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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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That's just the Nautolex flooring. Love it. It has a nice grip to it, looks great, color is just right, exactly what we were looking for.
Sandstone color. http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
Look'n great. I especially like the vinyl wall covering for the floor - Yes, keep it ORIGINAL!!! ![]() ![]() |
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Keeganino ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-27-2009 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 2063 |
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Looks great! You will be on the water in no time!
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Here's a few.
![]() Note the cast iron wedge. ![]() ![]() Vinyl Sample ![]() All painted up ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Pretty much at the assembly stage. Have to glass in my gas tank risers and glue the vinyl down. Still have some through-hull hardware to install. |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Pete nothing turns my wife on more than having her tighten the nuts on my strut in 98 degree weather. Then having to rub her down with acetone to get the 5200 off her hands. Let me tell you, she's in love.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I sure hope you're taking time out to get laid!! ![]() |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I'll get some pics up soon, I'm pretty much working nonstop on the thing so hard to get pics uploaded. And work is busy so can't do it up there either. Should have some up tomorrow.
Thanks for the info guys, I figured it would surely be cured by 5 days. |
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Keeganino ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-27-2009 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 2063 |
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We need some new pics! Got to be exciting putting it back together!
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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3M™ Marine Adhesive Sealant 5200 This high-performance polyurethane adhesive sealant becomes tack-free in 24-48 hours, and completely cures in 5-7 days with no shrinking. Al, Please don't tell me you use silicone!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Al, It's 7 days! You don't have some around to look at the instructions? ![]() |
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DrCC ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: April-12-2004 Location: at home Status: Offline Points: 2890 |
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7 days? You sure it's not 72 hours?
3 days, you should be good to go. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
You'll be fine. The 7 days is for a full cure/full strength. Spray some water on it - it's a moisture cure and giving it some moisture will speed it up. |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I'm about to start assembling things. The 3m tube says 7 days to cure. My hope is to have her in the water next Saturday. Y'all thing that will be enough curing time?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
I knew Ted could help out. The last time I was at his house, borrowing his valve grinder for my Flexifour rebuild, I saw a box of the wedges. BTW, I've mentioned Ted several times. He's retired and now does engine rebuilds. Pretty much Chris/Hercules and Gray's but others too. I hope you said hello for me! |
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uk1979 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: June-13-2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1426 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() The PCM part number I used is there type look much the same as the picture showing the set up, the old OMC trunnions are 11/4 from over here I'm going for HM trunnions are 7/8 or 1'inch. Can you still get new rubbers for old OMC mounts? |
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Lets have a go
56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21213 |
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Roger, your absolutely right and you probably already know this, but the adjustable mounts in your picture look to be OMC's (not PCM's).
The reason CC was probably able to get away with wedges only in back was that they likely placed the engine down in the boat and did not drill the lag holes until everything was lined up. Having front/back adjustability as well as up/down in the back is probably enough to align it. You would have the same luxury since youre replacing the stringers. |
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uk 1979 part2 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: April-30-2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 71 |
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If you don’t mind going none original I’m wondering if you could use PCM top mount only Trunnion Assembly part number RA092016 on all 4 mounts these have 1’ inch Trunnions if you have the same easy swap but if you have 7/8 as my Y block then I would get a local shop to spin them down, and if yours are 1’1/8 then a split collar over the PCM would work.
Failing that you could weld up the old lag holes and redrill to fit the trunnion boss that way if you need to gain height to fit onto the stringers just rotate the original trunnions 180’ no more wedges just nuts to set. This how CC fitted Chevy’s back in 78 in my SN would make adjustment easy but if original is your goal then this may be food for thought to others. Oh that fram filter was on it when I got it ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Thanks Pete!
