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Topic: The elephant in the room
Posted By: KENO
Subject: The elephant in the room
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 8:11am
It seems like there's this big elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about, so i guess I'll ask the question Wink

Is picture posting through the site software without using some photo hosting service, ever gonna come back?

It's not the first time this has happened, been known about  and gone unresolved for long stretches of time with people bringing it up on the site, sending e mails etc and nothing happening or at least being communicated

The elephant could have other questions too but this'll do for now



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Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 9:43am
I hate to say it but the elephant in the room may be larger than just no pictures being uploaded.  Its been eerily quiet on here for a few weeks.  

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2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski


Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 9:46am
I agree Bill / Ken 

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'05 206 Limited
'88 BFN


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 1:25pm
Here's a picture of that big boy. Wink


Done with IMGBB and still more than a bit of a PIA than it should be dealing with the CCF program/software or whatever to make it show up here.


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 1:35pm
Almost every group that I have been involved with has lost folks during and after Covid.  Covid changed a lot - people consume CC's and info / interactions in different ways now.  This site has been crippled by hackers, is poorly supported by it's users, is a niche "destination site" and we don't have reunions any longer.  Facebook, Instagram and other sites reach more folks and haven't had the limitations that this site has had.

I still love the folks (generally Wink ) on this site and have built lifelong friendships.  Things need to change or it will stay as a less and less visited niche site for nerd CCFans. My $ 0.02.



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https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206
http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot
78 SkiTiq


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 5:48pm

Just honing my IMGBB skills, I'm getting better at this maybe Wink

or maybe just lucky


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 5:55pm

More practice

Made the little elephant into a big one...............I almost know what I'm doing   Wink

But can I remember how I did this tomorrow ?


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 5:58pm
This has been mentioned before, I think some of it is a natural ebb and flow of enthusiasm.  This site had a core group of members, we all know the key names, that posted a ton, skied and boated a ton, went to reunions, became good friends.  While I wasn't very active outside the site I still feel I know people here and enjoy the friendship.  But Keith got this ball rolling 20-ish years ago (I think) and those super-enthusiastic folks who did the organizing and fueled a lot of the conversations are 20 years older now, life changes.  I think they weren't really replaced with a new generation.  Now maybe that's because of some of what Steve said about changing habits.  Personally I think it has less to do with covid and more that younger folks don't spend much time on old fashioned forums.


Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 7:23pm
I just sent Keith a donation to help support this site. Perhaps we can all chip-in a few shekels as this site takes cash to stay open.  Have you seen the price of Purina Elephant Chow lately?

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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited
2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow (for sale)
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow (sold)
Aqua skiing, ergo sum


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-10-2023 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

I just sent Keith a donation to help support this site. Perhaps we can all chip-in a few shekels as this site takes cash to stay open.  Have you seen the price of Purina Elephant Chow lately?

Good reminder Rob, I just did the same.


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 1:15am
This is still “the site” to me. Check in daily. KENO certainly carrying the torch, which is much appreciated. I’m surprised Larry hasn’t thrown up my PN post about this place yet…


Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 6:50am
HA.  With Larry's retirement he seems to be busier these days or perhaps he is fine tuning the reel to reel time recording machine to share some more film.....

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'05 206 Limited
'88 BFN


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 8:30am
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

This is still “the site” to me. Check in daily. KENO certainly carrying the torch, which is much appreciated. I’m surprised Larry hasn’t thrown up my PN post about this place yet…
   I immediately thought - Larry the Cat - LOL !

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https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206
http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot
78 SkiTiq


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 10:29am
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

This is still “the site” to me. Check in daily. KENO certainly carrying the torch, which is much appreciated. I’m surprised Larry hasn’t thrown up my PN post about this place yet…


Good news. Ski Nat back watching action. Drought no water no boating
Yes, having to ask KENO to post pictures for me sucked. And the hack was discouraging.
But there’s not much on PN for me
Happy new year’s


Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 11:34am
Yeah I think the CC FB group has taken a lot of daily users but I still poke my head in here several times a day to see what is going on. I think a resurgence in CCFan would happen if it were easier to post photos directly to the site instead of using a 3rd party. But even the FB CC group sends questions here as you can follow up much easier on a thread then scrolling back and back to see respones.

 Reunions still happen! Well at least one public one and it's been slow going as not a whole lot of movement to the SJRR gathering. The Nautique Regatta is back at Lanier again for 2023 so a few CCFans will head to that and eventually end up at the Morfoot Marina sometime during the weekend.

