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Oh the memories! Looks good. I scanned through the pages of your thread and it kind of makes me want to do another one. One day...
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Anybody got an idea as to how to mount a stereo here? The one thing my CC needs is a stereo, but there is just no really good place to mount it.....
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Since you have have the fiberglass thing down now and probably have some leftover supplies build a custom fiberglass plate to hold it. The car stereo guys build this stuff all the time. I believe Kristof has some pics of a speaker box he made using the same process. You make a plate to hold the head unit and a another to fill the hole and attach them together so everything sits the way you want. Then connect the 2 surfaces together by stapling a piece of fabric to get the smooth shape your looking for and coat that with resin.   When it dries you have a solid piece to lay some fiberglass cloth on for strength. Lay some cloth on that, sand it smooth a give it some nice paint and it's ready to go.
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Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

Oh the memories! Looks good. I scanned through the pages of your thread and it kind of makes me want to do another one. One day...


Agreed! I have often thought about "what I'll do next" ~ now that I know what I'm doing..... That said, I recommend you come down here this weekend, and help me finish mine up!
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520 lbs of solid iron > a couple of cases of beer ~~~~~



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Well I waited too long to run my cables back through, but I'm not sure I could have done it any other way.

I will say, it was not fun threading the the oil sensor cable, throttle cable, bilge pump hose, and electrical harness through the bulkhead, but I got it done.

The only cable left to run is the Steering Cable. It is/ was impossible. So, rather than run the "rudder end" of the cable through, I'm going to go in reverse and disconnect the cable from the steering wheel. The cable at the steering wheel is more flexible and should be able to get through.

My question is, "How do I get the steering cable off?"

I've attached a pictures...... really getting down to the nitty gritty.....
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Perhaps it would be even easier if I could get the metal rod part of the rudder end of the steering cable off ~~~~ this unflexible end is why it will not thread through the bulkhead tube now.

There's a bolt there, but is it possible to remove the metal rod?

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Unscrew that plastic nut holding the cable to the helm. Then spin the steering wheel. The cable's spiral core meshes with the pulleys inside the helm. Have a rag ready 'cause it's greasy. Fix a rope onto this end of the cable & pull the cable out towards the stern. Tie your new cable onto the rope & then pull it back through. When you re-thread the cable into the helm, you have the opportunity to get the steering wheel centered when rudder is centered.
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Disassemble as Chris said but since it's already out of the conduit your going to have to use a wire fish of some sort to pull it through.
If you don't have a wire fish some stiff Romex or a stiff wire will work to pull it through.
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VICTORY!

Got the cable off at the steering wheel, and threaded through the bulkhead.

I intend to change the steering wheel also. Any tips on how to do that?

Also, what kind of grease do you use on the steering cable? I wiped it all off when I disassembled it.


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Good deal.

Use brake caliper grease, it is synthetic. Regular grease softens the nylon liner.
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I'm out of fiberglass thickener!

Anybody know of something I could use as a filler ~ mostly for fairing applications ~ that would be available locally?

I've got some mat that I can chop up ~~~~~ but I'm not sure that would be ideal for fairing......

Was thinking talc, but I'm not sure where I'd go to get it (Lowe's, Home Depot have no idea what I'm talking about).

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Hey! Can you believe it? I actually figured this one out ~~~~ I made some chopped strand out of some extra mat I have. I pulled it apart by hand and then just cut it into tiny pieces with my scissors. I was surprised how well it laid down. Really made for some smooth transitions.


Now: my layup plan for the floor is as follows:

1. Chopped Strand Fillet connecting hull to floor edge.

2. Chopped Strand Fillet to address any issues regarding a "level" transition between plywood pieces

3. Two layers of 2" tape on the seams.

4. A single layer of fiberglass cloth that covers the top of the floor, and rises up about 12 inches onto the hull.

I'm thinking I probably need another layer of cloth over the top of the floor ~ but concerns about running out of epoxy have caused me to skimp here for now.

If I have any epoxy left over, I'm going to go back with another layer of cloth.

I've covered everything up to the battery box ~~~~~ once it cures, I'll finish up underneath the bow, and go back with another layer of cloth if I have any left over epoxy.
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Completed Floor!



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Well ~~~ it's been 5 hours, and I've been thinking about the single layer of fiberglass cloth laid on top of the mat fillet which holds the floor to the hull wall, and the Primary then Secondary stringers.

I'm thinking the single layer of fiberglass cloth is not going to be strong enough....

Now I'm thinking I'm going to run a layer of 12" Biax to strengthen the bond between the floor and hull.

My original plan was to add another layer of Fiberglass cloth ~~~ but that just adds strength in 2 directions.

Either way, this is going to set me back some time ~ but it should result in a stronger boat.

The question I have (from someone who has done this before) is "What would you do?"

The floor separated from the hull wall ~ causing me to have to do the stringer replacement in the first place.....   I don't want to have to do it again (at least not on this boat).

Can I get some kind of feedback from someone?

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Seems like the last month of posts have been mostly monologues in nature ~ but I did want to keep you updated.

I decided to run a layer of biax over the layer of fiberglass cloth on the floor to strengthen the bond between the floor and hull.

The engine is going in on Monday ~ it was supposed to go in today, but the garage was swamped.....

Today's question if anyone is interested in helping out: I was installing the battery and running the battery cables, and it occured to me that a one of the wires in the electrical harness is supposed to attach to the battery, but I didn't make any notes on this when I was doing the tear down. Any idea which wire(s)? I assume it is one of the shorter wires in the harness, but there are several of them ~ as the bilge pump and automatic float switch are there also.

I've been delaying so much on painting ~ trying to get the fiberglass absolutely perfect. Once that fiberglass is painted, there's no fixing it.... BTW, the decision to go with a non carpet floor has cost me at least a week if not more ~ as the carpet would cover many flaws in the finish (eg: a drop of epoxy that fell where it shouldn't have). Put carpet over that, and no one would ever know it. Paint over it, and everyone would think you had a blister......

So ~ I have been sanding and resanding like a mad man; building up low spots, and sanding down high spots ~~~ then you invariably have to sand again....

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I went with a painted floor (2 coats of Interlux 200-e for the primer, 2 coats of Interlux Brightsides, then a final coat of Interlux Brightsides with Intergrip Non Skid).....

After the last coat of Brightsides was on, it was a matter of installing the furniture, and heading to the lake.



Victory!

IF I CAN DO THIS ~ YOU CAN DO THIS!
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