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8122pbrainard
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Well, not retired yet, I'm always up early, no work today and the wife is still sleeping so I don't want to work on the house, but here is the place. Sweetwater lumber Trevor, The 6/4 doesn't need to be surfaced. Just take the belt sander to it and knock off the high spots and fuzzes. .If you really want it surfaced, you would need to go with 8/4 and run it through the planer. Do route the tops with a radius to make the glass lay down easier. If you go the LVL route, keep in mind the thickness is 1 &3/4" so the width between the stringers needs adjusting. Just put the extra thickness to the outside. |
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Morfoot
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I went digging into his thread a couple days ago to see if could find his source but couldn't find it. I didn't read every page though. Maybe someone whose retired can do such. We seem to have a few of those retirees around here with nothing better to do! Nautiquehunter did a Supra comp restore a couple years so I'll give him a shout to see where he got his wood from to help a fellow Georgian out. |
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+1 john |
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Gary S
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Where did Greg get the wood for the pumpkin?
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8122pbrainard
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Trevor,
Any lumber yard plus HD can get you the LVL. No one stocks it because of all the different sizes and lengths! ( you can get it up to 50' long) Our little HD store up here will get it in one to two days max. You order the length needed, the warehouse cuts it to length and then it's shipped to the store/lumber yard. |
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MechGaT
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I had the best luck at a local builder supply. I found a company that supplies them and could get the Douglas fir. I then had to tell the local place that they could get it from their supplier.
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SNobsessed
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Pete can help with HD, he's on the inside!
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Tfreeman
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I didn't consider the pro counter at the depot. The HD website was saying unavailable for purchase (including ordering) within 100 miles of my zip code, I'll stop by and double check tho.
Budget does not allot for coosa |
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TRBenj
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Lvl = microlam, no?
Coosa deserves some consideration but it's more spendy (figure $1k upcharge over wood) and requires some additional process and design considerations. Stringers are usually multi-layer laminations, major pieces (cradle) need to be through bolted, etc. it's great stuff and easy to work with but it complicates things a little- so it'll slow you down a bit. |
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Dreaming
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home depot should be able to order you LVL, but you may have to go to the pro counter instead of just looking on the shelves. I forget what the trade name is for it but I have used it as a ledger board in the past, and am pretty sure we got it at the HD.
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Tfreeman
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I CANT FIND LUMBER
I have been able to locate Douglas fir in a rough cut 6/4x6" at $6.40 a foot. As far as that goes I can pick it up Wednesday morning when I get off work, it's about 5 minutes from my station. That puts it at 1.5" thick before it sees the planer. So this won't work, correct? I can't locate LVL. My neighbor that's helping me out did his own laminate for the main stringer in his palm beach. Anyway, I got a main out today in 1 "whole" piece. |
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Tfreeman
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Thanks for the compliments, i really didn't know how to build the thing, so it came about with 2 5'x4' Dolly's that I ended up joining together. It rolls fairly well even with the small casters.
Her car will only be inside when I'm not working on the boat. We made an agreement when we moved in, that I can do as I please with the garage but she wanted to park inside, then we bought this car new, so she is particular. I imagine it will still spend a handful of nights outside throughout the project, no big deal. I'll just pull it in at night when I wrap up the day's work. My schedule allows me a lot of days off while she's working, plenty of time for the boat. Any comments on stringer materials? I've read about Coosa and fir. Has anyone done long leaf pine treated with the cpes? I'm about half an hour west of Atlanta. |
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8122pbrainard
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Trevor,
I sure agree with Tim! When you start grinding out the hull, make sure you get your wife's car out of the garage. Trust me, I've been there when I didn't and I still hear about it! |
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TRBenj
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Wow that's a nice dolly.
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Tfreeman
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Made a little progress this week, I had a subpoena for a court case in which I was a call in witness. I was on call for a week starting Monday, luckily I was not called in, but progress was slow at the beginning of the week. Idk if I mentioned it earlier, but this is NOT a full or original restore, so things are going to be changed to fit my needs. That being said I added a couple pairs of pop up cleats and added a flip up anchor light to the wake tower. Removed the tower and swim platform, test fit the length in my garage and my wife and I had our first ultrasound for our first child coming at the end of August.