It is Winter for most of us and the only ones who might be skiing at Lewy and Kapla and Lewy hasn't even had the boat in the water this season. I guess Adam and I are gonna have to head back to Oz to get a boat wet. Last time we did we ended up killing Prince so that's why we haven't been back. Wink
Turning of the Sun has already happened so it won't be long before the My boat won't start threads start showing up.


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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"


Posted By: Hansel
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 1:53pm
Not checking daily, but still lurking as always. And I even managed a move to the Upper Midwest so might be more active in the future, who knows. And oh yeah, the GT40 won't start (that is not a joke).


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"The only prudence in fishermen is that designed to set the stage for taking yet another, and perhaps a longer, chance." -Aldo Leopold


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 5:45pm


Well, here's todays photo practice with IMGBB

I think this might look familiar to a new old face here on CCF Wink


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 6:45pm
Wow thanks keno,
had seats reupholstered so maybe I’ll try again to post a pic


Posted By: nobrainsd
Date Posted: January-11-2023 at 7:45pm
https://youtu.be/HuogqZyVYnY" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/HuogqZyVYnY

It is hard for all traditional forums to survive in this instant gratification world. My favorite forum, FOILFORUM.com, is gone. The activity bled out to a subforum on FB. That forum then got flooded by posts from stand up foilers. No hate here. A lot of us ride a stand up foil after wearing ourselves out on the sit down foil. The worst part of that was losing the searchable data base of posts. So much awesome material and it took many years to accumulate. You see basic questions repeatedly asked on FB and most experienced foilers simply skip the whole thing. It is sad to lose that community and the information that was so kindly shared. I pop into CCF everyday. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to all the members whose posts have helped me so thoroughly enjoy my Nautique. 
It is actually rather cool and rainy today in San Diego, but I want to share the video linked above from Dec 24th. My buddy T rockin it in 71 degree sunny temps at San Vicente reservoir here in SoCal. Stay classy out there :)



Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 8:10am
Reunions cinched the great friendships that were made early on in CCF and caused the site to grow.  Not having sponsored reunions for the past 12 years has prevented newer members from meeting each other and developing those same friendships. When it first started, many of us made true friends and even if I don't see them as often as I used to, they'll always be friends.  It was said many years ago that CCF was like a local bar, people come, and people go, and it is more popular at times than others. Hopefully, the forums activity will come back.  I'm not big into FB, and don't understand why it is a more popular venue than CCF, but I find the comments there in regard to knowledge about the brand and rebuilding boats generally not very good, nothing like you can find here.


Posted By: MourningWood
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 11:11am
On a few other 'niche' forum boards:
early911Sregistry
Boss302.com
Don't personally do FB.
Part of the allure of these small(er) sites is photos. The sharing of photo details is often more helpful and more immediately understood than a thread of a dozen textual posts. 
I would support (however I could) a simpler, more robust photo insertion process.
As so often quoted here "We love photos"....



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1994 Ski Nautique "Riot"
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"

'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!"


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 11:18am
(Group) texting also a game changer IMO


Posted By: ohio 93 snpb
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 2:05pm
still visit daily,had to change my profile got hacked last year,most of you know our family,dan,scott ,gene monahan,we all love the older correct crafts,we represent the 70s ,80s,and 90,s

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93 sn purple/black


Posted By: Wilhelm Hertzog
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by MourningWood MourningWood wrote:

On a few other 'niche' forum boards:
early911Sregistry
Boss302.com
Don't personally do FB.
Part of the allure of these small(er) sites is photos. The sharing of photo details is often more helpful and more immediately understood than a thread of a dozen textual posts. 
I would support (however I could) a simpler, more robust photo insertion process.
As so often quoted here "We love photos"....



Agree. Being able to upload photos straight from a phone would be great.

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1982 Ski Nautique PCM351W RR II Velvet Drive 10-17-003 1:1 II PerfectPass Stargazer
Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 6:39pm

Today's practice picture using IMGBB..................it 's ol' Cliff Claven himself  Wink


Posted By: burban65
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 6:44pm


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SRB


Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 6:51pm
 Rarely post but visit daily. I have noticed a significant  difference here lately also. Learn A LOT from the forum.  Just want the gurus to realize that their knowledge really does help a lot of us out here in boating land. Probably a lot more lurkers out here than we realize.

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Feels like I am hanging 10 but in reality - probably hanging 6.