I just got off the phone with Ted, he's sending me 4 of the small ones today. Hopefully I'll get them by Saturday. He suggest the longer ones but those are 9 inches long and I know I didn't leave that much of a notch in my floors for those. So getting the smaller 6 inch ones, pretty much the same length as my last ones. Originally I only had wedges in the back. Not sure how they ever thought you could align it perfectly without some for the front. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David,
Call: Ted Cartner @ 847 395 8902 or Jim Staib @ 815 344 WOOD There are two sizes of the cast iron wedges. You'll most liely want the smaller ones. Yes, when you make a height adjustment to ether the front or back, it's typical to have to adjust the other end as well. |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I would love anything that is easier to adjust. You say they basically have slots to slide the wedges up and down? That way you don't have to re drill if you have to make an adjustment. You think you could get me some? Before the stringer job I used 4 wedges, two for the front because I could not get the alignment right without adjusting the front.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David, Go back with the same size. Before the days of the adjustable engine mount. most boat manufacturers used slotted cast iron wedges. You move them fore to aft for the height adjustment and then there's holes in them so you screw them to the stringer to keep their position. CC went the "less expensive" route with the wood scraps laying around the shop!! ![]() |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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I measured my old lags and they are 1/2 inch diameter and 6 inches long. What do you think Pete? I know you got some wedges on your boat
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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Sure thing David. I just happen to have a spare 600 ton crane sitting around and an extra generator in my backyard. I know what you mean about the wind lately. I thought my Mastercraft was a submarine this weekend. The old S&S Mastercrafts sit extremely low as it is. The nose was constantly under water. I would think the down force on the wedges would be plenty myself. If you use stud bolts you could align first, mark and then drill the wedge. |
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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So I just got back from a shop down the street that specializes in screw, bolts, etc. They did not have any hanger bolts in stainless, neither did the hardware store I went to. Don't even see any on McMaster's. There are some here hangers they have 5 and 6 inchers. What size diameter is normal for the mounts? 3/8?
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vondy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-29-2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Jeff come put one of those beast in my back yard, with all the wind we have been getting around here I could power most of the area.
![]() Thinking a little more about this idea, it would cause some adjustment issues in the future. You could not adjust the wedges with two anchor bolts sticking out. Unless you cut a slot in the wedges so you could slide them back and forth. But then your relying only on down force of the bolt to hold the wedges in place. Guess I'll stick with regular lags. Or if I could find hanger bolts long enough that would be a better idea. If I pull then engine I can put her right back in without messing the the lags. But if the alignment is off, the lags will still be removable. Thoughts? |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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So there you go David. Pete has just completely over engineered your mounting bolt issue on a reasonable budget. That's the way it should be.
Pete, we are so blessed to have you on this site. You are the rarest form of engineer; anally meticulous and yet practical. In my experience most engineers can't build a shoe box if their mother's life depended on it. But you could give it a helm an engine and a prop. God knew Jesus couldn't be here for a while so he gave us ski boats to walk on water with. Then he gave us Pete to keep us from screwing them up. |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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Some unique perspectives Pete. The little dot on top is a man. Compare the crane hook to him.
![]() Now a close up of the man. ![]() Talk about balls.....this guy would lean out to the end of his harness and grab the rotor to help guide it in. Mostly so he could see alignment. At nearly 50 tons it's too heavy for him to really move it much. |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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Ahhh...the ones off 41 are on your left. I did not build those but if I remember correctly there were about 80 there. My direct responsibility was for Bluesky/ Greenfields which were actually two farms rolled into one representing 88 turbines off of 151 near Malone. In relative terms the Wisconsin turbines were actually some of the smaller turbines I installed. Only 1.67 MW compared to the more typical 2.1MW and some 2.5MW I had put up. My function was as the Civil Construction Manager which means I was responsible for coordination of all of the construction from the clearing of trees to the erection and final walkdowns excluding tower wiring and substation. I was also indirectly involved with Cedar Ridge which has another 50 turbines or so and is also in the same area.
They are literally beyond the imagination they are so large Pete. I was in constant amazement everyday. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff, I drive by the farm all the time on my way up north. I'm always amazed at the size of it - from Hwy. 41, you can't see far enough west to even see how far they go. How many are in that farm? |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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Pete, I was overstating it a bit as a compliment to the fine job he has done on the stringers. I do know that stainless will rust. My father is a marine contractor remember? ![]() However, your suggestion with epoxy setting the bolts is an excellent one. We used epoxy set in the wind industry to set foundation bolts into the bedrock. We tensioned the bolts to 620,000 pounds. I never calculated it but they told me that it would launch a 4.25" Nut about 5 miles if it broke. The thrust vector equivalent at the top is the same as a 757 so the foundation is under a dynamic torquing load in excess of 22,000,000 foot lbs. This often exceeds the compressive strength of even the best concrete, so epoxy bedding is also used to create the foot for the tower and spread the load across the concrete foundation to prevent pulverizing the concrete. Epoxy is some good *************** David. Our field break tests of our epoxy were around 18,000 psi for compressive strength compared to 3000 for the typical sidewalk. By the way Pete. Since you're a Wisconsin boy, I built a couple of the windfarms up by Fond du Lac. I worked for Alliant Energy and we built a windfarm for Wisconsin Energy. Talk about awkward since they are competitors. And cold? You guys have to be kidding me. I'm still defrosting. I'll take a TX 100 over a Wisconsin -20 any day of the week. Oh and for the record Pete, we used a different foundation in Wisconsin. |
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