PROPS
Printed From: CorrectCraftFan.com
Category: Buy and Sell
Forum Name: Boat Parts For Sale
Forum Discription: Parts for sale only
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40222
Printed Date: June-17-2024 at 3:08am
Topic: PROPS
Posted By: PROPGUY
Subject: PROPS
Date Posted: November-22-2016 at 7:19pm
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PROPELLERS FOR SALE AND PROPELLERS RECONDITIONED: I CAN REWORK YOUR PROPELLER, SELL YOU A RECONDITIONED ONE OR SELL YOU A NEW ONE. I AM LOCATED IN FLORIDA BUT GET PROPS SHIPPED FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I AM A OJ AND ACME DEALER. PRICING ON PROP RECONDITIONING IS $2.50 PER INCH PER BLADE (13" x 2.50 x 3 = 97.50 FOR 13 INCH 3 BLADE) SHIPPING IS USUALLY ABOUT $15.00. CONTACT ME AT AMERICAN PROPELLER. ROB |
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 12:41pm
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12 x 10 x 1. LH ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 12:55pm
| Your looking for a 12x10? Federal? OJ? What boat? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 1:45pm
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12 x 7 x 1" RH or a 12 x 6 x 1" RH ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 2:14pm
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36-24-36 both hands ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 2:22pm
| Ok, I guess Correctcraft fans is full of a bunch of jokers.... |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 2:29pm
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Congrats on finding the caps lock button. If you want to advertise your business here send an email to keith@correctcraftfan.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 3:13pm
Rob, I was NOT joking. I need ether one of these props.
Make and model of the boat is irrelevant but since you asked Marty, ether of these props will go on a 1915 16" launch with a 1927 Universal Flexifour. A repitch will most likely be needed once it's in the water and tested. I too would like to mention getting in touch with Keith for advertising. Your posts are on the verge of SPAM!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
PROPGUY wrote:Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 4:52pm
| One post is considered spam? I was posting/advertising because I was offering a highly needed service that I thought would be appreciated not condoned. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 5:35pm
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Take a peak in the upper left corner of the screen and you will see the paid site sponsors like Delta Propeller. That is one avenue as HW mentioned or just hang out and be a positive contributor which would allow the members to get to know you. BTW, don't mind Pete's Spam post, he has a tendency towards drama, lol ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:06pm
| And quinner has a tendency towards sophomoric humor. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:07pm
| More like preschoolic |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:09pm
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:16pm
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In the words of Yogi Berra, this is like deja vu all over again. I remember some guy named Eric showing up in about the same way as PROPGUY just did. He got a totally rude, unfriendly welcome from a number of people, hung in there, put up with the crap thrown his way and became one of the more liked and respected members on the site. Most people would have been long gone. Gave a lot of good advice, helped a lot of people with their problems. Even ole Pete thought he was the best tranny guy ever. Maybe things will turn out the same with PROPGUY Just my 2 cents  |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:28pm
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Well said Ken! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 7:59pm
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Propguy, I"ll extend a much past due welcome to the group. As a rule most all of the members lend their own expertise to the group, be it in advice, knowledge, or a service. I am sure that you will fit into one or more of those categories. We even have lots that are just "lurkers" that soak up something from one or all of the above categories. If you have a boat then be sure to list it in the diaries section as we all like pictures and stories. Duane  ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 9:01pm
And I still need ether of the props I mentioned above!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 9:10pm
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Hey Propguy, Come over and check out my Nautique bar! Guys, Rob (Propguy) is a great guy, and a super all around skier with his specialty being barefooting. I think that in my discussion with him on what to do with the spare props and parts I had, I mentioned I was probably going to offer them up on CCF, and I bragged about what a great source of info it was, even if he needs help on his Sanger Barefoot boat. Anyhoo, I know he has skied with a number of guys on this site, and he was/is part of the Wrecking Crew, so cut him some slack. You never know, he might have the prop you need! Tom ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-23-2016 at 10:58pm