Posted By: burban65
Date Posted: January-12-2023 at 6:54pm
All,
Well its been quite awhile since I have been on the site. Tried to post a picture (empty post above) and no luck.  Looks like some things have not changed (elephant).  Truth be told, I started using FB more about a year or so ago primarily due to FB Marketplace as I like to buy and sell winter and summer "toys" and the venue is very easy to use and has plenty to offer. As stated several times above, I do think age demographics is playing a key factor in the lack of activity in this site.  The wake boat craze over the past few years accompanied by younger generation becoming more captivated by what the latest social media craziness is and where it comes from has definitely played a factor as well.  Enough of my rambling.
Belated Happy New Year to all of you!
For those down south send some warm weather up to NW Indiana........please!


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SRB


Posted By: 2001SAN
Date Posted: January-13-2023 at 1:55am
I post occasionally but read CCF every day. For sure FB has hurt most forums I am on.

D

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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

2001 Super Air Nautique
1989 Fairline Corniche 31

www.bannrivercruises.co.uk


Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-13-2023 at 11:43am
I don't know how I'd keep my boats running without CCFan. Big thanks to all who keep it running!! I don't use and don't want to ever use facepage.

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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-13-2023 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by NCH20SKIER NCH20SKIER wrote:

HA.  With Larry's retirement he seems to be busier these days or perhaps he is fine tuning the reel to reel time recording machine to share some more film.....

How about this, the first/original CCF video (tho more a collection of stills vs a video) from 2007.

https://youtu.be/4ja2c22B6Jw" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/4ja2c22B6Jw

Yup, changed a lot through the years. I think I've given this speech before, but to recap.  One, you gotta figure, its coming up on 20 years.  That's a pretty good run, things are bound to change.  I really miss "the gang" and the chatter, banter and ribbing from yesteryear.  Very disappointed in the shift to Facebook.  I cant stand FB.  I dont like their outward political involvement (tho quite honestly, I guess it doesnt hurt me at all, so I suppose I shouldnt care, just the principle of it, I guess) I cant stand the fact that 3/4s of my page is either "sponsored" posts, or "suggested for you" crap  that I have no interest in, only serves as click bait to keep you there longer.  Its nothing but an advertising machine.  It is ruined.  Same management didnt ruin Instagram like that (tho I dont do instagram) Not sure why they had to ruin FB, but anyway.  But, despite all that, I still go there, as that is where the discussions on Nautiques, Classic CCs,  vintage boats, skiing (waterski hub and Hows my spray) barefooting (Barefoot Buds) vintage skiing and ski photos and on and on, are, and I enjoy looking at those.  What drives me nuts, is the misinformation over there, especially regarding old CCs.  So  much knowledge that is so completely wrong. I feel bad for people asking the questions because they get so much bad information.  I used to constantly tell people over there with questions to come over here, but I got out of that habit as I tend not to participate a much.

Sadly, I used to come here all the time to verify my statements, using the diaries or brochures, but since they are gone,those not much of a resource any more.  Hard to believe all that stuff wasnt backed up somewhere, especially the brochures, but oh well.  I certainly understand the photo challenges lowering the appeal of the site.  As far as Hollywood's comment about group texting, well that's fine, I suppose if you happen to be one of the six people in the group text, but there are a lot of us out here that are still interested in hearing about the Buckethead, or seeing videos of skiing or footing, or hearing about the activities of ski clubs or teams or seeing new purchases or seeing progress on projects, all of which is pretty limited now.  

I do appreciate what has survived the test of time.  Some new members, old members offering good advice and fixes, references over on FB to come over here for the right answer, so I guess we should be grateful for that.




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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-13-2023 at 4:20pm
Most of us have no idea what all is involved in running this site so I am asking out of ignorance......why is so difficult to post media within a reply box?  Space?  Memory?  

 I visit everyday and have for years and certainly hope it continues.  The knowledge value alone is worth a ton and the camaraderie is priceless!  Lets all hope it keeps rolling.


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2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-14-2023 at 8:17am
Well, here I am sitting in the back of the room with the elephant and he says that it seems like there are a good number of people who really like the website, visit daily or pretty frequently and probably a whole big bunch who just pop on for some free, usually good advice, then disappear till the next problem. Then there are all those lurkers that just search for information , find what they're looking for and disappear

Like fanofccfan  ,me and the elephant know nothing about what's involved in running the site, but I do wonder how much commitment, dedication, effort (and whatever other words you want to throw in here) Keith gives to the site these days in what's probably a busy life with plenty of other stuff going on ?

is it out of the goodness of his heart.?

Now before anybody gets all hot and bothered and says I'm picking on Keith or CCF, let's just sat it's an effort to keep our favorite "best little niche website" healthy and profitable for he who runs it.. 

