1984 Nautique Starter Issues

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   Yes, I meant the solenoid that is attached to the starter; they all work when off the motor, but, it does not have 12.5 volts when off the motor.

The battery cable connectors are shiny brass now.

I think I found the issue after working through your guidance.

When I disconnect the starter from the solenoid/magnet, I get 12.5 in and out of the solenoid magnet when trying to start the boat (with solenoid magnet connected and starter disconnected). Also, I get 12.5 out of the relay when trying to start the boat with this configuration.

When I connect to the starter, I now get 11.4 volts, so this means the voltage drop is inside the starter. So the starter must be dragging down the entire system even though it runs, the voltage drop caused by the starter prevents the solenoid magnet from having enough voltage to engage the flywheel.

Does this sound correct?

Should I pull the back off of the starter and look inside?

David

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Trader144 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: September-24-2015 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trader144 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-11-2015 at 6:17pm
	Yes, I meant the solenoid that is attached to the starter; they all work when off the motor, but, it does not have 12.5 volts when off the motor. The battery cable connectors are shiny brass now. I think I found the issue after working through your guidance. When I disconnect the starter from the solenoid/magnet, I get 12.5 in and out of the solenoid magnet when trying to start the boat (with solenoid magnet connected and starter disconnected). Also, I get 12.5 out of the relay when trying to start the boat with this configuration. When I connect to the starter, I now get 11.4 volts, so this means the voltage drop is inside the starter. So the starter must be dragging down the entire system even though it runs, the voltage drop caused by the starter prevents the solenoid magnet from having enough voltage to engage the flywheel. Does this sound correct? Should I pull the back off of the starter and look inside? David

Bri892001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4945	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bri892001 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-11-2015 at 6:40pm
	Do you have a picture of your starter? The old style Ford starters (original) worked a little differently as far as how they engaged the flywheel. With you saying you have a solenoid right on the starter, sounds like you might have the newer type.

Trader144 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: September-24-2015 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trader144 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-11-2015 at 6:48pm
	Here is a picture of my starter; let me know if you need a better one.

SNobsessed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102	Post Options Post Reply Quote SNobsessed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-11-2015 at 9:58pm
	I would take the starter to a rebuild shop & have them growl test it. You may have a shorted armature.
	“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin

Trader144 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: September-24-2015 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trader144 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-20-2015 at 12:16pm
	After considering the time and low savings $$ from a rebuild I went with a new starter from skidim. New starter is installed and it runs with a full 12.5v. Thank you for your help. Why do newer boats not have this ground issue plague?

1984 Nautique Starter Issues

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