Forums
NautiqueParts.comNautiqueSkins.com - Correct Craft Upholstery and Part
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - MV-1: Step-by-step teardown, clean and assemble.
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

MV-1: Step-by-step teardown, clean and assemble.

 Post Reply Post Reply Page    <123>
Author
Bri892001 View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: September-27-2008
Location: Boston MA
Status: Offline
Points: 4947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bri892001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 4:20pm
White Lake offers those swooshy ones as replacements. I guess it's better than nothing.
Back to Top
Air206 View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: September-28-2008
Location: Roanoke, VA
Status: Offline
Points: 3000
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Air206 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 4:09pm
Tim:
Correct as always - Non-OEM for CCs...... They are sold as replacements.... the guts are almost identical ...but the MV-3 has the swooshy look on the throttle arm and faceplate...... See above!
Back to Top
TRBenj View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: June-29-2005
Location: NWCT
Status: Offline
Points: 21132
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TRBenj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 3:56pm
MV3? Never seen one on a CC.

Back to Top
Riley View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: January-19-2004
Location: Portland, ME
Status: Offline
Points: 7952
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Riley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 3:50pm
Steve, PM sent.

Edit: My eyes were playing tricks on me. I thought your post said MV2.
Back to Top
Air206 View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: September-28-2008
Location: Roanoke, VA
Status: Offline
Points: 3000
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Air206 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 3:37pm
Kevin:

I know exactly how much you paid....... you out bid me! It looks great.

I have an NOS MV-3 avail for $150 if you want to add to your collection!

Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March-19-2013 at 1:18pm
I need to do an update to my post above. In the last two weeks or so I discovered that when I installed my MV-2 into the boat, the leverage I was able to put on the throttle was easily able to over ride the safety on the throttle. If you look at the photos of my breakdown you'll notice how very worn the "TOP" piece is on my throttle. Since we can't seem to find a source for these anywhere I was considering just machining one of my own.

Then, I found something on eBay and last week I won a NOS MV-2. It arrived in it's original box yesterday and included an original set of pins, cotters, and mounting screws (this was a surprise since the auction only mentioned the mounting screws). I won't give away the price I paid, but it was a very good deal. I think this likely was because the seller noted it was set up for a left-hand installation. A quick check of the MV-2 owners manual confirmed that all that was needed to change to a right-hand configuration was to remove a set screw, flip the throttle over and presto - right hand configuration.

I sure wish there were a way to restore the "TOP" pieces, because that is the only thing needed to fix these parts to brand-new functionality. Well, that and the springs that break all the time.

My eBay win is below. I've since flipped around the throttle arm to the correct configuration. It also came with a neutral sensing electronic switch that is not needed, which I have removed:


Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
Corby View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: January-14-2013
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 8
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Corby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-19-2013 at 10:40am
Hey Guys,
Started reinstalling the Morse today. I had read the posts explaining how to adjust the cables to avoid the engine increasing in revs before the gearbox engages. I tried the method described, ie. leave the cable detached at the carby end, move the lever so that the gearbox is in gear. At this point the throttle should still be at idle so the throttle cable should be adjusted so it can be connected at the in gear position without opening the throttle.
The problem I encountered is that when you pull the lever back to the neutral position it tries to close the throttle further putting a lot of strain on the throttle linkage. Cam anyone guide me further in how to adjust it correctly.
Previous to today it had been opening the throttle before engaging the gearbox, cause a harsh "clunk" into gear.
Thanks again!
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-16-2013 at 1:56pm
I am not an expert but I'd say that your cam looks oddly worn. My MV-2, which is similar but not the same, didn't have that wear pattern at all. I do not believe that there are parts available for these controls unless you find a used one somewhere to scavenge for parts. I would grease things up with a good amount of white lithium grease, put it all back together and see how it works. You might be pleasantly surprised. If it is not satisfactory you may just need a new unit.

