floormats my but

thats what happens when you try to pass off a vehicle and forget a few steps, "we want one in every drive" doesnt cut it with me....thats why the US automkers got thier asses in a tangent and were left behind, its not a mistake, its called building a car cheaper for the same money. im in no way bashing Toyota, its just nice to get a reality check once in a while. you obviously have one in the drive or work for them.
Running down to the local Toyaota dealer to plop 40k on a truck doesnt help me out a bit.
These automkers here in the US were big olive trees with roots that went in all directions, everything fed off of that root system, the money was re-invested inside these walls, anything you touched or bought was attributed too or in some way with these guy's. citys were built around these large companies, good schools and education were the result of the cash flow.
now tell me how that 40k helps this country out

there isn't enough space here to post all the major Detroit 3 recalls

It's pretty pathetic what has happened to Detroit over the years. It's not Toyota's fault and bashing Toyota now is no way to bring it back.

I do remember going down to LTV steel at a premium to keep that line running, its a ghost town now

FYI

Ford Hybrid Brake Problem

Ford Fire Hazard Recall

Older GM Brake Recall

Top 10 Recalls in History

8122pbrainard wrote: 05 210 wrote: eric lavine wrote: the prius    that half man half woman car     Easy there big shooter. I know you read my post that stated I have one of those in the driveway.      Everyone I know was actually shocked when the wife bought it, she has always been a truck/suv girl.     Mike Mike, Why did she get it? Does she really think she's being "green" and doing the environment good? If so, she didn't do her research on hybrids. It's a scam for the "tree huggers".

Impulse buy. Her Commander gets about 11 miles per gallon and she drives alot toting the kids around, going skiing,etc. She's constantly running & got tired of putting 150 bucks a week in the Jeep tank when gas was $5 a gallon. I asked her if she realized how much gas she could have bought instead of buying that car.......
She's no tree hugger that's for sure. The only thing"green" about that car is the gas mileage.

      Mike

05 210 wrote: eric lavine wrote: the prius    that half man half woman car     Easy there big shooter. I know you read my post that stated I have one of those in the driveway.      Everyone I know was actually shocked when the wife bought it, she has always been a truck/suv girl.     Mike

Mike,
Why did she get it? Does she really think she's being "green" and doing the environment good? If so, she didn't do her research on hybrids. It's a scam for the "tree huggers".

eric lavine wrote: the prius    that half man half woman car

    Easy there big shooter. I know you read my post that stated I have one of those in the driveway. I will not tolerate personal attacks against my insane wife's decision to purchase the most uncool vehicle I've ever driven( did I just admit that?) hahahaha.
    Consider yourself fortunate you buddies did not ask you to turn in your mancard, like mine did when they saw it. It's not even a good color....some kindof metallic light green
     Everyone I know was actually shocked when the wife bought it, she has always been a truck/suv girl.I'm trying semi successfully to talk her into getting rid of it, but can't think of anyone who'd want it. I hate that f@$#king car! Perhaps I should send it off a bridge and claim the brakes failed

    Mike

* edit- maybe HW wants it.He could just transfer the painters tape sign off the caddy trunk onto it.

They are buying some back. I'm not sure who is making the decision to buyout or fix. They trucks that don't have the rust are getting undercoated.

Talked to the closest dealer here today. He said because of the high number of vehicles to repair the shop is working 24hrs a day except for the weekends. Can you say overtime $$$$!

Imagine the excitement had HW driven through "Boys Town" that day!

quinner wrote: Looks like HW got a little payback for his unknowingly driving across Chicago-land in his Fleetwood with "Gay N Proud" plastered on his backside!!

Yes but didn't I hear the advertisment came off and was transfered to your Surburban at the train station??

Now both of you will literally need to check/cover your backsides. (body and auto!!)

quinner wrote: What Flavor is that Jap Car Cool-Aid now? Buy American as it may be your own job or business that it saves one day!!

These are mighty tough words coming from a guy with 2 junk American cars in his yard, one in the shop and a TOYOTA in his garage!

thats the best news ive heard in a year, hopefully its contagious

I caught the tail end of the report on the fix Toyota is doing. Looks like a wear plate someplace at a mechanical linkage. However, the report continued stating that other testing has also shown problems with the electronics so that's the "fly by wire" I referred to.

05 210 wrote:         GM's PLAN to take the market back from Toyota

GM should better take care of the 10.000 employees they are gonna lay off in Europe...
The GM plant in Antwerp (the most efficient in the world...) will be shut down and other plants in for instance Germany are gonna go through reorganisations.