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62 wood ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-19-2005 Location: NW IL Status: Offline Points: 4527 |
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As gas is rapidly approaching the $4/gallon mark, I have a question...
....the last time gas was $4/gallon (2008?), from what I remember, oil was in the $140 to $150/barrel price. Today it is in the $110/barrel range.... whats up with that? |
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Morfoot ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5335 |
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Steve, It's funny you should mention this as it seemed to be the topic of discussion today around the shop. I'd bet my last gallon of gas that the oil companies will post RECORD Breaking Profits AGAIN!
On a positive note for the day Oil was down $3 a barrel which I'm sure we will all see an immediate decrease in the price of gas. It goes up $.15 in an 8 hour period when the price is up. I'm sure the opposite is true right? ![]() |
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62 wood ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-19-2005 Location: NW IL Status: Offline Points: 4527 |
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You got that right Tim! I dont seem to hear people screaming as loudly this time? Are we just getting used to it? |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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You know the answer to that Steve.The ones who bring it up are keeping quite because they are the ones in favor of the current management. On a completly different subject,I'm thinking of putting a 4 or a 6 in my boat ![]() |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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They got the gas & we want to burn it. I'd say they got us over a $110 barrel.
I'd ride a bike, in the rain, for a month, just to save enough gas money to go skiing for an hour - it's that much fun to me. |
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62 wood ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-19-2005 Location: NW IL Status: Offline Points: 4527 |
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I was wondering how the big "D" and"R" battle enters in.. ......must make a difference on who's in "charge"? and I do like my 6 banger in times like this! I'm like Chris, might not be able to get out as often, but will still get out! ![]() |
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sethro ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: February-11-2009 Location: Sterling, IL Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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The most painful part to me is realizing that the last 10 miles I just drove in my truck cost me $4.00 or $3.75 or whatever the price per gallon might be...in gas alone.
As to your orignial question...I've decided it's something I will never fully understand. ![]() |
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4129 |
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This is why my wife and I both drive diesels and I make my own Bio-diesel. It costs me a little less than a buck a gallon to make and the money we save goes in the boats.
If I lived in the south I would do the veggie conversion, thats even cheaper than making the bio. |
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boat dr ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
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I guess I am too die hard to give it much thought. I will put hours on my boats, period. At 4 bucks a gallon not as many tankfuls, just longer slower cruises. Boat dr
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hasbeenskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-23-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Try running a fleet of HD2500 service trucks avg. 150. milea a day.
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4129 |
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If your fuel is taxed like it is in Pa all I can say is OUCH!!! $4.25+ in Pa mostly road tax. |
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horkn ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-10-2007 Location: Cedarburg, Wi Status: Offline Points: 1511 |
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Since my boat runs great now, and I have a great job, I will burn gas in the boat even at 5 dollars a gallon. As it sounds, the $5 mark will be in full effect by the heat of boating season. My weekends and time off are worth far more than anything else. I have noticed that taking slow cruises will really extend a tank of gas.
And yes, record profits for big oil are here already. Why at 110 a barrel are they at around 4 dollars a gallon when the last time gas prices were this high a barrel was a good 30-40 dollars higher? That's a great question. Big oil knows why, and it should not have anything to do with the dems in power as they are opposed to big oil getting richer. I'm taking the bike tomorrow and Thursday to work. At the current rate of gas prices I save like 7 bucks a day by riding the motorcycle than taking my car. |
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sweet77 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January-06-2011 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 666 |
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$104.00 in my 3500 Chevrolet service truck today im getting 11.4 miles to the gallon. I drive roughly 125 mi a day yeah it sucks. ive just decided i took up the wrong business. Should have just been born rich
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davidg ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-07-2008 Location: NW Chicagoland Status: Offline Points: 2239 |
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Drill Baby....Drill!!!!
We need to use our own resources instead of relying on OPEC! I remember in '08 gas in downtown Chicago was $4.60/gal. Here in the suburbs, it was ~$1.00/gal less. Now, most stations around here are at $4.09 even in the milktoast burbs. But, whats the alternative? A Chevy Volt?? ![]() |
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GaryS-- I've got another Buick V-6 hanging on the Engine Stand right now! You want to build it up nice? As for the driving the Company truck--The 99 Toyota Tacoma gets 22 mpg ,in the city- I get 330 miles a tankful, and I drive no less than 200 miles a day!! Fill up every other day!
