Bargain Super Sport: A quest to join team red.
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Topic: Bargain Super Sport: A quest to join team red.
Posted By: Blamey
Subject: Bargain Super Sport: A quest to join team red.
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:11pm
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Some of you who were following along in the 'Recommendation for boat' thread but I am in the process of buying a 1996 Super Sport that was originally posted in that thread. The boat is listed for just over 10K, which if you follow Super Sport prices is about 4k to 6k less then what they usually go for. Here is a pic (Team Red Yay)  I thought I'd create a post to document my purchase and see if this boat turns out to be the deal it appears to be and hopefully get some advice along the way. This will be my second Nautique. I currently own a 1995 Sport which I bought 18 months ago. I have been wanting to switch to a super sport as I mostly wakeboard and feel the layout and storage of a Super Sport would be better for the family. So after the original post of the Ad on Sunday (thanks Jonas) I called the Marina that had it listed but they were closed Sunday and again on Monday. I called back on Tuesday morning and inquired about the boat. The boat was a trade in but the boat had been on the lake for several years and was known to the marina manager who said it was kept on a lift during the season. I asked for a compression check, which they were happy to do and it cam back with all cylinders in the mid to high 120's. Happy with the pictures, details from the marina manager and compression check I put a deposit on the boat. I currently live in Westchester New York and the boat is down in Virginia about a $500 mile trip. As luck would have it I have a business trip planned in DC on Wednesday and Thursday next week, So I'll drive down for that and then head to Virginia Thursday afternoon to pickup the boat and drive to my home lake Friday. So that is the start of the the story. I'll document it as I go and as I work to get the boat back to tip top shape. I plan to keep my old Sport Nautique until I have ironed out any issues with the Super Sport. Any advice for the trip and purchase is welcomed. My first question is what do most of you do about trailer licenses in this situation? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
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Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:26pm
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I would think that a proper "Bill of Sale" for the boat and the trailer. Along with signed titles for the boat and trailer (not sure is Virginia titles boats, but most likely trailers) would get you back home. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:28pm
I called the marina after making the post and they said they can provide a temp 5 day permit, which will get em home. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
jimsport93 wrote:Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:35pm
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I have asked the Marina to service the trailer before the trip. I was thinking of picking up a spare tire for the trip, anybody know what size I need for that age Ramlin? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:45pm
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Hey- I recognize that lot. Is that Conrad Brothers? Those are my peeps! You want me to look it over!? If it is Conrad Bros at SML - then you are 4+ hrs from DC. Va has boat and trailer titles... which is good for you. Boats and trailers w/o titles can be very difficult in states that care. Owners Mike/Ruth (SML) and Dean/Carol (Claytor) are terrific. Tell them to get the trailer ready and it will be ready. I can look things over as well. These guys sold Inboards back in the day, but the only ones you'll see there now are my Nautiques. VERY trustworthy folks! Congrats! ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 3:57pm
Yes and yes. It is at Conrad brothers and if you have the time to put some eyes on the boat (or even a test drive), that would be amazing. The Marina seems pretty straight up and said that the boat was running as it was driven over to them last week and were pretty open about an issues that were aware. I'd like to keep my turn around time as short as possible so if someone is able to help with that, that would be great. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 4:00pm
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Is that trailer 5 or 6 lug? If 5 perhaps the wheel/tires from your sport trailer could be brought along for spares. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 4:01pm
Yeah, they told me they sold Nautiques until around 92 or 93. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 4:10pm
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Well, they sold Mastercrafts before, during and a ways after that. They have helped me with my Nautiques since we ordered our first Nautique from Correct Craft in 91 - a 92 Excel from them at Claytor Lake. Terrific folks - the ONLY - ones to deal with at SML IMHO. PM me your # . BTW - this is NOT a marina. They are not on the water at SML (they are at Claytor Lake). They have water access at SML - 15 minutes down the road, FWIW. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 4:12pm
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Nice start to the thread. Just check every switch and moving part and make sure the stuff that isn't supposed to move stays put. If it starts and runs, just check oil pressure and make sure it's charging. Vdrive oil (40w) and tranny fluid (atf) shoul be their usual colors and clear. Compression check--was a good idea. How many hours are on the engine? Check for vibration and inspect the running gear for anything they looks to have been repaired, and make sure everything is straight. Water test; tracks straight, steering not too tight or loose on center....you know this drill by now. |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 4:32pm