I'm sure I'm not the only one with the same thoughts, just the only one maybe dumb enough to actually ask the question we may or may not want to hear the answer to  Wink 

I suppose only one person knows the answer


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-14-2023 at 8:51am
Keno. Are you interested in helping kieth ‘management ’ the technical aspects of a website to perform better (pics, security etc)
Or take over completely


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-14-2023 at 11:21am
Not neither. Sounds like they’re just wondering what it would take to make some improvements.


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-14-2023 at 1:52pm
Good to know
I’m on a vintage car forum too, unbelievable easy to load a pic
Keno been trying to show us how using Imgur, loading pic really only problem I have
Maybe Keith could use expert or maybe it’s really expensive $
It’s hard to do much about participation


Posted By: cboland
Date Posted: January-15-2023 at 9:14am
I’ll throw my $0.02 in here as a very longtime lurker. No doubt, this site has been invaluable to me over the years in troubleshooting and keeping my boats running. I feel a bit of guilt for not more actively contributing to making it the community it is. 

Regarding the elephant, no doubt demographics and lack of in-person interaction has hurt online participation, but from an everyday experience standpoint, I have to believe a big issue we’re having is the underlying site/forum platform. Like everything, technology has evolved as has the way in which we use it. This site is still built on a platform designed for when we did all of this on desktop computers. The overwhelming majority of use these days is on mobile devices. I believe the reason much of our traffic has moved to Facebook and others is because the user interface of those platforms makes it so easy to comment, post pictures, etc. I know there have been many instances where I wanted to chime in on something here, but knowing the 10 minute battle it was going to take to get logged in and get the post made discouraged me from doing do. 

This is no criticism of Keith as I can only imagine the cost to upgrade all of this is very high in money, time, expertise, etc. I’m just afraid the way in which we all interact, use our devices, etc. has evolved beyond what the current CCFan infrastructure offers. There is a direct correlation between use/participation and ease of use/usability. 


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1999 Sport Nautique


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-15-2023 at 9:44am
Well said sir. Exactly


Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: January-15-2023 at 2:01pm
Bud, you nailed it. 



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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S.
1968 Ski Nautique, Project.


Posted By: Lou-Pa
Date Posted: January-15-2023 at 7:42pm
Plus 2


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-16-2023 at 9:01am
Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Keno. Are you interested in helping kieth ‘management ’ the technical aspects of a website to perform better (pics, security etc)
Or take over completely


Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Not neither. Sounds like they’re just wondering what it would take to make some improvements.

Like Hollywood said, just trying to see what it takes for improvement ( and take care of the picture posting issue that he said would be fixed over a month ago) and now there is input from from multiple people and Keith can do whatever he wants with that input. 

It's his website. Wink


Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-17-2023 at 9:13am
Well. I’m clueless about how mechanics of a website work
So Keith is doing better than myself and provided decades of solid entertainment and camaraderie


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 5:31am
The elephant is still in the room, still wondering Wink


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 8:12am
Ken, you must really be wondering about it if its your first thought at 5:30 in the morning.  What are you wondering about?  Are you wondering why overnight all the old guard guys are suddenly not back helping, sharing stories, posting pictures,  ribbing other members?   Or are you wondering why the forum has not overnight been updated so we can post pictures from our phones?

It's kind of like leaving a party and saying "Gee, that was kind of a dull party"  Whose fault is that, the deadbeat dullards there who dont know how to have a good time, or the host because the music or food wasnt to their liking?

You politely but pointedly accused Keith of not keeping the site up, and you mused is he doing it out of the goodness of his heart.  I'd say that is probably pretty close. He's not doing it for the money, certainly.  It's been almost 20 years.  I think his priorities and interests have changed.  He's got two teen kids and a wife and a job keeping him busy.  He's following his kid's multiple interests and actvities, he's into fishing, snow skiing, winter mountain biking, hiking, family activities.  I cant tell you how many years its been since I saw a boat/skiing related post on his FB page, so yeah, I'd say he is doing it out of the goodness of his heart.  He owes us nothing.  He could easily pull the plug and leave us with nothing, probably be a lot easier for him. But at least he puts in the effort to keep it up, which perhaps we shoould be grateful for. 


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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 9:07am
Well a good place to start is by reviewing the thread in the link Larry

l http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49031&PN=2&FID=7&PR=3&title=adding-images-to-your-posts" rel="nofollow - ink

Back on Dec 11th, people started getting the error below, it's got to do with using the site photo loading process, nothing to do with using a phone to post pictures, just doing it with the sites software.