Then over the cours of Thursday and Friday, I got the boat off the trailer and on a dolly, and in its resting place in the garage. The wife will have her spot in the garage for most nights, assuming things aren't curing or something and preventing me from moving it. Goal for Monday is to at least source whatever lumber I decide to use, and potentially order it and the first bit of epoxy/glass. I'd also like to start with some of the removal of a stringer, I think I'll be doing one at a time to keep the reference points (or whatever is left of them) |
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SNobsessed
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Kinda like a mattress, always dips in the middle, never near the end!
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Tfreeman
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Thanks. So based on your comment, the hulls deform more like a "U" from bow to stern vs side to side?
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SNobsessed
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Great looking garage!
I think other guys have just put timbers from ground up to stringer areas, esp midship. (after taking load off trailer springs). |
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Tfreeman
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I have had a busy couple of days, knocking out projects in order to be prepared to really get started on this project. I spent yesterday spreading gravel in the beautiful 70* sunny weather. It turned out nice and will be the permanent spot for my boat and pressure washer trailer.
I'm expecting the gravel to match once the dust is worked off from the weather. The darker stuff has been down for about a month while I prepared the 2nd half. Today I organized the toolboxes and got the rest of the boat stuff into the basement for storage. All this cleared up the work space and let me see what I've got to work with. The blue handled concrete spreader is placed on the floor at 7' from the toolboxes. If I put the boat on a moveable dolly, the wife can use her spot to park at night. Of course the rest of the junk will be moved. EDIT: I guess I didn't share this before. Sometime around here I also cut out the floor and got the foam cleaned out. END EDIT I guess now I'm looking for ideas and advise on building a dolly, and bracing the boat to keep its shape as ive seen mentioned on other threads. I have a few ideas for the dolly, but I don't really know where to begin with the bracing. Have a good weekend every one, Falcons rise up. |
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Hollywood
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x2. If you identify an opportunity for improvement certainly take it. |
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Dreaming
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In the photos of several engine compartments, the strainers are visible... they vary in location though some right, some left, some further up than the others. Since this was an optional part (per Hollywood) it was probably left to whomever could run a screwdriver and connect the hose to install as they liked the best. I am not sure there is rhyme or reason to each installed location. I had to remove mine on my previous 82 to get the filter off too... I only did it once, but would have relocated it to a better location during the rebuild.
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Tfreeman
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I guess I was trying to find out about the way they are mounted to the engine cradle. The fuel filter housing had two long lag bolts running in to the stringer and is too low to thread on the filter with out loosening the bracket.
And the strainer appeared to me like the previous owner tried to catch the rear-most engine cradle bolt and an extra screw, but failed at that. |
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Hollywood
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Factory optional Vetus pool strainer and also Fram cartridge fuel filter/water separator. I would stick with the updated spin on fuel filter/separator and would also update the sea water strainer.
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Tfreeman
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Is this strainer something from the factory? The mount was loose and it just doesn't seem quite right to me.
Also I didn't take a pic, but the previous owner swapped the fuel Filter over to a different type of screw on filter. I'm guessing it's in the factory location (on the engine cradle below the fuel pump) because of the marks under the housing from something previously mounted there. Does anyone have a photo of the factory fuel filter in its original location? |
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Gary S
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thats great,some parts are getting hard to come by and thats one of them.
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Tfreeman
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Nope it rode on a tire. With the mounts on it.
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Gary S
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Hope you didn't set that engine down in the truck bed sitting on the oil pan. If you did you will soon find out how unobtanium they are.
You need to build a frame out of 2x6's so that it sits on the motor mounts just like it's in the boat----- |
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Tfreeman
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SNobsessed
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Get the engine & pylon back into the same place they started & the other points should fall into place.
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Tfreeman
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Thanks for the input I'm taking notes.
Today I pulled the rudder, prop and disconnected everything I think I needed to pull the motor. I'm on duty tomorrow so it's coming out before the Falcons play Saturday. Pulled the floor in front of the motor box and raked out the wet foam. The stringers are all soft mushy and wet. I accidentally vaccumed some of one out with the shop vac. Does anyone have a descent list of measurements I should take down? Or is the engine cradle my main concern? Thanks |
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