It's a 20-year-old boat..... it's gonna need stuff. The question is how much and what cost. Just start a checklist................all can be managed (that's what we do here) but being stranded roadside is NOT acceptable! Been there, done that!  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 5:07pm
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What v drive is in the 96's Pete? Mine is a Walters and uses 20w non detergent. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 5:11pm
| Oops. Yup it's 20W. Yeah it's one of those goofy Walters. |
Posted By: kylem428
Date Posted: April-05-2017 at 10:50pm
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Congrats on the find and excellent respect shown by the members on this site! I am presently in your boat with both a sport (94) and a super sport (95). I'd like to get them side by side on the water but the ice isn't gone yet so I don't know if it will happen before the sport sells. Kyle |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-08-2017 at 10:23pm
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Thanks to Steve (Air206) who went to check out the boat today and all looks good. Only major issues are the sun pad and bow bottom need to be replaced. Trailer and gel look both look good. I'll need a turn buckle for the trip, I found one in the basement but don't know if it's the one I got for my trailer from Nautique Parts. Does anyone have measurements of know how I can tell what the specs of the turnbuckle could be? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Mike9812121298
Date Posted: April-08-2017 at 10:47pm
| nice looking boat, i hope everything turns out for you! keep the updates comming |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-08-2017 at 11:15pm
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Maybe just to get it home you could use a shackle and put that in on the trailer end where the turnbuckle normally goes and then use a length of chain and a hook to connect up to the bow ring. That way if you need to adjust more than your turnbuckle can handle it can be easily done and not interrupt your trip. You can then work on the turnbuckle setup at your leisure at home,something to think about ... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 9:17am
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Steve to the rescue! That's what this group is all about! Good luck with it! ------------- Js |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 10:57am
As hearby elected Captain of Team Red your quest to be admitted to this respected, iconic, and sought after group will hereby be granted once you take possession of the boat AND you post more pictures of the boat so we all can see whatchagot. Submission pending......... Good luck with her and getting her safely home. Steve......you rock man! No better boat buds than CCFans!------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 11:41am
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It has 1/3 turnbuckle present and its mounting position is intact. Since they are prepping the trailer for you, I would ask Mike to check at Capps Building supply (next door) to see if they have the remainder (or if you have the remainder - go for it). I would go with Gary's idea of chain and shackles to get it home. It would be awful to launch and retrieve that way but you ain't gonna! BTW, you might want to make sure the tower is TIGHT and the speakers are managed (collapsable tower and speakers are wired external to the tower). That upper area looked too loose for 60+ mph plus the wind. Paul - note flip up tongue and NO rust! Yay http://i.imgur.com/Wr96iUh.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 11:51am
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BTW - Go Team Red! http://i.imgur.com/XS1OK9D.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">  First day out 2017 for the 91 BFN http://i.imgur.com/n2VSbeV.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">  The 1966 Al Tyll Skier coming home. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 12:35pm
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is that the Al Tyll? ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 8:42pm
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I was able to confirm I have the correct turn buckle. I went out to the lake today to get some trailer straps out of my sport and there is a 2002 Super Sport there on a Ramlin Trailer. I confirmed they were using the same size turnbuckle. Here are some pics that Steve sent me yesterday.        ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 9:00pm
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Looking good. What ever you do don't remove the Nautique Super Sport side decals,they cannot be found at the moment. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: rolleronariver
Date Posted: April-09-2017 at 9:29pm
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That's a great looking boat for that price!!! I wish I could get my hands on a v-drive for that cheap in that kind of shape! ------------- 92 Sport nautique |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: April-10-2017 at 12:24am
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Nice vinyl seat bases. Looks like you just need the big engine cover and front playpen--same pieces I needed. I got them both done with some too quality vinyl and matching colors locally with new foam for right at $600. Next: see how it drives and steers and all that goes with the water test! |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: April-10-2017 at 10:49am
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Hard to tell, but looks like the transom plug is currently out to let water drain from the boat. Just put one back in before putting in the lake. You will be excited to launch when you get home and could forget. As far as joining Team Red goes, Tim M. failed to speak about the Majestic Ritual and Hazing event to join. Lucky for me, I like goats. They are not so baddddddddd.  ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: April-10-2017 at 10:50am