Persits.Upload.1 error '800a0005'

The system cannot find the file specified.T

/forum/functions/functions_upload.asp, line 171


The problem happened, he posted that he purchased additional space and it would be fixed within a few hours. it happened in 2020 and 2021 near the end of the year also and was fixed pretty quickly both times.

This time it's not fixed yet.

As far as site friendliness with phones, FB affects on the site and websites in general. reminiscing about the past. people coming and going, that came from other people.

It was a simple question

So maybe to sum it up, wondering why it's been well over a month and photo posting isn't back to the way it was.(no improvements, just back to what it was)

So it seems like maybe we agree............maybe he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart, but letting photo posting degrade from what it was, he isn't doing himself any favors at all

PS.............I had a bunch of other thoughts before 5:30, none of which had to do with CCF Wink




Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 10:02am
Agreed Ken.  Not saying its not unfortunate, but its also unfortunate when I plan on going skiing in the morning and wake up to gale force winds or torrential rains.  Its out of my control.


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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: MourningWood
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 11:50am
Yes, but unlike Mother Nature, this site issue may be under someone's control.
I think the summation of this thread is:
"Why is it such a challenge to post images (desktop or phone) and what, if anything, can be done about it?"




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1994 Ski Nautique "Riot"
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"

'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!"


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 7:22pm


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 7:46pm
Well, I guess it's time to say something like "Holy crap, I just posted the picture in the above post from my phone using IMGBB".................and it wasn't  hard  and I didn't have to ask a little kid or anybody else for any helpWink

The hard part would be putting into words what I did, but it was straightforward and not hard to do..

The biggest thing to get out of this is that if I can do it.............well most anybody should be able to do it with a little bit of practice.

The other pictures a few days ago were on a laptop using IMGBB.

Now somebody else who knows how to do this from a phone needs to come along and explain in plain easy to understand English, how to do it.

And..............never again let it be said that posting pictures from a phone is almost impossible on CCF since a relative "phone dummy" just did it. You don't use any of the CCF photo posting software, the picture is pasted from in my case, IMGBB.

I seem to think gun_driver mentioned IMGBB a while back

Edit...............A little digging says that he learned it from Old School Blue 84 back in 2018

Click on link below for that thread

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42940&title=posting-pics-from-ipad-iphone" rel="nofollow - link

PS That connecting rod is just an optical illusion Wink


Posted By: northcoastidol
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 9:23pm
I totally agree with Larry on this. If it wasn't for this site and family and friends. I wouldn't have meet so many great people with similar interests on this site and have made many great friendships? not sure if they they all agree with that? if you now me and my family. I will always log in to this site as long as its up and running.

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Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 9:30pm
Keno-I think it’s up to you to put it in laymen’s terms.  We’re counting on you!

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2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-20-2023 at 11:41pm
"I wouldn't have meet so many great people with similar interests on this site and have made many great friendships" 
I think Scott is closer to the truth with this statement. Many contact each other and hang out together bypassing the site or so I suspect. Also wonder if some are involved with different brands and types of boats. Covid,hurricanes and moving due to the witness protection program has really changed my life so what do I know.


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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-21-2023 at 8:09am


Today's phone practice


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-21-2023 at 8:19am
Originally posted by fanofccfan fanofccfan wrote:

Keno-I think it’s up to you to put it in laymen’s terms.  We’re counting on you!

Well, after being successful again today, there might be a slim chance of me maybe posting some simple minded instructions that might work for someone else.Wink

I'm sure somebody else could do better.


Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: January-21-2023 at 4:35pm
Nice picture of the bent rod Ken, classic hydro lock issue?   I don’t even try to post pics anymore unless really important.

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Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: January-21-2023 at 11:28pm
Common, Mark.  That con-rod will buff out.  Ken's fixed worse...

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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited
2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow (for sale)
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow (sold)
Aqua skiing, ergo sum


Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 10:16am
ok!!
Question of the day!
I know why i do it but why did Ken cut the handle of his ratchet?
Keno dont answer! yet!



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1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0


Posted By: Tomrupp
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 10:26am
Less weight in the boat = smaller wake. Every ounce counts.

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Tom
94 Ski Nautique Open Bow 351 with Carb
95 Double Decker Aqua Patio with 50hp Honda (3 carbs).


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 11:24am
Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

ok!!
Question of the day!
I know why i do it but why did Ken cut the handle of his ratchet?
Keno dont answer! yet!



The photo disappeared (I saw it yesterday, but gone today, at least for me - maybe Ken's imgbb method works but only for a day, then they fade away...tho the bent rod is still there)  But anyway, cant see it to inspect, but I had a friend that had to chop one off for access to steering cable replacement.  Maybe Ken ran into the same thing???