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got to 2nd seacampers comments.... Rob is a local guy who has skied with Eddie and I. He will be a good addition to our site. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: November-24-2016 at 9:32am
+2 OK, this makes some sense now. I thought it may have been Rob when this first started out but wasn't quite sure. In Rob's defense he is a good guy. Skied many times with him and was even present at his wedding. I've worked on his Sanger and he was actually the one driving my boat when the extended plyon hit the bridge.....DOOOO (Sorry Rob, just couldn't resist...LOL). He just got into this business opportunity and is trying to make a go at it so a little slack goes a long way. In the CCFan's defense, I can see where Rob could have been a little better at introducing himself. We've had some not too pleasant experiences in the past with spammers so these guys are constantly on their toes and can be brutal to anyone who comes on here with even the slightest hint of trying to make a quick buck off of somebody. Getting in their good graces could make for a very nice relationship for everybody involved. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-24-2016 at 10:08am
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Tom, John and Eddie, Thanks for filling us in on Rob. Yes, his introduction could have been better. My reaction to someone posting in all caps, slamming CC's ability to pull skiers and then stating his Malibu can pull 8, plus the obvious free business advertising got me off to a bad start. Rob, I do welcome you to CCfan, Fill us in on yourself as well as you prop business. Do consider becoming a site sponsor as it may be a good start to your business. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-26-2016 at 11:56pm
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Rob, I see you've been back on site a few times and just want to remind you that I still need ether of those two props! (12x6x1 RH or 12x7x1 RH) ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-27-2016 at 11:21am
| Pete, I'd think those were pretty difficult sizes to find. You're probably going to have to pay a big premium for those. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-27-2016 at 12:19pm
Pete You should explore the site a little more. There's an area titled "Boat parts wanted". It's pretty easy to find. You should put your post there instead of hijacking this thread. Be a little more descriptive too, do you want stainless,nibral, aluminum, plastic or what? How many blades? How much cup? |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-27-2016 at 10:50pm
Click on my Avatar 1966 Correct Craft Skylark LH Drive Universal Super Sabre Buick V-6 155 HP - 225 engine Velvet Drive 1:1 Transmission 12 x 12 x 1 Michigan 3 blade OEM - 4500 rpm - 38 mph 12 x 13 x 1 Michigan 3 blade -- 4400 rpm - 38 mph 12 x 11.5 x 1 ACME 3 blade - 4400 - 40 mph ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 8:57am
Ken, So, you pick on me and not Marty who was the second post!! BTW, Why would I put anything but a bronze prop on a 1915 boat with a 1927 engine? Got to keep it as close to original as possible!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 9:18am
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Hi Pete Now that you have a thread in the "Boat parts wanted" section I predict that you'll have no trouble at all finding your prop I figure you have more chance of winning the lottery and being attacked by a bear on the same day than finding your prop, but ya' never know. ..............after all the Cubs won the World Series this year so most anything can happen.Maybe we should start a pool to pick the date that Pete finds his prop. Day, month and year |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 10:21am
I already found the prop!! A Federal/Michigan Dyna-jet in bronze is a stock prop in both pitches. The DJ355 Federal/Michigan in bronze is my preferred choice and that model in both pitches is made to order with a lead time of 6 weeks. Cost does play a factor so I posted the need to see if a used prop will come up?? I do have some "feelers" out with my ACBS group as well. So, who wins the pool? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 10:47am
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You're the winner............................. when the prop is in your hand Just out of curiosity, what do they charge for a special order for something like that? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 10:56am
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Ken, Deep Blue has the DJ355 bronze 12" for $364.00 The list is $473.00. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 1:49pm
You should go with stainless, the flexing of the bronze prop when you channel those 15 HP through it will kill performance. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 2:59pm
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 3:26pm
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Pete have you actually been working on the launch or are you thinking ahead on the prop? Start a thread on it if you have some wood working done please. I'd like to see what you're up to. In the "off Topic" section of course.