Steve W. Yes it is and it is Buick Powered. Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 1:54am
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I picked the boat up today and after many hours of driving I am back home in Westchester NY. I left DC around 6:30 this morning, made it down to Smith Mountain Lake around midday. spent about 2 hours at the marina getting everything sorted and drove home and just got in at 11:30. It's been a long day and I am off to bed. I'll write a longer update tomorrow after I have taken the boat out for a ride. In the mean time here are a couple pics. Big thanks to Steve(Air206) who made the whole process much easier.   ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 7:17am
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She looks great! Good luck, it will be a great summer!! ------------- Js |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 7:50am
| I am looking forward to the full report with lots of photos later today! There's nothing like a shakeout cruise and report! |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 8:20am
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Boat looks awesome. Congratulations ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 9:36am
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Way to go Paul....nice boat! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 11:56am
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What a steal! Beautiful boat! ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 7:17pm
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Nice boat. Congrats. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 9:13pm
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So took the boat out for it's first test drive today. It was a perfect day. Sun was out, water was smooth. Wind was a little cold but that kept the other boats off the lake which meant I could drive it like I stole it. Here are the results. The good. - Engine runs well. managed to get it up to 45MPH (GPS) and tach went to 5000rpm. - Started great first time every time. Oil pressure and temp were great. - Overall the boat is in great condition. Very few rattles or shakes besides the tower. - Stereo works, lights work, blower and bilge pump work. - I really like the layout and storage the Super Sport offers over the Sport. - I still really liked the way it drove and didn't have any issue with hadling vs how the sport handles. Got a better look at the trailer once the boat was off it and it looks almost brand new. I am not sure if it has ever seen water. Oil looked great after ruining the boat for about an hour. No signs of water. The Bad (thing I know how to deal with) - Horn doesn't work. - Lots of rattles from the tower, Looks like it will need some tightening and some of the hardware needs to be replaced. - 3 or 4 pieces will need new vinyl - boat needs a new cover. which sucks because they somehow installed snaps for the current cover but it doesn't fit. The Ugly (things that will need a bit more work to figure out) - One of the seat bases is cracked pretty bad and is pretty much not usable until it is repaired. . Another has a crack, is still usable but looks like it will need repair sooner rather than later. - There was a small vibration, that was more noticeable during acceleration. I noticed after taking the boat out the water that the prop was lose on the shaft and I could move if up and back and forth on the shaft. Hoping this is related to the issue. I have a new prop so I will start with replacing the prop on the boat and I will also check the alignment. I have a 644 prop I bought last week, ready to be lapped and installed. Overall I would say so far so good. For the price, I still feel well ahead I should be able to fix the Vinyl for about $1000 and maybe the same for the cover. and maybe a few hundred bucks for the our part, putting me at still under 13k. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 9:18pm
Here are some pictures of the boat from toady .       ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 9:32pm
And hear are some picks of the cracked seat base. in the second picture the bottom right corner, the piece is completely broken off. Can this be glued back together? what would/should I use.   ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-14-2017 at 9:57pm
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Paul, I feel the seat base is the expanded PVC sheet. I would overlay the crack(s) with a 1/8" PVC sheet glued to the original with PVC cement. Use the heavy body cement for PVC pipe over 6" in diameter. The patch may not lay flat on the old base, so will need to run some screws in temporarily to suck the two together. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 12:06am
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The horn-- check the terminals. I bet one came off under the flip up passenger seat. That's how I fixed mine. Yeah that loose prop will certainly cause vibration!!! The 644 should give you a lot more revs and probably a little more speed too. That tower--not sure if it's going to tighten up but as you said, it's worth it to give it a run and make sure it's tight to the hull and all joints tightened. I like the pvc repair method recommended. That ought to work. How nice to have a successful shakeout. Thanks for the detailed pics and show us the seat base repair in case any of us need it down the road. Congratulations on buying a great bargain Super Sport. |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 12:35am
| Nice looking boat! I am surprised the sun deck is so worn considering the looks of the rest of the boat, but I guess that is a large piece of vinyl that gets the most exposure. Cheers to the new ride. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 1:06am
