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63CCSN
Groupie Joined: September-02-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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In my state the trailer has to be titled and the title shows the year the trailer was made -- it was just a thought at confirming the year of the boat above without a hull number.
By way of reference, the hull ID on my 63 is SN121?. I can't make out the last number, however based on the number range SN12-"something", I spoke with Correct Craft and gave them the number, they confirmed that my boat was probably made in late 1962 as part of the first production run for model year 1963 and my hull left the factory early in 1963 as a "1963 model year boat". The man I spoke with told me that Correct Craft made 17 Ski Nautique hulls sold as model year 1963 (1963 production actually began in July of 1962). Records for hulls sold as model year 1962 are not at the Correct Craft factory (lost?). I spoke with Leo Bentz by phone. He told me that he produced 12 boats between 1960 -1961. Making 3 hulls at a time when he had orders for the boats. In late 1961 he sold the name and mold to Correct Craft. Correct Craft began making them in 1962. 3 of the 17 hulls made as model year 1963 went to Leo Bentz's ski school. Leo went on to say that the early boats up to the end of 63 had wooden motor boxes, painted the same color as the deck and that the motor boxes had a low profile that was level with the top/back of the front bench seat. So what is a good guess at the number of hulls made in 62? Less than 20 and a good guess for the total number of Ski Nautique hulls made from 1960 to 1963 is what 45 or 50? I'd love to know the exact number of hulls made as model year '62 and arrive at a exact number of '60 to '63 hulls. By the way Leo told me that a guy named Bob Cleary owns the first Ski Nautique that Leo produced. I'm going to try and get in touch with Bob. Talking with Leo was a really great experience! |
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Riley
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JIH's boat would be a nice boat to snag.
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nautique frk
Platinum Member Joined: February-16-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1784 |
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63CCSN,
I have a 1964 Ski Nautique that I purchased in GA. I also had contacted Leo a few years ago and he sent me copies of all of the things he still had. I have posted them in the refernce section under 1961. My 64 has the fiberglass divider and wooden motor box Top deck is Turquoise sides are white and has Interceptor 210hp 289 V8 engine. |
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63CCSN
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nautique frk,
Leo is great to talk to! I saw the stuff you posted in the reference section. It's great! Thank you for putting it up there. Do you have pictures of your 64 you could email me? In particular the engine and the interior? I PM-ed you. Thanks! |
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p/allen
Gold Member Joined: March-14-2006 Location: Dixon Illinois Status: Offline Points: 942 |
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Mike those are some fabulous pictures and documents to the start of a fantastic boat .I am glad that some one was able to aquire copies of them before they were lost forever .
I go to a lot of auctions and see a lot of stuff that gets thrown away or neglected . I often wonder if there is any historical value in any of it . Great find ! |
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Barracuda
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Quick update on the 66:
I spent a little time last week with the old girl. Started cleaning out the inside. It was basically a giant squirrels nest/ squirrels swimming pool due to a plugged drain hole. The floor is a giant sponge as you can all imagine. I ripped out the remaining carpet, sets, old life vests, ladder and anthing else that wasn't nailed down. Removed most of the acorns and chestnuts from the bilge. On to the engine and transmission. It's the original 260 V8 with a 2 bbl carb and Velvet Drive 1:1. The engine is in very rough shape and it's not likely to ever run again, but I'll do my best to give it a fighting chance. It's not clear if it was ever properly winterized and with the amount of water that had accumulated in the boat, the damage done is most likely fatal. I spent half a can of PB Blaster just soaking down any bolt/ moving part/ linkage/ etc. Pulled each spark plug- 7 of the 8 plugs looked good and no water. The 8th (#4 cyl) had water in it. Rear most freeze plugs were popped. Removed all water from oil pan and #4 cyl. I took all the random quarts of oil I had been collecting over the years and dumped it in through the valve cover fill. The transmission might actually be okay. Even though it was mostly submerged for God knows how long, it did not appear to take on any water. At least it thats the way it looked from the dipstick reading. Still some nice red tranny fluid in there. Pumped that out and filled to the brim with new fluid. Removed the linkage and freed up the shifter mechanism. Prop shaft turns freely. Removed the belts and freed up the circ pump and raw water pump. Next I'll fill each cyl with MM oil and let sit for a couple weeks. Then put a breaker bar to the crank nut and see what happens. If it spins without too much grinding and moaning, then I'll put a starter to it and see what happens. Well- that's all for now -Brad |
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p/allen
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Great way to start . I hope the little orphan roars to life. So she can feel and be loved again and not just kicked to the curb with no hopes of a better life .
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Gary S
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Auto trans fluid works well to free up an engine I've been told,something to do with the additives.My boat had been sunk before I got it,the engine was locked up but the engine oil and trans oil had been changed but never run.The input shaft of the trans rusted and damaged the seal when I started it.Ended up using a speedi sleeve like these, http://www.chicago-rawhide.com.au/Products/speedi.htm
and had no problem since. |
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Barracuda
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Thanks for the tip Gary. An old timer once told me that Marvel Mystery Oil is pretty much just ATF.
