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desertskier
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Frankenotter
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Haha. Really? Hex key and everything?
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desertskier
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I got some from my local ACE hardware.
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Frankenotter
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Does anyone know where to get new set screws for the cutlass bearing? I had to drill mine out and I can't seem to find any info on where to find new ones. I can check McMaster when I get home to measure but I was hoping someone had a quick source?
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OldSchoolBlue84
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TRBenj
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Pete probably hasn't inspected a cc strut newer than an early 70's... that's about the last boats I remember seeing a 4" bushing in a 6" body. They've been full length for some time. When replacing, it's common to put the 2 smaller halves front and rear with a gap in the middle. It sounds like leaving a gap at the front is ok too.
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8122pbrainard
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Chris,
The 4" is common, plenty to handle the load. and in fact, I've never seen a 6" used by CC. If you found a 6" in the strut, I suspect it was changed by a PO or CC ran out of the 4's. |
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Frankenotter
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I was able to get the old cutlas out of the 176 toady using the homemade puller.
I ordered a new cutlas based on the rough dimension from deep blue yacht supply. It was only today that I noticed I need a 6" cutlass and I ordered a 4". The price jumps considerably as well. It goes from $50 to $75 not including shipping. Word of warning you those "would be warriors" of the garage. 6" is better than 4. |
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TRBenj
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That's the best option going that I am aware of. Maybe check with general propeller on their dual taper shafts too? Believe they supply cc as oem these days. I would wait on the promo shaft until the motor is set. Doing so will allow you to fine tune the length, they tended to be pretty long. When dialing in length, i'd aim for 1/2" or a little less clearance between the prop and strut. Do the same on the 176 now while you have the chance!
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SNobsessed
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Ouch!
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Frankenotter
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So.............update on the shafts.
I got a call back from my machine shop. Apparently both the 176 shaft and the promo shaft are out of tolerance by more than .015". They tried to square them up but every time they corrected one section, another would go out. Any ideas before I call SkiDim? Anyone know of discounts on A.R.E.? Looking at $380 a piece with the 10% CCF discount. |
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skutsch
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Pete: nope the guy who told me how great they worked is a good friend of this site. He lives in Indy, said they had one at his old place of employment. He said they used it all the time. Made changing cutlass bearings a quick simple job. Pretty sure this guy wasn't trying to sell me one...
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8122pbrainard
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Steve, The person that told you how well they work, was he trying to sell it?? It's not easy to make a tool that only has .030 of brass wall thickness to press against! They work a couple times and then the mandrel needs to be refaced. Notice Jody doesn't even use one!!!!! |
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I'll ante-up for the Utah group...
JQ |
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I'll throw in for the Chicago group. |
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OldSchoolBlue84
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I am with yea Tim |
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TRBenj
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Strut bushing replacement? Hard pressed? C'mon guys.
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Anybody want to make an investment in a StrutPro? We could then rent it out to anyone on the site for $25 plus shipping. Take a while to make the money back but apparently these things works slicker then snot!!!
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8122pbrainard
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Chris, I didn't get Tim's attempt at a joke ether. Must be that northeast humor! |
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Frankenotter
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Is that a bad pun or a reference to the validity of calling these things bearings? In true CCF fashion we get 4 different answers!!! |
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TRBenj
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Love my OJ Vesconite bearings... I'd be hard pressed to go with the conventional bushings.
^^note cutlass bearing joke^^ |
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Duane in Indy
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Deltaprop.com one of our sponsors has bearings. They show 1" shaft with 1 1/4 OD which is what mine is. Go2Marine does not list my size.
DeepBlueYatchSupply show multiple bearings with 1" ID and various lengths I used one piece with proper length. |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
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8122pbrainard
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I've gotten mine at Go2Marine. Better pricing as well. I also stick with the traditional one piece. I feel it gives you better radial support at the aft end of the strut where it's needed from the radial loading from the prop. |
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Ski-DIM has always given me excellent customer support.
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While waiting for the shaft to return, what is the favorite place to order cutlas bearings?
2 piece? 1 piece? |
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SWANY
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I looked at the wrong size on skidim
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SWANY
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Wow, I won't be hitting any logs anytime soon. Just looked the current price up
Looked up my receipt from almost 2 years ago, figured it was about same price. Paid $375 plus $29 for shipping. That might sway my decision too |
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Frankenotter
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Hahah. If I went that route it would be $900+ for sure. I'm doing this for 2 boats. |
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SWANY
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Your a better man than me, I would be on to some other project while waiting for a nice new for sure straight and easy install shaft to arrive at my front door. |
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