I just found out mine went 45.3 @ 4900 rpm on it's original water test in 1995 with a 14x18 prop. It now runs 46.2 @ 4700 with a Acme 13x17.5 4 blade. So yours is running right where it should be it seems. My horn quit also last summer,like Pete's the wires had fallen off. When you go to change the cover on the back pad check the tightness of the bracket that holds the lift cylinder to it. Maybe even remove it and reattach with locktight or use nylon stop nuts. Mine is loose and I don't want to remove the upholstery just to tighten it  You got a great deal I'm really surprised that it was still available. You were supposed to get it!------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 9:00am
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I think the vinyl issue is so bad due to sunscreen being used applied on the sun deck. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 9:57am
Thanks for the advice Pete., Not sure is it's clear in the pic but the PVC is about an inch think. Do you think I should use the PVC cement to glue the cracked pieces together before adding the 1/8 " piece? Also if I wanted to try refabricate the base. How would I go about creating the bend in the base? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 10:07am
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Paul, Gluing the busted pieces together won't hurt but they may not fit together tight enough to get a good bond. I do suggest still using the 1/8". ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 10:48am
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It looks like you got an amazing deal on that boat, when you can drop it in the water and run it hard right away you know you've done well. Good luck with it! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 9:24pm
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I know a guy with a newer V-Drive Sport Nautique this repaired his seat that was bent with some Star Board. Star Board is High Density Polyethylene (HDP) and can be found in all kinds of sizes and thickness on E-Bay. West Marine sells some 24" x 24", but they are more expensive than E-Bay. This stuff is heavy so do not got as thick and you might think you need. He removed the old skin and then used a staple gun to put the old skin on the new Star Board. The used the old bent piece to get his measurements. FYI, Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 9:44pm
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I would think you will get a bit more speed at slightly lower RPMs with a new prop, properly installed. As to the cover, not sure where the fit is off. But, if it is a Canvas Cover, you may want to get it wet in the hot sun, and stretch it. Neighbors was off by probably 4 inches. We were able to stretch till it fit. Once on, if you can leave it in place for a couple of weeks, it is helpful. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: April-15-2017 at 10:15pm
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No, there's no stretching THAT cover. It appears as though they bought a cover for a SS with a factory FCT (leg spacing). Then screwed in the snaps to "make it work". It was under cover in a lift year-round, so they just needed to keep the birds and the mud daubers out if it. What I would do, is take it to a boat upholstery place (that does clear curtains for cabin cruisers) have them lay out a new cover and place the snaps where they are currently located - NO MORE HOLES! BTW - nice boat!  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: April-18-2017 at 3:31pm
This is great advice. You should also do the same with the hinges as I have seen a few posts over the years from people asking how to tighten those up. I went the locktight route when I had my sun pad redone 5 years ago and everything is still solid. Good luck with everything! Seems like you got a great deal! ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 10:38am
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One more thing that came with the boat that I had not posted yet. An immaculate Original Owners manual. Always a good sign. It also includes the receipt of any add-ons purchased (tower, board racks, stereo etc).  ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 12:26pm
I agree, that is always nice to see.  ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 12:57pm
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This week I have done a little purchasing online. Picked up some small maintenance items. - New rub rail insert went with the red McMaster Carr option as Integrity Marine has a $100 minimum on Orders. - New shaft packing as the shaft was dripping a little fast 10 to 15 drips a minute. I'll try tightening it first but if that doesnt work I have the packing to install. - New water strainer Screen - New shift knob. Hoping to get a chance this weekend to work on installing the new prop and seeing if that gets my RPM down and eliminates the vibration. I have also booked an appointment with the local upholstery guy to work on the cover and some of the broken seats. He is pretty booked up so earliest he can work on the boat is mid may. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 2:00pm
The pieces do still fit together pretty tight. My plan here is to glue them together to get the basic shape back then add the 1\8" overlay. My question is will pvc cement be the best option for gluing the pieces back together?? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: kylem428
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 3:03pm
