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jterr
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Hey All,
Need a pic of how the coil is mounted on engine 83 PCM. Actually the mount also. I checked my 79 but it is on the opposite side, manifolds don't look the same. Thanks |
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jterr
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The ignition tech said the MSD wouldn't work with there conversion so I guess I need to just go get a standard coil.
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jterr
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Now I'm really cornfused.
I have the MSD coil and directions say to add a 0.8 ohm resister. I read up on the electronic ignition conversion kit and it says to use a 1.4 ohm ballast resister. |
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8122pbrainard
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John, An alternate to resistance is to check voltage in and out of the ballast resistor. If you get your neighbor over, have him give you some pointers on using the VOM. Voltage and resistance testing is a great method of troubleshooting problems. If you don't have a VOM, I suggest getting one. A basic one is around $20 plus you can use it on the car and even the house. |
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jterr
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For now just wanted to crank engine to check out rebuilt carb. I'll get my neighbor over he understands the ohm thing. Thanks |
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8122pbrainard
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John, Is it broken? It looks like the engine was hooked up to one ballast resistor so, it may be good however the Ohm meter will tell you for sure. Keep in mind as stated previously, you need to follow the wiring directions of the EI conversion you plan on using. |
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jterr
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Forgot about the broken resistor, will engine run/start without it?
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jterr
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Thanks I corrected my mind..... this boat and engine is about to blow it |
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JoeinNY
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Its a coil not a distributor and if it ain't broke I wouldnt fix it |
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jterr
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Another Question. Should I keep this MSD coil or go back to the original?
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KENO
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Joe Your pump is kinda plain looking , gray and unpainted bronze or is it clear coated cast iron and bronze, you should really do something about that. We'll let Pete pick the color scheme for ya |
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jterr
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Got it, I couldn't tell in my photo (before repaint) the right direction.
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KENO
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It's a good thing you post pictures JT, since you can notice all kinds of stuff looking at them. In the picture above , my keen finely trained eye can see that your pump isn't ever gonna pump water. Why's that you ask? You have a RH rotation engine and the pump is installed right now for a LH rotation engine since the screw head can't be seen.. If you look at the picture below courtesy of somebody on CCF, you can see the screw head on the pump facing outboard and you can see how the hoses are hooked up and oriented too. That's how your's should be hooked up. Suction on the bottom, discharge on the top and the screw head pointing outboard. Clearance between the pump pulley and the big hose is pretty tight |
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jterr
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[QUOTE=KENO] [QUOTE=8122pbrainard]
But I'm a terrible painter and would rather have one made that color. /QUOTE] Send it to me I'll paint it. |
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jterr
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Just putting on more hoses and seem to have problem-see pic
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gt40KS
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Hmmm... this post has taken an interesting turn. I'm still waiting to hear certain comments from Pete and Ken.
But for the record John, I like what you've done so far |
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jterr
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Thanks Yea the paint came from Wally World and it is Rustoleum. I even got Blue plug wires (didn't know till I opened the box).
If the Distributor cap was black would probably have left the same but that Tan just looked awful |
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KENO
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But I'm a terrible painter and would rather have one made that color. Besides, I'd probably have to touch up the cap if it got chipped and ugly looking Or maybe I'd go and paint the plug wires too. I guess I could stick with black caps and filters and wires |
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8122pbrainard
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KENO
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JT You must be the only person that ever painted his distributor cap to match his oil filter. If that cap came that color, post the part number, I just gotta have one of those |
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GottaSki
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Nice!
I'm getting creative on mine as well |
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
River Rat to Mole |
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jterr
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Update:
Engine painted and almost back together, still have to rebuild carb. Go GATORS!! |
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KENO
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Don't sweat it JT. That distributor was used up till 86 or so and will drop right into your engine. Don't know what electronic kit you might be looking at but if it's a Pertronix, the part number for the clipdown cap is 91581 for the Ignitor 2 or 1581 for the plain old Ignitor. The Ignitor 2 is an improved version of the original There's not much else that's still available for that distributor these days. And..............you can ditch the ballast resistor{s} like said earlier by bfootr And..............you won't make Pete proud, but that's OK |
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jterr
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OK I need some advice here..
FYI-The boat I'm working on is a 1983 SN with a PCM 351w. Earlier in a post I found the motor to be a 1994 block. I bought a new Prestolite distributor not paying attention to the year. Now when I started looking for the electronic ignition it is asking for year. Should I just be buying parts as a 83 motor or a 94 motor? Will parts interchange and work? I hope I haven't messed up big time.... |
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gt40KS
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I applied a couple of coats of clear engine enamel on all of my 'raw' metal parts, except for the screens as Ken suggested. This keeps them from looking dull and corroded in a couple of years. |
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JCCI
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bfootr
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I just changed my 89 SN to electronic ignition (using Pertronix Ignitor II). Instructions were to bypass the resistor which I did. Works great!
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8122pbrainard
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John, It depends on who's EI conversion you use. Follow their directions. |
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jterr
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A question on ignition. If I change to the electronic module on distributor do I need those resistors mounted on rear of engine?
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jterr
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Decided not to piaint.
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KENO
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I suppose you can do whatever you want to I don't think I'd be painting any spark arrestor screens though. |
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