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    Posted: August-20-2015 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

N3's parts section is STILL down and STILL sucks a big one.

Speaking of N3, where has Zach been lately?


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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Ok, and then when I grab the drop down menu there is text on top of text. Garbage.


Then try this link. It seems to work better.

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Ok, and then when I grab the drop down menu there is text on top of text. Garbage.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

N3's parts section is STILL down and STILL sucks a big one.


Need to click on the N3 Board Shop link then use the drop down to get to the parts shop. Rather rinky-dink if you ask me. The Parts Shop link displays a page that tells you the Online Parts Shop is coming soon. Been this way for as long as I can remember. I'd probably order parts from them if their web site was easier to use. Unfortunately for N3, nautiqueparts.com is way easier to use and I get a similar 10% discount.

Here is a link to the hoses on N3's site.

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The downtubes are ~$83 each at WLM.

N3's parts section is STILL down and STILL sucks a big one.
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Did the hose come in 6ft sections? Do you remember how much you needed?
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I think I spent $250 for the wire reinforced hose, but I could have used the cheaper one. I ordered it someplace online.   I had the interflow muffler. The hose attached directly to the exhaust headers.   I will take pictures and try to post a sound track when I get to the lake tomorrow. I have the 351 HO engine.
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Originally posted by Tadpole Tadpole wrote:

I ordered the 3.5 into 4.0 Centek for my 93 ski nautique. It sounds perfect and seems to give me a little bit more power. I love it and would highly recommend it.

What about the exhaust down tubes? Did you get those from WML? Also what was the total cost so others with invertaflow SN will know for reference.
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Originally posted by Tadpole Tadpole wrote:

I ordered the 3.5 into 4.0 Centek for my 93 ski nautique. It sounds perfect and seems to give me a little bit more power. I love it and would highly recommend it.


Can you post some pictures? How much new exhaust hose was required?
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I ordered the 3.5 into 4.0 Centek for my 93 ski nautique. It sounds perfect and seems to give me a little bit more power. I love it and would highly recommend it.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

http://www.marinepartssource.com/newdetails.asp?pnumber=VL1200415&mfg=Centek&mcat1=22&mcat2=0&mcat3=0&category=&mfgcategory=Standard%20Y-Fittings&mfgno=1200415


Thank you sir. Used to be $230. Good deal.

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http://www.marinepartssource.com/newdetails.asp?pnumber=VL1200415&mfg=Centek&mcat1=22&mcat2=0&mcat3=0&category=&mfgcategory=Standard%20Y-Fittings&mfgno=1200415
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Jones was on the right path, Centek does make a Y with 3" or 3.5" inlets and a 4" outlet. This is just a "standard y", not a "surge fitting". Surge fittings are all the same size inlet and outlet diameters.
http://www.centekindustries.com/fittings.html
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Or just buy the 3.5x3.5x4 Y pipe instead of the 3x3x4?


I don't really need the Y pipe, but wouldn't mind having it in case the muffler blows again. For his asking price it was a deal. Don't they cost $250-ish for new?



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That too. I missed the 3 1/2 version in the thread.
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Or just buy the 3.5x3.5x4 Y pipe instead of the 3x3x4?
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Change out the risers to 3".
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Starting in '92, all small block PCM's got 3.5" risers, not 3".


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I can roll sheet metal and weld something up if you give me some dimensions but out of stainless its going to be more expensive than the fiberglass stuff. can also use aluminum, that would be my choice first because its easier to work with and wouldn't need to be gas backed. either way though I wouldn't be able to do it for any cheaper than the centek pipe.
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Just find a local place that does custom exhaust and have them tig up a Y fitting out of stainless.

Yeah I already thought of that Paul but I live in a pretty small town up here by Kerr Lake and the muffler shops we have here are deff not gonna tig.. they only have brazing and mig setups which is not detailed enough when looking for water and air tight setups.. And by the time I found and paid someone for there time and materials I could by a Fiberglass y probably
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Just find a local place that does custom exhaust and have them tig up a Y fitting out of stainless.
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Originally posted by turningpoint84 turningpoint84 wrote:

Anyone ever thought about "T" off a 1/4" water line from the Cold Water pick up after the RWP and shooting it directly into the PVC pipe a connection?

Just extra insurance?


I don't see the problem being as much heat under normal circumstances, the issue is that when the engine experiences an overheat due to lack of water or water problems, you'll overheat the PVC.   If you were using the RWP as extra insurance, the problem doesn't go away, you are still relying on the RWP either through the engine or around it.    I actually think the bigger problem with PVC is that when you heat cycle it, it becomes brittle.   We see condenser water heating systems in our area that have used PVC piping.   Standard water temp is 85°-95°F and we have seen many failures due to the brittleness of the piping.   Yes, the pipes are 20 years old, but I think vibration, more heat, and exhaust gasses would increase to the degradation rate.   I think the OP has a point that getting it all correct as a trial is a fine Idea, but I'm glad to see that a Centek is on order.    
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Anyone ever thought about "T" off a 1/4" water line from the Cold Water pick up after the RWP and shooting it directly into the PVC pipe a connection?

Just extra insurance?
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Starting in '92, all small block PCM's got 3.5" risers, not 3".
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Would have been nice to have the addded maintenance space for just 120$
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No. The Y-pipes replace the hull hugger muffler, not the invertaflows. You would need downtubes and then a Y pipe for the older boats.
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So you loose the entire big black bulky muffler over the trans and it gets souder...
Does it also improve airflow? How much louder?
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Originally posted by DayTony DayTony wrote:

I have a y pipe that might work for you, what exactly are you looking for?
I have this pipe which you could probably modify.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-marine-muffler-XT-TPD-3504-Centek-Industries-1200442-surge-tube-3-/121693132400?hash=item1c5579d670&vxp=mtr


That's a 3in on all opening's The rear one would need to be 4in for the outlet.. But if your price is right I could make that one work.
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Originally posted by DayTony DayTony wrote:

I have a y pipe that might work for you, what exactly are you looking for?
I have this pipe which you could probably modify.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-marine-muffler-XT-TPD-3504-Centek-Industries-1200442-surge-tube-3-/121693132400?hash=item1c5579d670&vxp=mtr


That's a great deal. If he's not interested, I might be if it will work on our '92



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