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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 12:34pm
What picture?

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https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206
http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot
78 SkiTiq


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:



Today's phone practice

Well ol' Stubby still shows up in my post from yesterday at 8:09 AM whether I look at it on a phone or laptop . It's 4 posts before Jodi posted this morning

It doesn't show up on my wife's laptop or a desktop PC we have though

Here it is again quoted from yesterday.

I figure it's something I screwed up in some setting Wink

Time to go surf around IMGBB




Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 1:55pm
I was going to post the snap chat logo from my phone, as a joke, but, well, you know…..

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 4:21pm
I think i found what I screwed up, unscrewed it and ol' stubby shows up yesterday in the 8:09AM post and again today. Wink

And any other pictures that might have been missing in this thread should be back.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 4:55pm
More phone practice



Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-22-2023 at 8:00pm
CCF never seemed to be at the forefront of forum technology. Nobody is saying it should be either. The last 20 years have been fun, resourceful and forged lifelong bonds amongst its members. Again, nobody is doubting that. Just because someone is looking toward the future doesn’t mean he needs to get *************** on. Thanks to those who have made the site what it was and is, and to those making an attempt at keeping it going.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-23-2023 at 10:25am
Well, I think I've decided that it's pretty easy to post a picture here on CCF without using the site process which doesn't work anyways right now.

There are probably a variety of ways that people use, but what works for me is using a third party photo hosting service (in my case IMGBB, the free version)

Once you figure out the IMGBB upload process which is easy, then you basically do a cut and paste from IMGBB right to a dialog box here on CCF, like I'm typing in right now. You select BB code full in the embed codes portion of the picture and click on copy, go to CCF and paste it.

Far from the best explanation, but if I can do it, you can too 

It bypasses the CCF photo posting process completely and it's easier besides

I suppose it could turn into a Photobucket money fiasco all over again...........or not

And..............it works with a phone  didn't want anybody to miss that part Wink

Maybe this is the new normal here on CCF or the old normal for some people that have posted pictures here for years




Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-23-2023 at 10:33am
And for Jodi...........I really don't remember why I shortened the ratchet. but since it has a spark plug socket on it, that's one thing that it gets used for

It gets plenty of use though on lots of different things.




Posted By: MourningWood
Date Posted: January-23-2023 at 11:19am
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

CCF never seemed to be at the forefront of forum technology. Nobody is saying it should be either. The last 20 years have been fun, resourceful and forged lifelong bonds amongst its members. Again, nobody is doubting that. Just because someone is looking toward the future doesn’t mean he needs to get *************** on. Thanks to those who have made the site what it was and is, and to those making an attempt at keeping it going.


Is that very faint strains of TAPS in the background....


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1994 Ski Nautique "Riot"
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"

'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!"


Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: January-23-2023 at 6:15pm
About the shortened ratchet. Anyone that does their own wrenching has their own stash of customized tools that only they know what it is used for. Not to be morbid but when I end up puking out of here , the tool cleanup person will probably shake their head and say " WTF did he use that for ".

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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-30-2023 at 6:47am
Well, after talking with the elephant, he figures that he did what he could and the rest is up to someone else.

He said he was getting a little lonely and he spotted a cute female elephant going by, struck up a conversation with her, one thing led to another and last I knew they were working on making little baby elephants together. Wink

 


Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-30-2023 at 9:37am
Ken--Please translate this story into a less secret code of english! Wink  Especially for those of us in the back that don't hear so well.

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-30-2023 at 12:16pm
Been lurking on this thread for a while but now I'm really confused......Baby Elephants? Sounds like a new show ski act to me....


I will say - the lack of convenience posting/uploading etc seems to have kept some of the riff raff over on the more common platforms.  It's painful to read some of the posts/comments over there by folks who are unwilling to do a little research on their own.  Don't even get me started on the lack of quality information.  Site traffic might be down, but I don't mind losing some of the redundant questions, posts & comments.  


Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-31-2023 at 5:58am
Originally posted by fanofccfan fanofccfan wrote:

Ken--Please translate this story into a less secret code of english! Wink .

Thanks Bill....Glad it's not just me! Maybe Ken is a Lawyer?? They all speak a language that nobody understands except fellow lawyers.


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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-31-2023 at 8:48am
Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:

Originally posted by fanofccfan fanofccfan wrote:

Ken--Please translate this story into a less secret code of english! Wink .

Thanks Bill....Glad it's not just me! Maybe Ken is a Lawyer?? They all speak a language that nobody understands except fellow lawyers.

