the Redneck Engine Hoist. Actually it worked great. Not a single creek in the rafters.


Muddy oily mess in the bell housing. I'm sure from the flooding it took when the freeze plug popped out last year.


Crack to be welded.


Velvet drive. Needs to go to Eric.


I know these are made to hold engines but it just seems weird having her cantilevered like that. Planning on repainting, if I can find the right blue. Any hints on cleaning and getting the old stuff off?


Found my slow oil leak. Will have to fix this for sure, can't having my new bilge oily. I'll replace the oil pan gasket as well while it's all out.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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Go look at it and if in doubt, report back. The "and better" is really a term open to interpretation!!


I'll do that.

Looks like I'll need 2x8x12s for the mains and 1x2x9s for the secondaries. Does that sound right? What do others use for the cross bracing? Fir or something cheaper? I don't have a lot in this boat.

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David,
Go look at it and if in doubt, report back. The "and better" is really a term open to interpretation!!


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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Go take a look at it. If the #1 looks nice, is straight and doesn't have a large loose knots in it, it will be cheaper. Don't worry about bad edges as they will be trimmed off when you scrib to the hull. Make sure you ask them about the moisture content. If it's a good yard, they should have a meter. Out of the kiln, you'll see about 13%. 10% is getting there and usable. 8% is great.


Pete, he said his number 1 stuff was the c & better vertical grain. From the way I typed it, it might have looked like 3 options. He does have number 2 as well.
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Pete, if it's 13% out of the kiln, how do you get it to 8%? Should it be bought ahead of time and be stored so that it air dries some more?

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Yes, if at all possible, get it a couple months in advance. Sticker (1x2 spacers) it and put it in a cool spot with good air circulation. I suggested this to Tim along with a fan blowing on it. I believe he did do it. Rotating the wood top to bottom and end to end helps as well.

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Pete, if it's 13% out of the kiln, how do you get it to 8%? Should it be bought ahead of time and be stored so that it air dries some more?
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David,
Go take a look at it. If the #1 looks nice, is straight and doesn't have a large loose knots in it, it will be cheaper. Don't worry about bad edges as they will be trimmed off when you scrib to the hull. Make sure you ask them about the moisture content. If it's a good yard, they should have a meter. Out of the kiln, you'll see about 13%. 10% is getting there and usable. 8% is great.


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Gave the lumber yard a call today looking for Douglas Fir. I told him I needed the good stuff and he said they have #1, C and better, vertical grain. I'm not that versed in wood grades. Does that sound right to y'all?

I'm also not sure on sizes yet but a 2x8x14 is $113.

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Nothing there at all.Just a matter of unbolting it.
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Is it easy enough to separate the bell housing from the engine and transmission to take it to a welder? No major gaskets or seals to worry about?
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Your right David,it's aluminum.Ask around and get yourself a good welder.We have alot of truck repair places around,since we live in a gravel mining area. Most gravel trailers are aluminum so they have alot of pratice.If you look close you can see the weld in that picture,I didn't even have to clean it up. Must be a common thing for these to crack I'll bet.
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Hay Vondy! you are correct Alum.
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That's it Gary.

I seem to recall the bell housing to be aluminum, is that right or am I imagining things?
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Originally posted by vondy vondy wrote:


Any thoughts on the crack in the rear starboard bellhousing mount clamp?


David, you mean in that area right behind the bolts of the sideways clamp mount? This one was cracked on mine.I took it to a good welder and they fixxed me up fine.

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