And the guy next door at Sunshine Racing- he has his VW Jetta set up for Veggie Oil. In the mornings, when we have the doors open, you can smell him pulling in. We might smell Hush Puppies one day and Fish the next! |
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OverMyHead ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-14-2008 Location: MN Status: Offline Points: 4861 |
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In 1976 gas cost .60 per gallon today it is about $4.00 an increase of 666%. In 1976 bread cost .30, today average is 2.28, an increase of 933% yet I never hear complaints about big bread profits. I have heard oil company profits have been remakably consisten at a return of 7% on the dollar invested for years. That is a return of 1.07 for every dollar spent. In 2008 when then candidate hillory clinton was complaining about record profits for oil companys racking in that big 7 cents on the dollar, verison wireless made 100% profit, 2 dollars returned for every one spent, but the media and politicians make the oil companies out as the greedy bad guys, and our ignorant electorate buys the whole scam. Demand for gas rises nearly every year, giving oil companys record sales nearly every year. Taking the same 7 cents on the dollar for each gallon of gas gives them record profits nearly every year. It is all about volume. At 4$ per gallon oil companys make about a 28 cent per gallon profit, meanwhile in Minnesota gas taxes are 45.6 cents per gallon. The oil companies buy or drill for the oil, transport it or build pipe lines, refine it, store it, transport it to the gas stations and sell it for .28 cents per gallon profit. What is the government doing for its 45.6 cent share? Building light rail? Have you ever tried to hook up your correct craft to a light rail train? As far as the differnce between 2008 and now, oil is sold in us dollars and that has not changed (yet),but it is not just the purchase of raw crude, everything the oil company has to do (listed above) has to be paid in US dollars. With our country monitising its debt, our currencies value is dropping on the world market, and we are seeing real inflation in transportation cost here in the U.S.. also in Minnesota gas taxes have gone up 5.1 cents per gallon since 2008. It all adds up, and goes way beyond oil company profits.
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3412 |
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Current fuel prices in Belgium...
![]() Diesel: 1,463 euro/liter equals 8,039 $/gal Gas: 1,679 euro/liter equals 9,226 $/gal LPG: 0,692 euro/liter equals 3,803 $/gal And they're gonna keep going up in the following weeks... ![]() Just to put things back into perspective for you guys... |
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harddock ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-04-2008 Location: Toontown, MA Status: Offline Points: 1763 |
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Is your diesel the low sulphur kind because youres is considerably less than gas and ours is the opposite? What can you expect, they have us paying a buck for a pint of water. |
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eric lavine ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413 |
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are we surprised?
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eric lavine ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413 |
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here is my logic, because i drive a diesel, people alawys question me why i drive a diesel, and i will from here on out, they always say diesel is more expensive than gas so why would i want one. here is my reply, you are roughly getting 20 mpg on gas, i get on average 45 mpg, so to go 45 miles it costs me 4.00 bucks for you to go 45 miles it costs you about 8.50....is this very hard to understand?....now if your getting 12 mpg, figure that out lol
the only way i ever get a raise is to cut down on costs, so driving the diesel was my raise for the year |
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eric lavine ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413 |
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needless to say, that wasnt a bad raise
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4129 |
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When I got sent on my little vacation by Uncle Sam overseas in '04 diesel was cheaper than gas. I sold my F150 before I left, before I returned I ordered a new '06 diesel to be waiting my return. Diesel was now more than gas.
Ultra-low process had some to do with it but it's also the road tax we're paying, I get to pay the same road tax as a semi truck. The upside is the mileage increase like Eric stated. With my 150 pulling my trailer I got 8mpg with my diesel pulling the same trailer on the same trip I get 16mpg. |
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I have a few friends with newer diesel pick-ups and they dont get double the mpg that I get in my F150. Granted, they can tow a house, and have a heavier truck. It seems the diesel motor is about 10K more than the gas version. If diesel is .30 more than gas that means you have to use over 33,000 gallons of diesel to pay the extra cost of the motor. Bottom line, if you need a diesel, buy one. But, the gvt has the game rigged to make you pay about the same cost per mile as the gas. No free lunch with the diesel.
Isnt it funny how diesel prices changed about the same time the more efficient diesels started hitting the market? |
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OverMyHead ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-14-2008 Location: MN Status: Offline Points: 4861 |
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Chalk that up to government regulation.there is a anti gas war law that sets the bottom price for gas (a certain margin above cost. This is designed to protect the little guy from a prolonged price war from a big player, but also eliminates fire sales on gas.
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skicat2001 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-24-2008 Location: Ft. Worth TX Status: Offline Points: 1950 |
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We got to pay for Obama fancy trips...
![]() ![]() ![]() What gas price range up there in the north and east??? Average down here is 3.59 and 3.79 depending where you go?? I hate Shell gas... Seem to be always higher than others ![]() |
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skicat2001 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-24-2008 Location: Ft. Worth TX Status: Offline Points: 1950 |
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10 4 david ![]() ![]() ![]() What are the prices up north and east??? Down here in tx ranges from 3.59 and 3.79.. Depending where you go?? Shell try to stick to peps down here. ![]() |
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On my way to the Hurricane flipping, I paid $4.04 the other day. I need to fuel up tomorrow and I'll see what it's gone up to. Damn, with the card $$$ limits at the pay at the pump, now it will defiantly be a two credit card fill up!
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