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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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This boat is for sale now has a new custom cover, with trailer 7500,- euro
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flipflop ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-15-2010 Location: usa Status: Offline Points: 187 |
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Let me rephrase...How have you enjoyed the 330? It looks like you've put a lot of work in and it is a nice upgrade from the 351. Not a ton of older models with EFI.
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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What do you mean with held up? How it runs after 30 hours of use?
It sill run the same or better. |
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flipflop ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-15-2010 Location: usa Status: Offline Points: 187 |
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Just read this thread. How has the ex330 held up? I'm sure there will be a few interested parties.
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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If someone has interest in this Barefoot nautique it is for sale i want to sell one boat. For me it does not matter if i sell the 1988 barefoot nautique or the 1988 ski nautique both are Great!
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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the throttle respons is very nice,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQkWonzZmC4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwIszXqUsE |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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Thank you! i have no data, it was just the first time that the boat was in the water since i've got it. I just want to try i before the lake is frozen. the prop is a 13x13 at higher speeds the boat leans over to the left, is this normal?? |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Cool video
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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Thank you! |
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4249 |
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Ben, that sounds like a beast, spools up instantly when you give it throttle. Any numbers on rpms and speed from those runs?
I love that video. These little boats are a handful in rough water at speed, huh? |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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ok here we go!
today we tested my skier for the first time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc57JKmFNdw |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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ok will try the 13 x 13 first we will see.
Yes they have covered the stringers with a sheet of steel. Not the best way but i can life with it |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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No harm for a short test run to try the 13x13, but do plan on springing for a better prop. Not only are there few datapoints for that power train in that hull, but little data exists that would tell you which 12" prop to try based on your results with the 13" wheel. Lots of data for how the 12" props run relative to each other, which is why I'd encourage you to use that as a starting point instead. You don't know of anyone who can lend you one?
If not, I suspect we'll be back to where we started- guessing at which 12" prop to try. Did you do the stringer work or did it come to you that way? |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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ok i understand they are both not good, but i dont want to buy a new prop only for a test run. i think i will try the 13x 13 first and see what will happen.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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No to both. The 13x13 is too large in diameter for that hull. The 422 is way too big of a prop for a small block with a 1:1 tranny. If you could put your hands on a Federal or OJ in the 12x14 to 12x15 range, or an Acme 1214 (12.5x13), those would give you some good baseline performance numbers to work from.
Whats up with the stringers in that boat? Looks like theyve been monkeyed with? |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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![]() Currently i,m working on my other project a 1972 Skier were i will put the ford 351 in from my barefoot in. I need some advice about the prop, i have enough space to fit the 13x13 prop? is this a good prop to start with? the other option is that i try the acme 422 from my barefoot. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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Cant imagine why it would. Changing the shaft angle would require shaft log and strut changes and open up a whole new can of worms. Alignment starts at the strut and moves forward... Im sure he moved the powertrain to where it aligned to the existing running gear. |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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My Gps phone aps have always lagged 5 or 6 seconds before they will accuratly represent top speed. If I'm Checking my 36 mph numbers I have to get about 1/2 course before it will set stedy at whatever speed I have chosen. Checking top speed I have to leave it stuck there for a while. I've tried multiple speed apps. My Airguides are surprisingly accurate at high speeds.
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4249 |
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Sorry if I didn't see details of your build - did the Excalibur install change the shaft angle at all?
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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The extra weight, if soggy, actually isn't a big deal. It will primarily hurt holeshot (which looks very strong) and not so much the top end. We took 600 lbs out of our bfn and it didn't speed up much.
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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For me it is ok so,i know that the floor is not to good so it can be that i have some wet foam. but would that make a difference? i will replace the floor next winter. I first will put the the ford 351 in my 72 skier.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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5100 is right in the wheelhouse of that Excalibur, so no- I very much doubt it would speed up with a bigger prop. The speed vs rpm numbers are pretty much spot on with a tsc2 196 (45mph @ 5000rpm), which is weird- I would expect a bfn hull to have more than a 2mph advantage, and be closer to 1:1 (speed vs rpm). It should have a significantly faster hull and a few hundred lb weight advantage.
I'd get a more accurate speed measuring device if you really want to know what it's capable of. |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3337 |
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Fisheye lens on the gopro makes the wake look narrow and out there, me thinks!
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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Here we go!
today i tested the speed with an Iphone app and it is 47 mph @5100 rpm i did a short run so maybe i can reach 48. this is the first prop i tried so i think with a bigger pitch prop you can reach the 50! |
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GlassSeeker ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-26-2008 Location: Elk Grove, CA. Status: Offline Points: 2421 |
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Garmin GPS V has setting for big numbers and is easy to read and can be had for about $50 on ebay.
Put your interior back in...you need at least some weight in the boat or the wake won't appear the same. The real test is how fast it will pull a barefooter while at least 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 people are in the boat. |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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GPS that bad dad. That wake gets awfully far back there when you crack the throttle wide open. I like how you can see how much it torques over when you give it that mid range punch in the video.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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A later direct drive BFN with the 454 is usually good for ~47mph. An earlier version (pre-87) will be a little faster (49-50). Yours looks and sounds a good bit faster than both.
The Garmin eTrex works well and can be found for <$100 here in the US (brand new). |
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Ben#155 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-24-2008 Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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Ok,i'm curious about the GPS speed. |
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