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Gary S
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Randy,I agree with you but thats why this is such a strange deal.Remember that police officer and his family in California that were killed in a Lexus ? It was one of the first that got news coverage. They had time to call 911 while it was happening. Why didn't he think to turn it off? And now the Prius is having brake trouble? I think something else is going wrong.Lexus |
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eric lavine
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thats what happens when you try to pass off a vehicle and forget a few steps, "we want one in every drive" doesnt cut it with me....thats why the US automkers got thier asses in a tangent and were left behind, its not a mistake, its called building a car cheaper for the same money. im in no way bashing Toyota, its just nice to get a reality check once in a while. you obviously have one in the drive or work for them.
Running down to the local Toyaota dealer to plop 40k on a truck doesnt help me out a bit. These automkers here in the US were big olive trees with roots that went in all directions, everything fed off of that root system, the money was re-invested inside these walls, anything you touched or bought was attributed too or in some way with these guy's. citys were built around these large companies, good schools and education were the result of the cash flow. now tell me how that 40k helps this country out |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Randy, Some people can drive all their lives and won't learn any logic or "feel" for the road. It's like the steering correction if the tail end of the car goes sideways on ice. My daughter (22) had it happen 2 weeks ago and I discussed the correction with her. No concept/feel for the maneuver. She spun out, went through the median, took out a mileage marker, went across the oncoming lanes and into the ditch on the other side. Besides the sheet metal damage from the mile maker, she ripped off the right rear wheel, strut and "A" arms off the Buick (front wheel drive). We are thankful see wasn't hurt. On the phone after the accident, I asked her if she was ok and was glad to find out the answer was yes. Next, asking her what happened she immediately stated she was doing the speed limit!!?? |
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MI-nick
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there isn't enough space here to post all the major Detroit 3 recalls
It's pretty pathetic what has happened to Detroit over the years. It's not Toyota's fault and bashing Toyota now is no way to bring it back. |
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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Randy_in_Ohio
Platinum Member Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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I have an 07 Tundra which is supposed to have the problem. I'm not too worried about it... haven't had any stickiness in my accelerator. And if I did I think I know what to do... put it in neutral and turn it off! What the hell was wrong with these people who had this happen and didn't think to turn off the engine?? If any machine is out of control isn't that the first thing you think of? I still love my truck and have no plans to sell it or trade it in for a GM (Government Motors) besides, if I get pulled over for speeding I have the perfect excuse! "officer, have you heard about the recall?? that just happened to me!"
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eric lavine
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I do remember going down to LTV steel at a premium to keep that line running, its a ghost town now
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eric lavine
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do you close your eyes as you drive thru Detroit? you forgot the Pinto's that blew up when hit in the back or the old chevy trucks with the tanks on the outside of the frame rails lol
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MI-nick
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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eric lavine
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my wife keeps bugging me to buy her dads Hyundai, he's pretty conservative and i try not to bring it up in conversations, i will walk or hitchhike before i would buy that, those things tear appart on the frame rack, i know we need crush zones, most of the times they are totals.
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05 210
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Impulse buy. Her Commander gets about 11 miles per gallon and she drives alot toting the kids around, going skiing,etc. She's constantly running & got tired of putting 150 bucks a week in the Jeep tank when gas was $5 a gallon. I asked her if she realized how much gas she could have bought instead of buying that car....... She's no tree hugger that's for sure. The only thing"green" about that car is the gas mileage. Mike |
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Waterdog
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When Michael Waldrop causes the Big One at Daytona next Sunday, he can say the gas pedal his his Camary stuck !
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8122pbrainard
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Mike, Why did she get it? Does she really think she's being "green" and doing the environment good? If so, she didn't do her research on hybrids. It's a scam for the "tree huggers". |
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eric lavine
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Mike, its a golf cart with woman bling lol
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05 210
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Easy there big shooter. I know you read my post that stated I have one of those in the driveway. I will not tolerate personal attacks against my insane wife's decision to purchase the most uncool vehicle I've ever driven( did I just admit that?) hahahaha. Consider yourself fortunate you buddies did not ask you to turn in your mancard, like mine did when they saw it. It's not even a good color....some kindof metallic light green Everyone I know was actually shocked when the wife bought it, she has always been a truck/suv girl.I'm trying semi successfully to talk her into getting rid of it, but can't think of anyone who'd want it. I hate that f@$#king car! Perhaps I should send it off a bridge and claim the brakes failed Mike * edit- maybe HW wants it.He could just transfer the painters tape sign off the caddy trunk onto it. |
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eric lavine
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now the prius with brake issues? karma, i know they pushed that half man half woman car to introduce it first here in the good ole usa and at a loss...im weeping
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Keuka
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They are buying some back. I'm not sure who is making the decision to buyout or fix. They trucks that don't have the rust are getting undercoated.
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eric lavine
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they should sublet the overflow to the GM and Ford dealerships, these boys can turn wrenches too.
Keuka, is it true that at times they will give you blue book for the Tacoma and let you walk away from it? |
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SN206
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Talked to the closest dealer here today. He said because of the high number of vehicles to repair the shop is working 24hrs a day except for the weekends. Can you say overtime $$$$!
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...those who have fallen and those who will.
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Keuka
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I have been working in a Toyota dealer setting up a computer system for the last couple weeks. This gas pedal recall finally hit today. They are installing what they are calling a "reinforcement bar". Basically it is just shim that put a little more tension on the spring. I have worked in and around car dealerships either directly or as a computer system provider for about 18 years. All the franchised have recalls but Toyota has been hit hard lately. I think there are 3 or 4 different recalls for floor mats or gas pedals. They also have the truck frame recalls. The dealer I am at now is doing one of these on a Tacoma. Start with a new frame and swap all the part off the old. These pay 60 hours to the tech. I have seen guys knock out 2 a week. Maybe this is just Toyota way to help the economy by providing employment for all the technicians to fix their cars.
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quinner
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Imagine the excitement had HW driven through "Boys Town" that day!
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Hollywood
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You are correct Pete, which explains the foot tapping and thigh rubbing as the guy sat right next to Chris and they were the only 2 in the entire train car!
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8122pbrainard
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Yes but didn't I hear the advertisment came off and was transfered to your Surburban at the train station?? Now both of you will literally need to check/cover your backsides. (body and auto!!) |
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quinner
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Holy Half Barrel Timmy, just wet myself laughing so hard.
Looks like HW got a little payback for his unknowingly driving across Chicago-land in his Fleetwood with "Gay N Proud" plastered on his backside!! |
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TRBenj
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These are mighty tough words coming from a guy with 2 junk American cars in his yard, one in the shop and a TOYOTA in his garage! |
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eric lavine
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as of this morning, software problems? but cannot pinpoint problem yet
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eric lavine
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thats the best news ive heard in a year, hopefully its contagious
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PAPA
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Ford and GM both outsold Toyota in todays reports.It's a beautiful thing!
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8122pbrainard
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I caught the tail end of the report on the fix Toyota is doing. Looks like a wear plate someplace at a mechanical linkage. However, the report continued stating that other testing has also shown problems with the electronics so that's the "fly by wire" I referred to.
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Riley
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Man, you'll be moving up here to the west end next. |
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Kristof
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GM should better take care of the 10.000 employees they are gonna lay off in Europe... The GM plant in Antwerp (the most efficient in the world...) will be shut down and other plants in for instance Germany are gonna go through reorganisations. |
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