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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 4:27pm
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Sure he came to sell props but we are going to fix his Sanger. What Sanger does he have? What's wrong with it? ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 5:13pm
??? Did I miss something? ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: November-28-2016 at 6:43pm
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Yeah I guess...see page 1...propguy has a specialty in barefooting and a Sanger with something wrong with it...maybe backfoot fixed it ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 10:56am
Hey Andy, His Sanger is an '88 DX with a 260 Mercruiser. Nice boat but it definitely could use some more ponies. It's either WFO or nothing for footing. Even then it only tops out about 40-41 with a footer in tow. A couple more MPH would be really nice. Gorgeous boat though. It had sat for some time because he gets pretty much all the skiing time he wants as part of the Gardens ski team. It just needed a good tune up which I did. Wires, points, plugs, cap, rotor, condenser. It would start and idle perfectly and we ran it around the lake for 15-20 minutes. It ran great. A week later he called me and said he was out driving a competitive trick skier. The boat ran great for about 30-45 minutes and then started missing really bad. It had rough idle, stumbling and finally die. He managed to get it back to the dock and let it sit overnight before he would look at it again. The next day he was amazed when it fired right up and it ran perfectly again for 30-45 minutes and the whole thing started all over again. In trying to get the boat back to the dock after one of these outings, he left the key on overnight which burned out the points and messed up the starter solenoid so I replaced the points again and replaced the starter solenoid.. I also removed, tested, cleaned and coated with NO-OX all the ignition wires from the starter switch, solenoid, starter, battery and wiring harness. I wanted to make sure that there were no wiring issues causing this problem. He had also loosened up the gas cap when this happened to make sure that the vent hose wasn't plugged. He removed and cleaned out the anti-siphon valve which was perfectly clean also eliminating fuel delivery issues. We were kinda baffled and I found a tech note online from Mercruiser about vapor lock issues on these engines. Mind you, I've never been a big believer in vapor lock as I've personally never experienced it so I was skeptical. We arranged to meet after work one day and see if we could get it to happen while I was with him. Remember, at this point I had not experienced any issues at all. I had tuned it and run it for 15 minutes and it had run beautifully. When I got there, he had everything cleaned out of the boat and the engine cover removed so we had no obstacles working on it. We beat the snot out of that thing for an hour and 20 minutes and didn't get so much as a hiccup out of it. It ran perfect with my only objection being it needs more ponies. The only thing I could possibly come up with was the vapor lock theory when the engine was installed. We found the air hoses from the deck air scoop to the bilge were rotted away and not allowing proper air flow through the bilge. I still contend that this single thing shouldn't cause vapor lock but what do I know. Then the next question is why would it now suddenly start to vapor lock when it has never done it before? To date, I haven't heard if he has had any issues since ordering new vent hoses but I don't know how much he's used it either. So that's the long winded version of what's wrong or what was wrong with his Sanger. WHEW!!!! ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 11:45am
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Vapor lock was common on the early MPEFI mercruisers, same as the early (pre-FCC) gt40's. A hot engine compartment would cause fuel evaporation on the high pressure side... No provisions on those motors to keep the hpp, lines or filter cool- the fuel return came back to the filter housing (not the tank) so add some heat and remove the flow and you get some heat soak/vapor lock. Experienced this on my 502 mpi, solution was to crack the motorbox after running. Not a great solution. I agree about the heat soak on a carb engine... Smells like BS. Check the fuel inlet screen on the carb, I've seen those partially plugged and cause strange issues (not necessarily symptoms like running out of fuel). |
Posted By: JD ski
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 2:13pm
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I had a car that was pron to vapor lock and the symptoms sound similar to what has been described. With the exception of the car would vapor lock while stopped in traffic (no air flow blowing through the motor compartment) heat would rise reaching the fuel lines and stall the motor. After it sat long enough it would start right up. Wrapping the fuel lines in tin foil and adding wooden close pins actually helped a little (looked horrible). If the motor temperature is still normal vapor lock may not be the issue. Although as this boat has some years on it another issue could arise. I have seen water jackets in the heads rusted closed and the temp gauge remained normal. But probably not. However, the boat issue sounds like it happens under load. You have checked all the normal issues with proper reasoning. The one thing I have not heard mentioned is moisture in the fuel. The boat is older and moisture can build up over time in a tank with condensation. I know you guys are aware of this but it has not been mentioned and this would happen under load. Something to look at. At my location we see temperatures as high as 115 and as low as -20. Condensation problems are not uncommon. I do not know if this would be a problem in Florida. I store my cars and boats with a full tank of gas (less room for condensation) and Sta-Bil in the tanks. I also frequently add Chevron Techroline fuel injector cleaner to all my vehicles carbed or injected In some cases you may need to purchase specific fuel/water treatments found in cold climates. ------------- JD ski, slicing, dicing, and shredding since 1981 1999 Air Nautique, GT40 Pro Boss, Trail Rite trailer 1975 Century Resorter |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 2:49pm
