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    Posted: July-15-2010 at 9:15pm
Yes... of all the boats I looked at, and after a few fell through, this was the one that seemed meant to be once I considered it as cliche as that sounds. :)

Very happy with it. It has a few faults that I'm working on (left speedo has the pitot mount broken, the blower motor was shot and was making some awful sounds with turned on, I'm trying to bring the teak in to better condition, the bilge pump won't shut off in auto mode, and the hull has a few knicks and chips missing in front of the spray relief pockets on the port side that I want to fix this winter. Looks like someone drove it up on the fender of the trailer or something at one point. I SURE hope it's water tight. I can see fiberglass so the gel coat is gone in a few spots).

Other than that... it's wonderful! It's turned many heads on the lake, that's for sure.
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Nice looking boat... I'm in Michigan and did see this one on CL too.
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Sweet they are Thanks again Marty.
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           Another Happy Customer!

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Skyway2---Bill

Pics of dash! Got dash plaques for that sweet 91 SN ?
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Nice looking boat. Love the colors!
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Very nice rig there.. Time to go skiing..
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Thats right,you have to have 9/16 for a 9/16.And all these yrs I've tried to figure out the use for 12pt sockets.Doesn't the rachet take care of that?I'm just asking!

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Originally posted by ErikM ErikM wrote:



if you could do me one favor though... and try a 14mm wrench on a 9/16 bolt sometime. just for fun. cheers!!



sorry been there done that years ago, a 13mm is enterchangable with a 1/2 wrench also an 18mm is enterchangable with a 3/4 wrench other than that it doesn't work, but then if your getting cheap undersized fasteners from china might work, but all the american stuff I've worked on your SOL.
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Very nice boat, Skyway! Looks like you know how to enjoy it.
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Hello all,

As requested, here are some pics of my new baby. :) I'm sorry, I didn't get any pics when I took my two brothers skiing. They are all of my friends and I going tubing. haha, I know how tubing is looked upon in this forum, but at least you get to see my new-to-me beautiful boat. :)












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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

Originally posted by ErikM ErikM wrote:

if it is 9/16.... then everybody is a winner!!!!(9/16=14mm)


NO actually a 14mm is smaller and the difference is greater than the tolerance allowed, so unless the 9/16 bolt is used on an exhaust mainfold and the bolt head as shrunk your not using a 14mm wrench on a 9/16 BTW



I stand corrected... mathematically.


if you could do me one favor though... and try a 14mm wrench on a 9/16 bolt sometime. just for fun. cheers!!

and yah... LETS SEE SOME PICS!!
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An adjustable fits everything!
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Originally posted by ErikM ErikM wrote:

if it is 9/16.... then everybody is a winner!!!!(9/16=14mm)


NO actually a 14mm is smaller and the difference is greater than the tolerance allowed, so unless the 9/16 bolt is used on an exhaust mainfold and the bolt head as shrunk your not using a 14mm wrench on a 9/16 BTW
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Congrats on the boat purchase. post pics.
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if it is 9/16.... then everybody is a winner!!!!(9/16=14mm)
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michiel200,

I decided to go with another boat on my short list. I bought a yellow and black '91 SN out of the Detroit area. I already put over 6 hours on it over two days skiing and tubing with family.

SO happy I bought a SN... awesome boat!
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Hi Skyway2k,

How was the boat?
As clean as advertised?
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From the website of Colorado State University:

Which countries, besides the U.S., are still using primarily the inch-pound system?

According to a survey taken many years ago, the only countries, besides the U.S., that have not officially adopted the metric system are Liberia and Burma.

Most other countries have either used the metric system for many years, or have adopted the metric system within the last 30 or 40 years.Although nearly every country has taken steps to replace traditional measurements, the fact remains that among countries with non-metric usage the U.S. is the only significant holdout.


We have a perfectly good measuring system, so why does the U.S. have to change to using the metric system?