That arm you think is shortened looks relatively normal to me.
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
Corby View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: January-14-2013
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 8
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Corby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-16-2013 at 10:09am
While I am waiting for the Clevis for my rudder to arrive I decided to look into why the throttle starts engaging before it shifts into gear. I have found some excellent descriptions of how to adjust these, so I will try that on the weekend. In the mean time I have disassembled the morse to give it an overhaul. The previous owner has operated on the "if some grease is good, more is better" principle and filled it up. It took me forever to clean it out!! so now its looking a lot nicer.. Which comes to the questions....
-how much grease do I need to put in upon reassembly?
-The "cam" looks fairly worn, how does it compare with others people have seen. Is this part available to give it a more crisp feel?
-The lever that attaches to the back of the morse looks "modified" (cut off). Is it shorter than factory?
Again Thanks in advance!
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December-19-2012 at 6:04pm
Super. Thank you, Chris. Added this thread to the FAQ.
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
storm34 View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: November-03-2008
Location: Dexter Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 4492
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote storm34 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December-19-2012 at 1:02pm
Kevin, they're back up now. Guess thats what I get for uploading them with my facebook account. They're uploaded in photobucket and should stay up now.
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December-19-2012 at 4:07am
Chris - What happened to the photos in this thread?
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
mattfahey View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: August-06-2012
Location: Tinley Park, IL
Status: Offline
Points: 7
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mattfahey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-06-2012 at 1:03am
Sorry, I also looked at teh MV2 document in the reference section, just not sure which way the "throttle arm" (number 20 in the exploded diagram) connects, as it can be attached in 4 directions.
Matt - 1979 Mustang
Back to Top
mattfahey View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: August-06-2012
Location: Tinley Park, IL
Status: Offline
Points: 7
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mattfahey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-06-2012 at 12:32am
Does anybody have pictures of how the shift and throttle cables attach to the back of this.

When I bought my boat, the throttle cable was not attached, and before I tear it apart, it would be nice to have a better idea of how to proceed.

Thanks!
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-13-2012 at 4:58pm
I still think we need a "How To" section on these Forums. How can we get that accomplished?
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
airden23 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: June-22-2012
Location: Minnesota
Status: Offline
Points: 27
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airden23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-02-2012 at 2:40am
Its hard to tell, but here's what happened. I took the silver casing off and things popped out on me...nervous feeling :). I couldn't really tell how many things came out, but when I cleaned up the area I was working in, I found one ball bearing. The small spring was still inside (not the larger one underneath the sliver plate like you mention, but rather the smaller one stuck in grease) but I thought perhaps two bearings popped out on me. I thought that I placed the bearing back in the correct place, but am not sure. I must not have put it back in the correct place, hence the "slide" I mentioned.

The problem I had was that at about the 10 o'clock position when you put the throttle down it was VERY hard to push down to go faster. This made it very hard to control speed while wakeboarding. I think the problem was that the nut came loose that connected the throttle. It wasn't until I had it all apart and read your post that this made sense to me. Anyways, after I put it all back together that problem was solved.

I might need to tweak the distance that the cables have; meaning how you can screw the connectors up and down before they connect to the throttle (bad description, I know). There is probably an art to it to get it just right.

I think the bearing now isn't catching the hog-out area. It seems to function fine, it just doesn't catch the hog-out so it is easier than it should be to go in and out of neutral.

Again, thanks for the step-by-step. It should probably be put in the forum hall of fame or something!
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-01-2012 at 2:00am
Matt,

I believe the purpose of the secondary ball bearing (the one in the casing) is to keep the neutral switch where you want it. It took a lot of work for me to get that ball out, fish out the spring and clean it up. It was nearly glued in with old nasty grease. Once I cleaned the ball and spring, greased everything up and reinstalled it was hard to keep it in place, which I would guess is the way it is supposed to function. In mine, there was only one ball bearing in the silver case (not two as you mention in the post). I'll also say that the fit if the neutral switch was quite snug inside the cam it operates. In the photos above you can clearly see the hog-out in the neutral switch that rides on a ball bearing.

Does everything else function normally? What was it doing that caused you to take it apart?
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
airden23 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: June-22-2012
Location: Minnesota
Status: Offline
Points: 27
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airden23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June-30-2012 at 6:23pm
What holds the neutral button in neutral? Is it 2 ball bearings within the silver case? I took mine apart today, and now the button just slides in and out with no real "pop" like it used to. There is nothing to keep it from going in and out except engaging the transmission.