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Having been in your shoes 5 months ago with my "new" super Sport, I would strongly encourage you to build a new seat base out of Star Board or HDPE plastic. Use the original as a template and cut a new shape with a jigsaw. Sand the corners and round off the edges, drill drain holes, then heat the bend area with a gun or torch to bend in to shape. I'd cut a slight relief in the bottom at the bend with the table saw if I were to do it again. Bending was the longest part of the process. I have about 2 hours in the new base. Those rear bench corner cushions take a beating. Mine was shattered in to about 5 pieces from what I expect was a constant entry point in to the boat and people stepping on the cushion. You may be able to glue it back together and it may hold for a little while, but when it breaks again you will need to pull the skin, backing,foam, hidem, etc all off again to start over. I tell people not to step on cushions but it happens and it only takes one person to do it and that expanded pvc will blow apart again. Just my .02 Kyle |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 3:17pm
Do what you want but if I were you I would test fit the the McMaster pipe before you remove all of the original. It did not fit as tight in my rubrail and being a softer more pliable plastic I was worried that it would have a tendency to catch and roll out of the groove. I ended up not using it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 6:49pm
Paul, I suggested the PVC pipe cement (heavy body) since it's a solvent cement. Solvent cements actually dissolve the surface of the plastic so in theory when the solvent flashes off the two pieces become one piece. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-19-2017 at 7:18pm
I've already put it in my Sport and was happy with it. I agree it's a bit soft but at least it goes in easily.it would sometimes come out a bit when rubbing on the trailer bow stop bit would push back it just fine. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 1:38am
| I went to work on my 2002 SS on Tuesday and here it was a 96 SS on the same parking lot! Congrats on the boat! Hopefully, I will be working on ballast this weekend so I might see you. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 10:39am
I know your boat well. I Always check it out when driving out after parking mine. It is a real nice super sport. Where did you get your cover? I plan to copy it for my boat. Have you had any issues with it? Good to know your on CCF. I was checking out your trailer last week to size up the tires and turnbuckle I needed for my boat. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 10:45am
Wouldn't it be quicker and easier to stop by some night and steal his cover, tires, and turnbuckle? Why go to all the trouble of ordering the stuff? ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 1:18pm
Last week when I needed a spare tire for my trip I did wonder if he would.mind me borrow information his for a couple days. Unfortunately, since he has a Flight Control, the cover won't fit. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 1:58pm
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Paul, see you are in White Plains, where do you use or keep your boat(s)?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 2:03pm
| Thanx for kind words. Im usually on planetnautique but I saw your boat and couldn't resist not to register;) Cover came with the boat and i like the way it works. I had 98 SS before and cover seemed to be bigger covering platform and reaching down more. A few things Im installing this month are ballast, hydrophase gps and some other staff so I ll be there often. Also thinking about upgrading to tandem trailer but can't find anything near and price friendly |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 3:09pm
I keep them out at Greenwood lake. I like the lake but not many places to hide when it gets busy and it gets busy early on weekends. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 3:15pm
I keep my boat in the water for a few days during summer, so I want a cover that doesn't cover the platform so I can use it while the boat is in the water. Very interested to see what you do with the ballast install as it will be on my list in the near future (probably next year) I am assuming that you didn't have perfect pass in the boat. I make a world of difference having speed control. Basically make any driver expert level and really helps with riding consistency. I'll come chat if I see you. Where do you launch your boat? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 4:54pm
| I go to greenwood lake mostly evenings and weekends Im at upstate ny lakes. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 7:06pm
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Do you pick the boat up from Greenwood then head upstate? Any recommendations? I'd like to do some exploring of other options this summer. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-20-2017 at 7:33pm
| Yes I am. You know how crowded Greenwood can be and no spots with flat waters for wakeboarding. Im up at monticello ny area. There are few decent lakes out there. |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-23-2017 at 11:49pm
| Hi Paul, how did you like your new prop? I also noticed new tower speakers too. I ran to sears to get some ss screws and when I came back you left already. I ll be there next weekend to work on electrical part. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-24-2017 at 12:18am
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I didn't get much of a chance to test the prop. The kids both started crying when I tried to go WOT. I did get up to 43mph. We ended up just floating, having lunch and installing the speakers. And as I said I went for a very quick swim. From the little bit of driving I did the new prop did seem to fix the vibration I felt last week, but I'll need a bit more time to be sure. I am having an issue with the way the engine is running. Kind of feels like there is a slipping when accelerating. I'll need to drive the boat more to confirm what it is. I also hear something in the way the engine Sounds, difficult to describe but is sounds like a lopping or the engine is loosing rpm but only slightly every 2 or 3 seconds. I do that see any change in the rpm. This seems to be happening at slow of fast speeds but I couldn't here it at idle. I'll need to test some more. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: April-24-2017 at 12:34am