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Eddie, it would be interesting if your test run, thrashing the boat for over an hour without any issues, were repeated pretty closely with the motor box in place. If the problem occurred you'd be pretty well sure it was heat related, most likely vapor lock. I learned about vapor lock in the '80's and I don't think I've seen it happen in the last 2o years, which would jibe with the age of that boat. A couple of easy fixes would be to run the blower when idling or stopped, and to look at the stat that's in it and if 160, maybe run a bit cooler thermostat to keep the engine heat down. It would be nice if Rob checked back in to this thread. It's a free country and fine if he doesn't want to, but you can't be too thin skinned when posting online, have to learn to take a few shots and just roll with it, especially if you are looking to get a business going. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 4:51pm
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Eddie is that no-ox marine approved or telco approved ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 4:57pm
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88 Sanger not 98. Should be carbed but I didn't get a look under the motorbox when he had it over. Coil could be breaking down but you should have been able to repeat the symptoms. Eddie is no hack he would have been able to diagnose the problem had it reoccurred. All is well that ends well. Hi Rob. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 9:16pm
Rob, Can you do better than Deep Blue? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: November-29-2016 at 10:01pm
| Nope |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 10:31am
I said was an '88 and yes, definitely carbed with a Rochester which I know nothing about. Forgot to mention that the coil is also new. From SkiDim specifically for Mercruisers. The old one was so corroded that terminals were almost unrecognizable. In answer to your next question, it measures 1.5 ohms as the original did and Mercruisers use a resistance wire instead of a ballast resistor. The coil gets warm but not hot by any means. The fuel has also been replaced with new and new filter/water separator so we know that water in the fuel isn't an issue.. I had a two gallon gas can at the ready to swap in place of the fuel tank when we went for our test run but didn't have to use it so that aspect has not been verified. All the evidence thus far does point to vapor lock but again, I'm still skeptical. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 10:48am
LOL...I'm sure it isn't marine approved but by far the https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Special-Electrical-Contact-Corrosion/dp/B00HDF9EXE" rel="nofollow - best stuff I've ever used to prevent corrosion. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 3:51pm
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We've run the old carbed boats in over 100 degree weather without issues. We've seen them "load up" upon stop and shut down and becomes necessary to open throttle wide open to start. What prop does he have? My 260 would get 42 with a footer so it's really not too far off. But the rough running is strange given all that's been checked...maybe give the Rochester a kit. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 3:53pm
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Of course there is the $9000 solution...a complete fi 383 Merc stroker 350hp....they plug right in. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 7:03pm
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Eddie I know you know it's an 88. Someone started down the fuel injected road. Crummy fuel tank? Does he normally run low fuel? |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 7:20pm
I don't doubt eddies ability to identify the year of the boat, but perhaps the year/applicability of the Merc bulletin? My point was to confirm that vapor lock is real, but perhaps the bulletin wasn't appropriate for the 88 vintage engine and perhaps it was meant for a mid-late 90's counterpart (possibly with the same name?). Perhaps Merc's service bulletins were engineered only as well as their engines. |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 9:29pm
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I guess I am Rob's first CCF customer. Here is the 542 he finished: http://s266.photobucket.com/user/turninggrey/media/Nautique/IMG_1734.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s266.photobucket.com/user/turninggrey/media/Nautique/IMG_1735.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s266.photobucket.com/user/turninggrey/media/Nautique/IMG_1733.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  It turned out great. Thanks Rob. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 9:33pm
Somehow I have ended up with a couple of big tubes and a small container of the stuff,have no idea from where can't always find it when I'm looking for it though.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 9:58pm
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Seacamper (Tom) I wish we had a before pic, that one was a little rough, I guess all that time sitting on the bottom of the lake. Thanks so much for the business!! Rob |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: November-30-2016 at 10:39pm
Here we go. %3ca%20href=" rel="nofollow">  ]pic 1[/URL]%3ca%20href=" rel="nofollow">  ]pic 2[/URL]------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: December-01-2016 at 10:45am
Not sure what prop is on it Andy. As far as I know it's the factory one. My next thought would be a rebuild but again, I've never touched a Rochester.