We are living in a metric world where just about every country, except the USA, uses the metric system, and other countries are now telling us that they don't want to buy some of the products manufactured by U.S. companies if they aren't made to metric sizes (and if they aren't labeled in metric units).

Many European Union (EU) countries, which have been good customers of U.S. companies, don't allow products into their countries unless they are made to metric system standards. We must operate in the world marketplace, and we can't stay competitive if we don't provide metric goods.

With 99% of the rest of the world using metric, there is no chance we can persuade them to use our inches and pounds.
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wiki a very good source for bad informatiom, so if you like being wrong quite often......
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Checked Wiki:

"According to the US CIA World Factbook in 2006, the International System of (metric) Units is the official system of measurement for all nations except for Burma, Liberia, and the United States. In the United States, metric units are widely used in science, military, and industry, but customary units predominate in household use."

So you're in good company. And CC's are only to use around the house.;-)
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9/16 for the lag bolts holding the motor mounts on might be 5/8 but pretty sure 9/16 is right.
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That would be a first- I have yet to see a metric sized fastener used on a CC!
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As far as I can remember 14 or 15 mm
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Thanks for the response! Can you tell me size socket or wrench is typically needed for those bolts?

Thanks!
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5. Tighten all bolts which are screwn in the stringers (do they still bite?)

6. Check if you can notice any vibrations in the floor at various speeds (prop/prop shaft/trans)
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Alright, just to follow up with this post, I have some additional questions for you all. All the other boats (about 4) that I have been checking on have all been busts or they are out of my price range for what I feel they are worth.

I have been in conversation with the seller and have made arrangements to meet up on Thursday to hear the boat run. He has told me that the boat was properly winterized before being stored in his garage and he just hasn't had the funds to put it on the lake the last 2 1/2 summers. I want to make sure that I get the most of this meeting. What are some of the things I should be looking for? I'm going to try to bring my mentor from my engine building days in racing. Some of the things I have thought about checking while there:

1. Run the engine - the safest way possible to listen for funky noises and check for leaks. (Can we just disconnect the RW intake hose from the hull and put a garden hose in to run it at idle?)

2. To check the trans, is it safe to put it in fwd and reverse for just a second each to check for proper trans function? I realize you don't want to do this because of the shaft bearing, but just to check for prop movement so I know the trans isn't a complete turd, is this okay?

3. I was going to pull the dipstick to check for any milkshake oil signs on the stick. I know my engine builder mentor would probably like to cut the oil filter and check for bearing or other debris in the filter element. Do you think this is a reasonable request if we bring a new oil filter with us to swap for him? Speaking of which, can someone give me the oil filter part numbers for this engine? (PCM 351)

4. If everything checks out and no funny noises are coming from the engine, fluids are not leaking everywhere, and there isn't a bunch of junk in the oil filter, wouldn't it be safe to assume that this is at least a runner and not a dud? If the trans engages in both fwd and reverse with no funny noises coming from it, is it at least safe to say it's worth a go if the boat is a steal for its condition?


I'm always a firm believer in first impressions. The first impressions I have gotten from this boat is that it has been VERY meticulously taken care of on the outside from all the high res pics I got from my parents. The hull still shines like new, the interior is flawless, the carpet looks new. Everything looks like it just rolled out of Midwest CC back in 1992. I understand the risks of a pre-93 boat with the wood stringers, but if I can get this for a LOT less money than all the others I have looked at, wouldn't it be worth it if I get 5 to 10 summers on it?

Any help from you guys would be tremendously helpful. Our meeting is on Thursday so I am going to put together a list.

Thank you!
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One last thing... I got clarification that they were not the spark plugs that were removed... it was the plugs from the bottom of the boat that were removed. He said something about plugs being out and my dad must have thought me meant the spark plugs.

He said he has all the maintenance documentation and that when I come to look at the boat we could get it running. But I'm like everyone else, I'd rather have a 93 or newer.
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Thanks to everyone for the responses!!!
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