Thanks for the informative post! This was awesome! I couldn't believe it
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-29-2012 at 1:36pm
Thanks, Marty! Of course, once I start to order parts from NautiqueParts.com, I can't just order a couple of brass pins. There is so much else I need on there and I'm already paying shipping, so....
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
MartyMabe View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: February-21-2006
Location: High Point,NC
Status: Offline
Points: 3974
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MartyMabe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-29-2012 at 10:59am
Originally posted by KRoundy KRoundy wrote:

Some questions for the CCF gang:

The brass pins that go to the control cables are very worn. Can I get new ones somewhere? Kevin


Kevin, THESE old things ?

   And these go with it

All You Have To Do Is Ask and YOU Shall Receive
66 Skylark
93 SN
If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out!
Back to Top
pigge View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: May-27-2011
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 8
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pigge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-29-2012 at 7:33am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

To change a cable you don't have to remove the control. If you want to make it easier you can remove the lever that the cable attaches to with one bolt.Get your self a mirror and when you replace make sure you mount that lever back in the position it was in.

Thanks Gary, you were right, it was real easy to to get it off after loosin the cable at the engine, no need for removing the lever..
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-29-2012 at 12:04am
Update: I don't need a new "TOP" piece, it just needed a new spring. I got one at a local hardware store for 0.60 cents (thanks for the advice, Marty!). The remainder was just cleaning and new grease. It works like new! I referenced this page a lot and also took lots of pictures along the way (which is always a good idea).

All apart on my kitchen table:


The completed project, with my beautiful new blue throttle knob!


If you'd like all the gory details:
WordPress blog

When are we going to create a "How To" forum on CCF?
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-28-2012 at 3:37am
Some clarification here in top and side views of the part that I'd like to replace. Also - I found out my spring was broken, as predicted. Marty mentioned a while ago that he had replacement springs. Help me Marty!



Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
KRoundy View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: August-23-2010
Location: Lake Stevens
Status: Offline
Points: 1702
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KRoundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-28-2012 at 2:07am
Took mine apart tonight (it is a MV-2, but essentially the same ideas) and this was SO helpful! Thank you.

Some questions for the CCF gang:

The brass pins that go to the control cables are very worn. Can I get new ones somewhere? Also, the "latch" that you move by lifting on the plastic seat below the throttle to push the throttle forward or back is very worn and is not functioning as intended. Can I purchase one of these somewhere?

Kevin
Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow
Back to Top
nautique frk View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: February-16-2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1784
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nautique frk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-16-2012 at 5:10pm
Thank you for a good "How to " !
Back to Top
Gary S View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: November-30-2006
Location: Illinois
Status: Offline
Points: 14096
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:39pm
To change a cable you don't have to remove the control. If you want to make it easier you can remove the lever that the cable attaches to with one bolt.Get your self a mirror and when you replace make sure you mount that lever back in the position it was in.
69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport
Back to Top
Hollywood View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: February-04-2004
Location: Twin Lakes, WI
Status: Offline
Points: 13512
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hollywood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:26pm
I think I've spent over an hour trying to get the control off the Martinique and it is still hanging on, these pictures definitely help. I seemingly couldn't get the bolts off the pins w/o the throttle arm moving all over. I suppose I should have done that before loosening it from the gunnel. You can probably help when you're here in 2 weeks.
Back to Top
pigge View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: May-27-2011
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 8
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pigge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:03pm
excellent post, my throttle cable broke so i need to replace it and I'm having a hard time with the three Philips screws on the outside of the housing, i got one nut off from the back, but even after that i couldn't move the Philips screw at all.. but I'm guessing that it will be near impossible to get the swivel bracket screw for the throttle cable off without having the control taken off it's mounting but this post shows me what needs to be taken apart to get the control off
Back to Top
lakedog55 View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member


Joined: November-11-2010
Location: Lake Weir Fl
Status: Offline
Points: 835
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lakedog55 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February-08-2012 at 10:46pm
Thanks for your time, I still managed to drop the small ball, but found it, casing is painted almost ready for install.
Lakedog55
Back to Top
storm34 View Drop Down
Grand Poobah
Grand Poobah
Avatar

Joined: November-03-2008
Location: Dexter Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 4492
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote storm34 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February-08-2012 at 1:22pm
Just thought I'd document the process since I'm probably not the first one to tear into once of these without knowing what they're getting into.

It's all back together and functioning properly on the boat now. Still not as smooth as I'd like it to be, looks like I'll be replacing the shifter and trans cables as well.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page    <123>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Copyright 2024 | Bagley Productions, LLC