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I am wondering if I have synthetic ATM and that's what I am feeling. Anybody know what the symptoms of running synthetic are. What does a slipping transmission feel lime.? My reverse also seems a little slow to engage vs my Sport. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: a.klos
Date Posted: April-24-2017 at 12:56am
| I m very transmission sensitive so I would check and may be change new oil. I'm not sure which is in mine since the dealer performed transmission repair. Also check essentials like ignition cables, distributor. Also water in fuel filter is known to cause some hassitation after winter. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-01-2017 at 7:32pm
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Quick Question. I noticed my plug wires on the engine (GT40) are grey, rather than red. Anybody know if the plug wires for the GT40 were ever grey? Quick Update. Got to take the boat out for a good test (early morning, no boats buttery water) run this weekend after changing the transmission fluid. Boat ran great. Very smooth. I still have a very minor hesitation or loping that is mostly noticeable low RPM (less then 1500). Didn't seem as noticeable in neutral as it did in gear. I also got a hesitation at WOT twice. It was just a brief loss of power then straight back up to full speed. I assume this is older GAS. I was able to hit 44MPH with the new 644, which as far as I ca tell pretty good for that prop on a SS. So overall the engine appears to be running strong. Still lots to do but the more I use the boat the happier I am with my purchase. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: May-01-2017 at 8:38pm
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I had to work through a bunch of issues like what you're experiencing early in the time I had just started to use my SS. The ones that don't go away are going to be obvious and you'll find the loping idle and occasional WOT hesitation to be solvable with a little troubleshooting and reading the poor man's GT-40 troubleshooting guidelines. Enjoy, take it slow and be methodical and you'll avoid frustrations. Once you get these engines running, they treat you very well. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-01-2017 at 8:51pm
| OEM Ford wires are grey it's possible someone switched. Anything printed on them? |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: May-01-2017 at 10:03pm
| ^^^What Gary said, I've run the gray OEM wires on my GT-40 with no difference. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-05-2017 at 10:34am
They say PCM pro-tech on them just like the red ones I picked up from Nautique Parts. I'm gonna switch them and the plugs, cap and rotor just so I know it's done. I've got all the parts just need to find the time. At this point I am torn between spending time on the Sport to get it ready to sell or the Super Sport to get it ready to for summer. My head tells me to work on the Sport but my heart wants to play with the new toy. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-05-2017 at 10:42am
I've gone through this with my Sport and still get the occasional loping at idle when wakeboarding. I'll work on the basics first. I'm still running my first tank of gas and I have no idea how old it is. So that's number one. I need to change my FCC fuel filter, V drive fluid and check the anti siphon value. I'll also test the fuel pressure and may change out the relays. The loping is very slight and hardly noticable. I don't see any change on the tach but I'm going to hopefully install perfect pass this weekend and see if I get a better read from the digital tach. Any insights into what your issues were and how you fixed them? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 10:45pm
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So after a couple weeks off today was my first day out with the whole family. Unfortunately my son, who last year loved the boat, is very cautious this year and won't let us go fast than idle. I am sure he will get used to it again. Overall it was fun day out with the family. Unfortunately it looks like I may have a leak in my V-drive. after does a little research, it's common for the gasket on the oil pan to fail. I noticed the V drive light wasn't going off. checked the V drive dipstick and it was dry. added around a half quart to get it to the full line on the dip stick. I'll be monitoring the V-drive oil for the next few weeks to see how bad the leak is. I also managed to crack the top of the dip stick. I'm hoping I'll be able to JB weld it back together. As a new one is about $90. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 10:51pm
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Did it crack around where the o ring sits? I broke mine the first time I removed it too. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 11:19pm
Yup, I can still use it but I am afraid of breaking it some more and loosing a piece into the V-drive. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 11:41pm
Did you fix or replace the dip stick? If you replaced it, where did you get the replacement? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 11:41pm
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3 years ago they were 37.00 direct from them.The gate keeper,the woman who answers the phone there, told me I needed some gasket which I ended up not using. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: May-27-2017 at 11:51pm
Thanks, I'll give them a call Monday. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-28-2017 at 6:55am
At least you didn't need to purchase those Walters extra super special bearings!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-28-2017 at 11:26am