Well, let's try this.................the site has a picture posting issue, it's been pointed out, 7 weeks later it seems nothing's been done or communicated about it from Keith and he's the only one who can do anything about it.

You're  on your own when it comes to posting pictures here these days using a 3rd party photo hosting service or whatever else might work for you.

Any of the other issues mentioned in the thread were brought up by other people. (You can figure out how to solve those yourself)

And the elephant....................he stirred up some interest, but he'd rather be out getting laid right about now, I could probably post pictures of that but you can find those with a Google search Wink




Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-31-2023 at 2:04pm
Fair enough Ken.  I thought you were headed in a different direction with the coded message.  Thanks for the code break!



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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-31-2023 at 5:47pm
After talking to my cousin Vinny, he explained to me what he thought you might have been thinking about what I might have been inferring in my statement that  might have mislead somebody reading the statement into thinking that I meant something that I really didn't mean at all...............I should have just said it's up to Keith

That was my attempt at some "lawyer speak" for Morfoot     Wink
   
Vinny did win a case once.................back when CC still had wooden stringers




Posted By: andrewmarani
Date Posted: February-01-2023 at 10:27pm
Don't know if this is driving anyone crazy or showing up at all but just in case: i've been trying various picture uploads and deleting the posts that fail, which is currently all of them...

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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 5:54am
Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

That was my attempt at some "lawyer speak" for Morfoot     Wink
   
Vinny did win a case once.................back when CC still had wooden stringers

Now you're talking. Thanks KENO

"Well my father was a mechanic. His father was a mechanic. My mother's father was a mechanic. My three brothers are mechanics. Four uncles on my father's side are mechanics!"...Ms Vito

I've been to the Sac-O-Suds still in business. I've achieved greatness! Tongue


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Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 10:10am
Originally posted by andrewmarani andrewmarani wrote:

Don't know if this is driving anyone crazy or showing up at all but just in case: i've been trying various picture uploads and deleting the posts that fail, which is currently all of them...


It takes an act of congress to post pictures for most people.  Others are much more savvy than I and can do it easily it seems.  I hope Keno is writing his thesis on this topic and will share it soon!Wink


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Posted By: andrewmarani
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 10:41am
I saw what Keno was doing and looks pretty simple.  I, not liking simple, decided to take the road less traveled and have ended up in a swamp!

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 10:58am
Since Ken has opted to not give us the steps using imgbb, i explored it myself.  Sadly, I was not as lucky as him in stumbling across the secret method.  I went to imgbb and uploaded a photo. (interesting, unlike that AWFUL photobucket site, you dont need an account, you can just upload a photo, I guess it disappears once you are done with it.  There does appear to be a register option so I guess you can store and go back to photos as well, but I didnt mess with that.  As Ken said, you can simply click on/copy the URL of the photo, easy enough so far, but getting it to show up in a post here is the trick.  I tried the various BB codes.  One did not result in the image showing up, just a image icon, and one resulted in a link back to the photo in imgbb.  That is too cumbersome.  So Ken, any tips on how to plant the image url into a post so that is displays as an image?


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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: andrewmarani
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 11:06am
Well, maybe I wasn't that far off.  I did manage to create a post but I also ended up with an image Icon but no actual image.  I was working from Google Pictures and a separate site that created a link to allow you to upload pictures from Google Pictures to a forum.  Slightly more cumbersome than IMGBB but no restrictions, which made it seem like a good idea, except it didn't work.

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 11:17am
Originally posted by andrewmarani andrewmarani wrote:

which made it seem like a good idea, except it didn't work.


Story of my life  LOL


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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: Tomrupp
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 12:04pm
It’s been one of my favorite threads. Thanks Ken. I tried to chime in with a picture, but can’t crack the code.

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94 Ski Nautique Open Bow 351 with Carb
95 Double Decker Aqua Patio with 50hp Honda (3 carbs).


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 12:47pm

I just posted this image of Jethro from my phone. I'll try to explain how I did it soon.

I did notice that Rule 91 has a slight lean to the right.

The lean was cured a few seconds later though in the explosion Wink



Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Since Ken has opted to not give us the steps using imgbb, i explored it myself.  Sadly, I was not as lucky as him in stumbling across the secret method.  I went to imgbb and uploaded a photo. (interesting, unlike that AWFUL photobucket site, you dont need an account, you can just upload a photo, I guess it disappears once you are done with it.  There does appear to be a register option so I guess you can store and go back to photos as well, but I didnt mess with that.  As Ken said, you can simply click on/copy the URL of the photo, easy enough so far, but getting it to show up in a post here is the trick.  I tried the various BB codes.  One did not result in the image showing up, just a image icon, and one resulted in a link back to the photo in imgbb.  That is too cumbersome.  So Ken, any tips on how to plant the image url into a post so that is displays as an image?

