1995 GT-40 Fuel Pump/FCC conversion

I wish I could answer this but I don't know.   You may be right.
Does it make any odd noise while running? Usually if they sound good they are good.
Have you tried tapping on the pump to get it to jump start?
How many hours on this unit, maybe it is just time for replacement.
I hope it is not an electrical issue and I am steering the wrong way.
Have you checked the amp draw cold when it works vrs the amp draw how when it does not work?

Gun driver, if the electric pump is getting Hot the pump is shot. Since fuel runs through the pump at all times it is cooled constantly by the fuel the entire time the engine is running.   The fuel temp is the same as tank temp. That should equal outside temps most times.
A pump getting hot usually means the bushings inside are worn or damaged from running dry and the friction is heating up the pump. The only solution is replacement.
A dry start with a high pressure pump can damage the bushings in as little as 20 seconds run time. Another good reason for your 3 second fuel shut off wired in to all these systems.   This is why we all should train everybody in our house to NEVER run out of gas in our cars (boats) or run them on fumes.   Fuel Pumps are expensive.

Sorry about any confusing terminology. Both pumps in your pictures are nothing special in the automotive electric pump world. My point is they can be replaced by a similar pump that fits and gives the same service for much less money than some are spending.
I would be glad to help ID the electric pumps so we could get replacement pump part numbers listed.   If that is done already I should have read more first.
The Fuel Injected engines we have talked about use 39 PSI + or -, The manufacurers regulate this with the pressure relief valve in the fuel rail. As long as the pump puts out more than 39 PSI it will work well. There used to be a listed max pressure and gallons per hour flow rates for these pumps in the old pump catalogs, most of these could Max at more than 70 psi to maintain the constant 39 for the system so there is a lot of wiggle room on pump replacement. It just has to fit, flow enough fuel and more than 39 PSI.

Gary S wrote: Except it was most likely PCM's call not CC. Roy would know he was one of them going out and converting them.

Gary your right about that being a PCM thing.
I have a call into Roy now waiting on a call back.

I bought the '95 in '08 and don't remember having any problems until about 2 years ago.
The 1 to 2 year run could have been something to do with suppliers, contracts, costs who knows, who knows why CC did a lot of things they did.

Pete you and Mark are confusing the 95's pump with a '96 and newer pump. There is no FCC. Here is the pump-



96 and up replace this pump with the FCC and it's internal pump -this is the pump out of the FCC-

I will open my old one up after I replace it and do some out of the boat testing with heat a source trying to replicate what's happening.
I'm thinking if I can make it act up with a heat source and if I take that heat away and it doesn't maybe it's just a matter of relocation instead of a $750 conversion. Then again maybe it's 20 years old and just needs to be replaced we shall see.

Links from Trevor
https://www.amazon.com/Delphi-Packard-Weatherpack-Terminal-16-14/dp/B004DVM7RG/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1469593543&sr=1-1&keywords=delphi+weatherpack

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delphi-Weather-Pack-2-Pin-Sealed-Connector-Kit-16-14-GA-/221582395995

If the old FCC is still available could we tear it apart. I would be glad to try and identify the electric pump inside it so future failures could be easier and cheaper for the owners.
PCM did not manufacture a electric pump, I am sure it was made by Carter, Airtex or Bosch.
They were the most common and are still available. I have one but really don't want to take a good one apart. Thanks.

Nice job
Thanks for the info I'm sure it will help many in the future
Also where did you get the weather pac plug that mates to the new FCC plug?

I have taken some pictures, I will post them when I figure out how to do it I spent about 750 on the conversion.

Parts used RA080031 FCC
                     R090176 FCC Bracket
                     RA085064 Line rail outlet to FCC
                      RA085063 Line FCC to fuel rail
                      RA024175 Fitting top of fcc to fuel lines 2 req.
                      R024089 3/8 Barb to 1/4 npt 90 deg   2 req
Also need a 3/8 barb to 1/4npt fitting.

I left the low pressure pump in the stock location(just installed a r080018 the week prior)
I took out the original return all the way to the tank. Used about 12ft of3/8 fuel line to get from the tank to the FCC., The water hose to the manifold needed to be turned upward and lengthened for clearance on the FCC, it took about 18" of new 1"hose.I Cut off the original wire plug to the HPP and soldered on new wires and put on a mating weatherpack plug for the FCC

pictures of your conversion too, please    

Found a parts diagram and ordered the FCC and fuel lines from Nautique Parts Installed the FCC and new fuel lines about 2 weeks ago. My intermittent but getting more frequent hot start issues are now gone.

Has any one converted a 1995 GT-40 to use the later model Fuel control cell and fuel pump?. My high pressure pump has failed and a replacement can not be located. I was looking at the RA080031 Fuel cell but unsure of how to plumb it in and what hoses would be needed. I looks like the FCC has two outlets for the fuel rails, where the current setup has one. Does anybody have a picture or diagram of the fuel lines?

Thanks
Trevor