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I vaguely remember that discussion with Eric but in not owning one yet don't remember the particulars. I do change the oil in it every year with the "special" 30 weight non detergent oil ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-05-2017 at 6:00pm
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So June got a little busy and I have been putting off posting updates because I keep forgetting to take pictures and I still haven't but thought I'd update anyway. Firstly most of my time at the start of the month went to selling the Sport Nautique. Got the boat de-winterized, cleaned up and new vinyl installed just in time to sell her. So now I have time to start work on the Super Sport. So far the boat has been great and I haven't had any major issues to speak of (that I didn't cause, but more on that later). I am pretty much ready to declare this a major bargain. Considering the overall condition of the hull\gelcoat (no major issues), trailer(apart from some scratches near the tongue the trailer looks brand new) and engine (runs like a top), I think this really was the bargain it appears to be. Here is what I have gotten done since my last update. V-Drive V-Drive fluid. I don't seem to have any more issues with the V-Drive fluid and it appears to be holding since I filled it up at teh end of may. I still need to try and change it out though. Upholstery and cover I had the rear sun pad replaced. This was probably the biggest issue with the boat as the old pad was in terrible shape. This alone appears to have made a huge difference to the appearance of the boat. I also had the port side rear seat base rebuilt. He also fixed the cover, which appeared to have been made for a boat with a difference style tower and didn't fit properly. Total for the stern seat, sun pad and cover was $600 and the work was top notch. Upholsterer that I use is great but slow. He is working through the rest of the seat bottoms as they all had some type of issue and I think that's all I'll do this summer. Over the winter I may replace a few other pieces. Installed perfect Pass Transferred the perfect pass Stargazer from the Sport to the Super Sport. I haven't finalized the install as I still need to route the servo wire under the floor from the engine to the dash. Currently it's running temporarily along the gunnel, but doesn't reach were I want to have the PP master module installed. Stereo I replace the tower speakers, head unit and amp as they all had issues of one kind of another. I currently have the amp powering 2 Polk MM651UM tower speakers and the 4 original clarion in boat speakers. I have got to say, the clarions, which are original to the boat and over 20 years old still sound pretty good. That said I picked up 4 wetsound XS-650's on closeout sale at sonic electronics for $130 a pair and will be replacing the 4 in boat speakers with these shortly.. I am getting engine noise when using the boat when listening to the stereo while driinving but will probably leave this for now as we don't really listen to the stereo much when driving. Blower Blower, which was the original part was making some pretty heinous noise and going out intermittently., decided to replace it. Great upgrade and the new blower is much quieter. Simple $30 update. Horn As suggested above, the issue with the horn was just a loose wire, I fixed this but it has since come loose again. Will probably need to replace the quick connect. Gelcoat Trying to figure out my best plan of attack on detailing the boat. The hull looks pretty good overall but has some water spots that still remain even after hitting it with an 800 wet sand on a test area. I am working my way around the boat with 3m Restorer Wax which should hold me off till the end of the season where I'll do a full Super Duty and Finesse it detail before the boat goes up for the winter. Tune up So If you look back I did complain that the engine had a bit of a lopping or misfire, not really sure how to describe it but basically the engine had a minor surge when driving where the RPM would fluctuate up an down about 100 RPM. I decided to give the boat a tune up and replace the wires, cap and rotor and this issues appears to be resolved. I did however have a small engine fire last Friday night when the new coil wire caught fire. I had issues when trying to fit the wire at the coil side as the connection was under the plastic engine cover. I guess that I didn't have the wire properly seated and it was arcing and caught fire. The engine surged a couple of times while my wife was driving. She stopped and said she could smell something burning. Opened the engine hatch and the was a small fire. Pulled the extinguisher and after fiddling with it for about 10 seconds, managed to get the firs put out. Only major damage was to the wire, but we were still able to start the boat up and run the boat back the 1/2 mile to the Marina. A quick trip to the auto parts store and we had a new wire and we were back on the water. So apart from the little fire which I believe was my fault, we haven't had any issues with the boat and have really been enjoying it. So far I am still money ahead as I got more for the Sport than I paid for the Super Sport which to me is what makes the a real bargain. I'll update with some pics soon. I really don't have too much left to do on the boat, the list here is my current to do list -Install tower Bimini. (should have the order in this week) - Install new in boat speakers. - Clean extinguisher residue off engine - Get the Gel coat shiny. ] ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: rolleronariver
Date Posted: July-05-2017 at 7:24pm
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Wow, if I caught my engine on fire my shorts would be wet enough to put it out. That would scare me to death. Other then that, it looks like you got a great buy! congrats!! ------------- 92 Sport nautique |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-05-2017 at 10:01pm
------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-06-2017 at 1:27pm