I registered for the Free account.so my photos are saved. Earlier in this thread when some of my pictures disappeared it was because I deleted them from IMGBB and had to upload them again to put them back on CCF. IMGBB didn't create the pronlem..........I did it all by myself Wink

Use the BBCode full  option

When you paste the BBCode full into the message box here on CCF, the code shows up when you kinda think there should be a picture showing up.

Next step, mutter a few things, scratch your head and then hit the  "preview" option and the picture is there.

Smile and then hit "post reply" and the picture is on CCF

You can probably skip the preview and just hit post reply and the picture gets posted, but I always hit preview before posting 

No guarantees but that's what works for me.


Posted By: andrewmarani
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 2:50pm

So that's what I get here with Google Photos using my convoluted method.  I tried the same operation on a different forum and the picture went up just fine so it's an issue here, not with the method.  

I was trying to dodge IMGBB because there are limits to the amount of data you can keep there without ponying up cash and some other minimum stuff but looks like that's the way to go.  Or one way that we know works anyway.


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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 3:12pm
Still not quite sure what you mean by the "BB Full Code Option"  the [img} thing doesnt work and the [url] thing doesnt work.  Can you post what your entered url/bb code entry looks like?  Interesting that if the image is gone from imgbb it is gone from here, meaning it is not copying the photo to here, but rather posting a link.  Come to think if it, I guess thats the way photobucket worked to, just never occurred to me that was the case.


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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 3:28pm

I don't know if this screenshot helps Larry, this is on my laptop since I just learned how to do a screenshot and find it afterwards so I could post it here Wink


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 3:44pm


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 3:46pm
https://imgbb.com/" rel="nofollow">

Well shoot, that's relatively (relative to CCF procedures, not relative to other website procedures).  I had never drilled down to the upload options in imgbb to see the "full" option.  Didnt know if you were referring to a CCF option or an imgbb option.

Dont love the idea of having to store every photo we upload "permanently" on imgbb, but if its our only choice.....  Just save your photos at home too, in case they decide to take your photos hostage like photobucket did.


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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 3:59pm

Ok, just confirming that an idiot like me can do this too.  Thanks Ken, that's actually fairly simple.  For some reason my linked address had to be edited to get rid of url and img codes front and rear, but easy to figure out.



Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 4:02pm
Good job Larry Wink

Since you're a lot more computer literate than me, it would probably be best for the rest of the CCF people if you could maybe explain the process in easily understandable terms.

No need at all for the "CCF picture process"

It really is pretty easy after you figure it out.

I have any pictures that are on IMGBB saved in my computer/phone just to be safe.

Pretty soon everybody will be posting pictures of everything Wink


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:


Ok, just confirming that an idiot like me can do this too.  Thanks Ken, that's actually fairly simple.  For some reason my linked address had to be edited to get rid of url and img codes front and rear, but easy to figure out.


We're getting there now, 2 self professed idiots, (that would be me and you Wink) have done it


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 5:31pm
And now the big test. From my phone….

https://ibb.co/tCJ11vc" rel="nofollow">


Edit:   I think I got it. Next test. Since I didn’t register, let’s see if my 2 photos disappear in the next few hours/days. I am guessing since Ken’s did, mine will

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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

 Since I didn’t register, let’s see if my 2 photos disappear in the next few hours/days. I am guessing since Ken’s did, mine will

Mine disappeared because I deleted them while playing around on IMGBB, yours should be OK. as long as you don't do anything to get rid of them.

I had to upload them again to put the deleted pictures back here on CCF


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-02-2023 at 8:20pm
More good news.  Even tho there are a couple more steps than the original ccf upload (probably no more than  in the new ccf upload) You can upload multiple photos in one step, making, actually, easier than the old way.  so you guys doing projects that you've been dying to show us, can upload several at a time in one easy step to show us your progress.

Per Ken's request, I will post step by step in a new/separate thread.


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“So, how was your weekend?”
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-03-2023 at 6:58am



Three at once, just like Larry said Wink


Posted By: Tomrupp
Date Posted: February-03-2023 at 11:44am
https://ibb.co/MgxhVZC
Nice work guys! Thank you.

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94 Ski Nautique Open Bow 351 with Carb
95 Double Decker Aqua Patio with 50hp Honda (3 carbs).


Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: February-03-2023 at 11:54am
https://ibb.co/WsxFC33" rel="nofollow">

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