MV-1: Step-by-step teardown, clean and assemble. |
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Bri892001
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Looks awesome
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rapok4
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Where did you find that shift knob? I just rebuilt my MV-1 and it needs a knob.
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Bri892001
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There used to be a guy on here that makes really nice ones. Way better than what you'd buy from any of the dealers. He might still post in one of the for sake areas.
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Orlando76
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After battling a stiff, non-crisp MV1 controller for the past almost 4 years I'm going to attempt removing it again and this time taking it apart, clean, regrease, and hopefully successfully reassemble by sunset tonight so I can ski. This thread will be my bible today so a big THANK-YOU for the thorough instructions and pics. I broke my throttle cable a few months back, replaced both but something wasn't assembled 100% correct on back side of the controller with the cables attached. I done some looking but hadn't found pics yet of the back side assembled with cables attached, I'm sure the pics are out there. Also, I say I have an MV1 but my memory says something was slightly different than theses pics, maybe I'm wrong on the model.... original Morse controller for a '76 Ski Nautique. Thanks again and wish me luck, this has been a downfall on my boat for awhile and hope to smooth it out finally.
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storm34
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While we're not professionals when it comes to these I think it's safe to say we can help you smooth everything out.
I still battled some minor adjustments on mine after cleaning but with the help of Zach and Joe we caught the problem after pulling it off and taking a look at the back. One of the smoothest boats I own now. Upload some pics and we'll do our best to get you skiing tonight. |
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Orlando76
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Chris,
I have a hard posting pics on here but we'll see what happens. I have the controller out and disassembled. Does the little ball come out the sits on the neutral pin? I see it in one of your pics but dont see it out and mine isn't coming out, yet....? |
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storm34
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Todd, it should just be set in and stays in place with some grease. It doesn't take much.
If you have everything apart then give it all a good clean, grease it up and put it all back. My guess is you're having trouble with the plates on the backside where the throttleand trans cables attach. That's where I went wrong. There is a spring that is supposed to assist the cables and I had it backwards. It seemed logical the way I put it together but it took Zach and I looking at another boat to figure it out. Sorry, I don't have pics of this since we were working in the campground on Green Lake! |
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Orlando76
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You're right, the spring on back plate seems wrong. It puts a tight strain on throttle cable the more you increase throttle and no doubt will help break the new cable in same manner as the old cable. BTW the old cable was a newer one so there is a problem here. If i use the spring assembly which i did before, theres no way the throttle cable will fit in the same "swing hinge clamp" as the shift cable fits into. I know this sounds confusing. Ill take some pics when I get the controller reassembled and try posting again.
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phatsat67
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Ok, I made a super cool illustration in the photo below ha.
The Yellow lines signify the throttle cable. The Green line is the gear cable. The red arrows show the movement as the throttle returns to neutral. The spring in the throttle cable track mechanism sits in front of that piece and pushes rearward on it. The reason it does this is because as you move the control forward or rearward towards the gear slots the throttle cable arm has to move also. The reason the mount has a spring and moves along in the track is so that it can compensate for the movement of the throttle are between neutral and in gear so that the throttle cable stays in the "idle" position and doesn't bring the throttle into motion until the boat is already in gear. So if you reverse the direction of the red arrows that would show you the movement into the forward gear position. That picture isn't the best but it shows the MV3 control in the neutral position. |
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Orlando76
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Thanks Zach. That sure appears to be how I have mine set up. My back plate is slightly different than all the ones I've seen on CCF but same concept and lay out. Im trying to upload pics but evidently I have to down size them. I see some medium level wear on my throttle cam and there are some nylon bushings and washers on it that for some reason are no longer flat.
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phatsat67
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Gotcha, just post the pics up and we can get a better idea of what we need to do. I just use the photo editor on my pc to resize. Also if you have an I phone and you select the medium file size when emailing pictures that file size works for CCF.com
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Orlando76
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I have the same question but haven't seen the answer posted yet. All the pics seem to show the throttle lever mounted horizontal facing towards the bow, am I correct? Because this doesnt seem to work for me. Mine only seems to work mounted downward i believe or maybe upward which increases the tight bend in cable which seems to break them. Plus my mounting bracket on the intake is in the original position it has been for many many moons now. Im gonna play with the location of the throttle cable and brackets now, other than that I have controller reassembled, lubed, and installed. BTW, to increase throttle.... the butterfly on throttle body has to go towards the aft of the boat right? |
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Orlando76
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Spent a few hours on it yesterday. Controller feels like butter. Finally got the throttle lever to lay horizontal facing aft. Problem I was having is when 2 PO's ago had Mickey Mouse reinstall the engine after a rebuild, he must've put the "fork" that holds the throttle cable at carb, backwards and on the wrong bolt on intake, preventing WOT. I flipped it around, moved it forward and I now know why my boat didn't have much top end. Wow, the carb really opens up now and I gained some speed and rpms! Thanks for the help.
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