Agreed on the 383 upgrade...LOL. I'm sure Rob would too. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: December-01-2016 at 11:09am
Tim, This is the http://www.boatfix.com/merc/bullet/99/99_07.PDF" rel="nofollow - service bulletin . As you can see it's from 2001. I know well after '88 but it does specifically say All Mercruiser 4,6 and 8 cylinder engines. It also does mention carbed and EFI in the content and does refer back to at least '96 model year engines. So what years does it really encompass? I have no idea but all Mercruiser 4,6 and 8 cyl. engines does cover a pretty broad spectrum. I guess the one thing that really jumped out at me was the air temps and ventilation in the engine compartment that is specifically mentioned in the service bulletin. This one detail ironically enough seemed to eliminate the problem once the engine cover was removed. Coincidence or just dumb luck? I have no idea right off hand. More info and testing is needed to verify the cause and effect at this point. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: December-01-2016 at 11:47pm
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Hi guys sorry for the absenteeism but I am busy running my business and don't spend a lot of time online. I'm surprised how this thread went from me "spaming" to you guys helping diagnose my boat. I appreciate all the input and theories, I haven't had it out since Eddie and I ran it without a issue I believe that the issue was/is the lack of fresh air into the engine box due to the fresh air hoses not working and getting good airflow into the box, causing vapor lock. Andy the prop I have on it is a OJ 13x13, it used to get 42 mph now its only 40 on GPS, I think I lost about 200 RPM (timing?) Yes the 383 would be an awesome upgrade but I don't have a spare 9k laying around. I will build a 383 at some point, probably a 400HP one. Thanks seacamper for the prop repair. Have a great weekend guys and thanks for the help with my boat. Rob (PROPGUY) |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: December-02-2016 at 10:18am
That's just good old CCfan initiation hazing, Looks like you're in, Welcome
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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: December-06-2016 at 2:29pm
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Rob I can help with a lot of info on that 88 DX...mine is a 90. One of the best things you can do is add the factory cavitation plate aka barefoot plate. It is the same one used on the DXII. Now here we get into some hull differences. An 88 should have an "original" DX hull ...the DXII hull has shortened lifting strakes see pitot mounting spot...the 88 hull should be like my 90 having full length strakes which has more similarity to the Sanger Outboard hull in design. Many DX's sit on DXII hulls...ive not seen a DXII on a DX deck though...the early 90's Sanger mixed and matched those lower hulls. So what does this all mean? It means your 88 with a plate and 400hp will have a wake as good or better than (in regard to barefoot wake slalom) a brand new 55,000 DXII. My 90 has a wake that hall of fame barefooter Willie Farrell calls it "too easy". ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: December-06-2016 at 2:36pm
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With 350hp I'm turning the original OJ 13X13 5100rpms which tows a big fat footer 47 mph and just at 49-50 no skier. I did run a 400 hp engine and it went more than 50 easily. But it blew up...do not order a motor from blueprint engines. That's another story. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: December-06-2016 at 5:35pm
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Sangers are the shizzy! Maybe some takeoff Vortec heads would perk yours up? ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: December-06-2016 at 6:02pm
