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SNobsessed
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Does the .o2 stickout interfere with the other coupler?
If so, why not just grind it flush? Seems like that would be a lot less work. You can check runout with the coupler on. |
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The shaft and coupler are 40 years old at best estimate. The coupler is not seated flush with end of shaft at this time, about .20 overhang of the coupler.
Specific question for forum members: Is a 40 yr old shaft and coupler a concern and should I just invest in new shaft and coupler? Or Shaft and coupler are timeless and I should pull coupler, make sure shaft is true and re-set coupler assuming the heat coupler in the oven is preferred method. Thank for your advice. |
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ArtCozier
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Lol! Anyone who knows what a Whale Pump is must have been in boating for a lo-o-ong time! |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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John, What specifically are you concerned with the existing shaft? What's not set correctly? The alignment? |
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8122pbrainard
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Broken down as an engine failure or broken down as a big hole in the boat? If the engine quits, there's always a paddle. If there's a big hole in the boat, then there are life preservers! If you carry a Whale pump, then you must ether be prone to hitting things or are out in a boat that's not is very good shape. |
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Gary S
Grand Poobah Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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They just wait until the sun goes down and the water freezes again and then just walk home Art.
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Hey Pete, what do you do if you have only a siphon bailer and you are broken down in the middle of the lake? I suggest a Whale pump for a backup!
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Inspected the shaft. Seems to not be set correctly. The historic sales receipts indicate it was purchased in 1978. 40'x1'.
recommendations? Pull and reset? Go with a new shaft set-up? |
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Winterized and pulled motor. Inspected the strut and is square to hull. Cutlas bearing is a 4" seated aft on strut. Seems to allow for some play with shaft laying on lower side of log. I will plan to replace. Is 4" bearing the proper setup? I see 2" and 6" bearings available.
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A couple of other pics to give you an idea what I have. It looks to be 1/4 Sales Brochure ( I have all the original sale paperwork) identifies the construction Thanks for the help, as I want to attempt to replace to original specs next year. |
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Jack,
The deck is 1/4" but the fore deck where it overhangs aft into the cockpit is doubled up with two layers of 1/4". John, Note that I stated "temporary" for the patch. You will need to get several coats of spar varnish on the deck and filler. |
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juniorwoody
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Must be coming into some good weather. As Pete says the patch will work great short term. Was there no detail routed into the 1956 on the deck, I wonder. Also I noticed that it looks to be 3/8 plywood on there. Is that true. That's what ours has. At some point they went to 1/4 unless both of ours have been replaced along the way.
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Not really but for a temporary until you put some new ply on the deck, I's go with original Famowood. |
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For this year I am hoping to patch the deck problem areas and then do the new ply next fall/winter.
Is there a good way to patch the deck areas? |
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I have it
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Not a big fan of those auto balers Pete. Like to hear what others feel about them. Considering leaving mine out on the 1950.
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John,
Here's the siphon bailer you should have. |
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John,
Welcome to posting. I've caught you on site a couple times. Your screen name drew my attention and I was wondering when we'd see something from you. #2 - Some older marine engines didn't have T stats so it takes some time for them to warm up. What you are getting is normal. #3 - You should not need a 12 volt jump to crank that engine. Check the condition of your battery, the battery cables and their terminations. #5&6 - From the picture, it does look like the deck will need new ply at some time. When you dig into it, that's the time to get the glass off the transom and replace the ply there. #8 - You should have a siphon bailer near the transom typically on the port side. They do work but if your hull is in good condition like you have said, it shouldn't be needed. I do not have a bilge pump in my Atom. A ply boat doesn't leak if it's sound. Keep the pictures coming as well as any questions you may have. |
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New to the forum but have used it as a reference for the last couple of years. Thank You!
I have a 1956 Atom Skier, the original owner was my dad and friend. The friend handed the boat over to my brother in 1990. I now have taken over the project of rehab and hope to do an inaugural launch next summer. Goal 1 is to have it run and give the grandkids a ride around the lake. Goal 2 is to attend some boat shows when I retire in 10 years pending my kid's college expense. I am not a mechanic or carpenter, I'm a high school principal who likes to tinker on projects. I', open to buying quality and learning how to install myself. Just don't want to break anything. Boat looks in pretty good shape, but I would like to have you veterans ask questions or advise me to consider items of priority. General comments and pics to give you an idea of the scope of the project: 1. The boat floats with only leak coming in through drive shaft log. I repacked it. 2. The engine now runs, with concern the temp gauge does not move until I have it up to 2500 RPMs. Have not aligned the drive shaft to the engine yet. 3. Original 6-volt system, generator, wire harness. I have to start it with a 12-volt jump, but it runs fine, and generator pushes amps at 12/14 ohms 4. Outside hull has been repainted recently 5. Nothing was done with top deck, considering repairs or replace? 6. Back transom was glassed by my dad after several years of water ski action. 7. Original trailer now has new wheels and bearings 8. I think I need to instal a bilge run off a separate 12-volt system. |
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