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TRBenj
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Yup, ATF has more detergents than motor oil. |
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Barracuda
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Guys- Here's a quick update on the Mustang rescue:
After a lot of driving around, swapping parts and answering questions from the local PD , the Mustang is finally perched on an original Correct Craft trailer. The trailer is a little big for the small Mustang and will need a couple mods (guide posts, bow stop), but I think it looks pretty dang sweet! Old trailer: (now for sale!) New Trailer: (from Tim's Freeport, aka the green monster) Hot Rod setup: Picked up a complete Interceptor engine a couple weeks ago that I hope will make a good power plant for the Mustang. Will start tearing into the engine tomorrow. Will post pics after tomorrow's progress. That's all for now. -Brad |
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Riley
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Looks good Brad. I really like the color of that boat. You need to get it washed, waxed and get that boot stripe off it.
I just got back from snooping around western York County this morning and found these 2 that need rescueing. |
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8122pbrainard
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Brad, The trailer really doesn't really look that large for the boat to me. Maybe a couple inches narrower would be nice. Hows the tongue weight?
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TRBenj
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The proportions look just right, dont they Pete? I'm really digging the look. Bruce, I would appreciate it if you took down the picture of that red Mustang before I get the notion to follow up about it. Thanks. Brad, Im going to take a look at those trailer wheels on the galvanized trailer tomorrow. I may be in the market for a set of steelies that would look original on a late 60's/early 70's #2 trailer (like under the red boat Bruce posted). |
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Riley
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Tim, I was thinking of you when I looked at the red boat. It's got the 1970 style steering wheel.
I couldn't tell you what year it is as it has mixed characteristics between the early and late 60's. |
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8122pbrainard
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The blue one looks like we found another non yellow Torino!! |
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Riley
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Probably right, Pete. It looks 70's and I that's the only VD they made back then isn't it? It didn't interest me enough to trudge through the snow. I like the below waterline extensions.
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eric lavine
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Pete, my tarp guy brought me a Timken V-drive that was sitting in his garage, all my years...never seen one like this, it has 2 flanges and is heavier than some of the 2:30am leftovers, Timken is casted on the side and i would say it is somewhere from the 60's or so, i think it does say crusader on it.
Ideas keep going thru my head as to what im going to do with it. any memories of what boat company or anything you may know about it? eric |
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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eric lavine
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white PVC????fill me in, dont say for water cause he could have brought the tarp down lower
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Riley
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Eric, I'd say they are to quiet the engine down, so you don't have the hear that through hull exhaust.
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eric lavine
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are those are permanent?, or are they for running in the drive? if the boat was in NC i wouldnt think twice, but Maine? lol
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Barracuda
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Pete, you're right. It would be ideal if the bunks were narrowed up by about 3 inches on each side. The tounge weight is perfect where it currently sits (not quite up to the bow stop). I loaded it up and them bumped it forward a few times till it was right where I wanted it. It may just be those fancy rims, but I think it looks fast just sitting still on the trailer Bruce- It definitely needs some wax, among other things |
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8122pbrainard
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Can't help on this one! I thought you've mentioned the Crusader before? Was it when talking to Geno on his Torino/Spoiler/Separator? Speaking of which - Geno, what's going on with the boat?? Eric, Isn't this a Crusader? Not much of a picture - sorry! |
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reidp
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Bruce, you know me and light blue. That Torino-looking mess has my eye. So when does the snow melt enough to eliminate the trudging? Those exh silencers tell me it was a conservative owner who rarely got on plane but who never mastered docking or the use of fenders. So is it really for sale? I'm definitely interested in selling something in order to get a nice Torino. Just not that many out there.
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skicat
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Reid, selling something. I thought you just added more to the stable!
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reidp
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Sounds good Greg, but married life for me is just too fun. And inexpensive.
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62 wood
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Reid,
Its probably one of those ugly "Bat-mobile" looking things... You wouldnt want that.. would you? |
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Riley
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Reid, I don't know if it's for sale or not. It was parked in the woods along with the Mustang, an old outboard and a junked mobile home on a camp road leading to a small lake. If you're interested, I follow up on it in a week or two. The snow should be gone in a couple weeks. I'd call the pvc piping woodchuck mufflers.
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8122pbrainard
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I think the PVC is just on there for winter storage to keep the rodents from getting in. I just can't picture it being run on the lake like that. Driveway ? maybe if he has close neighbors that are complainers!
Steve, I may be wrong as I only thought the Torino was made in yellow but I thought the Separator (batmobile windshields) only came in white. So Reid, You what to see how a 351 H/M V drive CC runs against the Donzi!!!! |
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p/allen
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I would say that boat is not a Torino style . It looks to me to be more along the lines of a Southwind . The side of the boat looks taller at the back compared to the torino .
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