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Thanks Andy but I dont need any imput on my Sanger, thats not why I came here. If I were looking for help I would goto the batefoot forum and reread your 17 page Budget Barefoot boat post again. My boat has a plate and 2 booms and just about everything else I need to foot on it. I weigh about 160lbs my wife is 110lbs and we are not competitive barefooters, so we dont need to go 46mph. We are mainly show skiers so 38-40 is just fine. If and when my motor goes kaput I will build a 383 around 400hp. I have acess to a 2015 DXII with a Raptor 440 if i desire to ski at 50+. Thanks again for all the input guys but your wasting your time posting all that here. I apreciate it but I am all good as far as my boat goes. I was offering my assistance and expertise on props to all of you all here thats all. I dont know how this changed to what it did. Again I appreciate all the input and that you guys wanna help with my boat but I would rater help you all. And PS its not only about making money, I like to help to.... and offer my services and a place to get new or used props for someone in need. I will discount all of it to CCF members. Rob |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: December-07-2016 at 2:23pm
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Well alrighty then...just uh an observation...the 383 has 429ft pounds torque at 3800 rpms so running at 40 is not running wide open holeshot is quick and firm and pulls hard throughout....it really makes the boat move effortlessly and driving it so much more fun. Almost no one skis wakes faster than 47...i like 45 forwards and just 40 or 41 backwards. Its just cool to be cruising along at 40 and romp on it and zip up to 50. Throttle it hard thru a turn its just way more fun. Hey I'm just trying to help since there is alot of confusion about Sanger models ...about the plate about the hulls. I spoke with some guys who run the dam to dam who dropped in a 6.0 in a DX that they race ---they were convinced it was nothing like a DXII wake...I had to explain he in fact had a DX riding on a DXII hull no plate...he was shocked since he had skied other plated DXII'S...I asked if he compared it to an unplated DXII? Nope never. Anyway a real DX is like an Outboard Sanger hull with an inboard engine and taller windshield. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: PROPGUY
Date Posted: December-07-2016 at 3:00pm
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Thans Andy, I appreciate all your input.... but as I stated I have followed/read your barefoot forum post numerous times, have been friends with scott p since the 80s been around barefooting (invluding Willie) since the 70s, so I am up to snuff on most stuff Sanger. I think I did pick your brain on your steering upgrade as everyone from scott, eric at sanger, you , your marina guy and teleflex all had different opiions.....lol I get the HP thing and I wojld love to upgrade, just dont have a extra 10k laying around. When I do it I will build the motor for probably less than half that. If you need a prop or any metal fabrication call me. Rob K |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-07-2016 at 3:03pm
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For the record, I've seen what are at least advertised as 91 model year DXs with both the full length strakes (flush with the transom) as well as the shorter ones. Appears to be a mid model year change. Outboard to inboard is apples to oranges even if the fiverglass is identical. It's a different wake due to weight distribution and propulsion method. Hell, just a prop change on an inboard causes a noticeable change in wake. |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: December-07-2016 at 3:38pm
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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: December-08-2016 at 1:43am
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Ive heard Scott say that the changes to the hull were to improve the barefoot wake...but at the time both the DX and DXII were AWSA approved waterski boats and the Outboard Sanger was the barefoot boat and its strakes run full length and that did not change so what the National sales manager says is suspect at best. Sanger gave me and my friends a DX to use in 1988 they said go foot with it...it had no plate...the wake was pretty good. I do not think anybody ever put a plate on a DX ....it's years later they put a plate on the DXII and found it had a wake judges could judge and skiers could ski. Never designed for barefooting it just happened to have a wake that worked. I've seen later than 91 sitting on the old DX hull possibly as late as 97. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: December-18-2016 at 10:44pm
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