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Donald, Thanks for the input. I am aware of the cause of the issue. I just don't have an exact solution yet. I do want to upgrade my AMP wiring as I use the 10 Gage wires that were there but I want to upgrade to 4 Gage. for the amp. When I do this I'll run the power and ground wires for the stereo off these and I'll probably use a relay on the acc wire so I can still wire this through the dash. Any suggestions on how to split the 4 Gage amp wire from the battery to the head unit? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: rolleronariver
Date Posted: July-06-2017 at 1:41pm
I used a different brand but this works well. https://www.jbtoolsales.com/audiopipe-appb1020-1-to-2-power-distribution-block/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwv_fKBRCG8a3ao-OQuZ8BEiQAvpHp6Haj_FNlPhdxFsSMZCeEcBVjORMuktiN7BicGJMiyaYaAqFD8P8HAQ" rel="nofollow - splitter ------------- 92 Sport nautique |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-06-2017 at 10:18pm
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Chris is right. I have three amps (Sub, Tower, in boat) and I used a four position distribution block by Wet Sounds that had one 1./0 inlet and four 4 gage outlets. Three of the four gage outlets went to each amp. I then used a very short piece of 4 gage wire for the fourth hole with an electrical connector on the end. I then attached my red power wire via another connector (Connector to Connector). I did the same for the grounds. So I purchased two Wet Sound Four position distribution blocks that have fuses in each position . I sized the fuses to match the amp or the head unit and zone controller. I am sure there are other creative ways to skin the cat. You may want to go with more positions than you need now for future expansion. If you want to add more amps in the future you will be able to easily expand. There are a lot of different makers of these. A great web-site for supplies is KnuKonceptz .com. I used their wire for speakers and power and ground.  ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 10:22am
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Thanks guys. I use KnuKonceptz for all my stereo stuff. I have used the distro boxes before for down gaging but what I am looking for is something that would be better to run the stereo power wire from. Meaning I'll have an input of 4 Gage and an output of 4 Gage and 16 Gage. The 16 Gage would run to the Head Unit to power it. How are you wiring the power for the HU? Can I just run a wire from the amp power connecter to the head unit. Basically tap into the amp wire? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 1:18pm
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I used Buss Bars under the dash. I ended up with three of them. One of them is for all of the ground / negative leads and the second was the Red / Positive leads and the third was for the signal wires (Amp on and off together). If you look at the photo below, you will see a black Wet Sound signal wire that hangs down. This black cable has the positive, negative and the blue signal wire all in one. That wire goes over to the two distribution block and the blue wire to the amps.  This is an early photo and one of the jumpers at the blue and red fuse has not yet been removed. You can see that on the negative or ground distribution block you can see that all of the jumpers are installed for ground.  I installed all three amps on the wall of the boat to keep my storage space.  Let me know if you have any more questions Thanks, Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 2:42pm
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Donald, This is very helpful, Nice setup. How did you attach the amps to the side wall? ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 3:35pm
I driller 12 holes through the side of the boat. I then covered the outside of the holes with male snaps. The holes are covered but it just looks like a screwed up cover job. Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 3:59pm
Their is a company out west titled The Flight Shop and they make standoffs and such for aircraft. I ordered several sizes of Standoff's for this project. I used card board templates to determine where to put the standoffs so I would have somewhere to mount to. You remove small patches of carpet and sand the inside of the boat. Then you glue the standoff with crazy strong aircraft epoxy. The plastic squares you see are temporary. They have double stick tape on the feet to hold them in place while the epoxy dries. Then you pull of the square triangle like support and you are left with a threaded screw sticking out to mount the amp and distribution blocks too. No holes were drilled in the boat side.    I next cut some black ABS plastic slightly larger than the amp to cover the four carpet squares under the amp. I then placed the Amp on top of the standoffs. The only thing I would do different if I was to do this again is use wooden patterns instead of cardboard. The holes became disfigured. Wood would be heavy, but the holes would stand up better on my pattern. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-07-2017 at 4:02pm
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Everything is hidden behind the Observer Seat and the side Combing Pads. I still maintained my storage under the seat. There is room to tune each amp. Works like a champ. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: smithra
Date Posted: July-27-2017 at 2:03pm
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I just joined the forum. Congrat's on the purchase...Great price! I purchased the same boat last year at Deep Creel Marina in Maryland. I am a newbie to the boat world but our family loves the boat and my 14 year old son is just starting to try wake boarding. I hope to keep in touch and hopefully we can share any relevant experiences. I have included a few lame pictures of the boat. All the best.   ------------- 1996 Super Sport Deep Creek MD |