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Topic: '73 Mustang
Posted By: Tonali_III
Subject: '73 Mustang
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 12:14am
Does anyone know the last model year for the Mustang SS?

I am in the middle of a deal for a '73 Mustang. This boat has sat for a number of years, but appears to be VERY complete.

The owner claims it has a Chrysler 318 in it.

Was the 318 "poly" used in '73? Billy?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan



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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:28am
1970 was the last year with the old hull,I have never heard of an SS in the newer hull.The only real way to tell for sure is the hull number MSS

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:45am
Thanks, Gary. This one has hull number M3214. So it's definitely not an SS. Do you know what any changes in hull design were for '71?

Do you know the last year for the "poly" 318?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:45am
Billy,    Only 4 SS's in the diaries, all 1968 including the real pretty blue one.
318's were quite common in '73's

Would this be the "Peterson Mustang" from Pete's summer neighborhood?


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:46am
Doc,

That it would. Do you have any information about the boat I might be interested in?

Tony

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:01am
Doc,

My concern is that this boat has the "Poly" 318 known as the M318 as opposed to the LM318. The LM (or Light M) was not a "Poly" engine.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:09am
No,   I was about to ask you the same.

I was sitting here last week, thinking my 302 would sound good in the Peterson '73

But, I would have to ask Pete to drag it to Chicago, then someone else to drag it to St.Louis or KC etc,,, etc...

I emailed for more photos, but didn't hear anything.

Anyway, Wife wants a Marauder, kids want a Martinique.



Looks like it ('73) has a lot of potential.
If you need a 302 for it let me know.



Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:13am
Doc,

I may have a deal closed for its acquisition. I PM'd Pete to see if he knew anything.

I live in STL so it's not a bad trip for me.

What's the story on your 302? Holman Moody? What year?

I am a Ford guy at heart and have some pretty vast knowledge of the old Ford Windsor small blocks.

Tony

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:21am
It's a 1975 OMC
pic link in Interesting CL finds, I think, one page back from the current page.



Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:24am
73 is way too late for a ploy

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1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:34am
Thanks, Joe. That's all I needed to know. Now a whole world of possibilities opens up for that little 'Stang.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:56am
There are only 3 in the diaries,one has a new owner so it is
double posted.Mine is really a 69 and Johnb parted another
69,here is his. Tim Benjamin may have located another and
there was one more that was posted here in the begining of
the site that recently turned up on ebay much worse for wear
since it was on here. If anyone out there has one please post
it to the diaries. Outside they look no different,inside they
all have console with twin stick control,but many have been
converted over to a single gunnel mounted control.



The one Tim had a line on



Ebay boat





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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 2:59am
Gary,

Shame. That two lever control adds a little more class to an already classy boat. When I was a kid, our 1960 Crestliner with its 1961 Johnson 75hp had a two lever control.

How does your Mustang ride?

Tony

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:05am
Originally posted by DrCC DrCC wrote:

It's a 1975 OMC
pic link in Interesting CL finds, I think, one page back from the current page.



Post has expired, Doc.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:08am
It loves smooth water Tony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS0yROXSHX8&feature=plcp" rel="nofollow - utube link

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:14am
Gary,

So I see. So I should invest in a lot of Bayer aspirin for rough water?

Is that a freon horn I see? Naughty, naughty releasing all those CFC's     

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:23am
Asprin helps my ears too! No it has the compressor under the deck.



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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:44am
Cool! Where can I get me one of...I mean two of those?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 3:49am
I can hardly wait to see what I am getting into. This Mustang is so different from my Southwind. The Southwind is a flippin' battleship compared to this little Mustang.

The Southwind is big, strong, heavy and smooth.

The Mustang is little, spunky, and seems to make the most of a little bit of horsepower.

I had a 350 powered Southwind 20. 260hp. I would go about 40 or 42. It was nice, but my 440 just muscles that monster out of the water.

Hmmmmm What would a 440 do in a Mustang...hmmm...

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 9:09am
Anyone have a good link to this Peterson boat?

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64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 12:45pm
It's in the 'For Sale' section. '73 Mustang in Wisconsin
or

%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/?yrstart=&yrend=&model=Mustang&state=WI&pricestart=0&priceend=100%2C000&sortBy=Date+Updated&Submit=Search

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 12:50pm
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6528&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - link

Tony I got my horns https://www.freeportmarine.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+WORDPR01+WEBFUNC+M37" rel="nofollow - here but I have seen them cheaper on ebay

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6528&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - link

I think I know where this boat is but never saw it in person. I connected with the owner via CCfan years ago, never met him in person and then lost track of him. I do remember him asking questions about doing a stringer job since they were pretty much gone.

Hey Tony,
You need some practice on your linking!! I always try to use the preview feature to check before posting.

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique

64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:11pm
[QUOTE=8122pbrainard]   I do remember him asking questions about doing a stringer job since they were pretty much gone.
QUOTE]

You think the pylon is an indicator of the stringers?

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:


You think the pylon is an indicator of the stringers?

For an older retiree, you eyes are still good - I missed the pylon!!     

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique

64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 5:00pm
      "posting has expired"

   fixed it.

       http://loz.craigslist.org/for/3526457233.html" rel="nofollow - 1975 302 OMC



Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:07pm
Pete,

Preview feature?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:10pm
Okay, so we have established that a missing pylon is a pretty good indicator of a stringer job needed.

So Pete,do you know the boat?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by DrCC DrCC wrote:

       "posting has expired"

   fixed it.

       http://loz.craigslist.org/for/3526457233.html" rel="nofollow - 1975 302 OMC



We might just do some talking. Nice engine.

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

Okay, so we have established that a missing pylon is a pretty good indicator of a stringer job needed.

The pylon is there but look at the angle it's at!!
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

So Pete,do you know the boat?

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I think I know where this boat is but never saw it in person. I connected with the owner via CCfan years ago, never met him in person and then lost track of him. I do remember him asking questions about doing a stringer job since they were pretty much gone.


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/diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -

54 Atom

/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique

64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

Pete,

Preview feature?

Look at the bottom of the page where you click on "post reply". Next to it is "preview" and then "clear form".

Who's confused??   

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique

64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:20pm
It's not missing Tony,just at a funny angle. When you go to post, you have the 3 choices Post Reply,Preview,and Clear Form. Before you post clik on Preview, another box opens and you can see how your posting will look. You can also open any links to make sure they work too. If you were closer I'd say get it as long as you know it will need work, and you'd be willing to do it.It also says best offer too. It would be a long drive to look at something that does not meet expectations.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:21pm
Pete,

One of these days, one of these days...Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

Okay, so we have established that a missing pylon is a pretty good indicator of a stringer job needed.

The pylon is there but look at the angle it's at!!
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

So Pete,do you know the boat?

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I think I know where this boat is but never saw it in person. I connected with the owner via CCfan years ago, never met him in person and then lost track of him. I do remember him asking questions about doing a stringer job since they were pretty much gone.


I see the angle. Kind of makes you go "Hmmm".
I take it the Mustang has 4 stringers in the floor?

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

It's not missing Tony,just at a funny angle. When you go to post, you have the 3 choices Post Reply,Preview,and Clear Form. Before you post clik on Preview, another box opens and you can see how your posting will look. You can also open any links to make sure they work too. If you were closer I'd say get it as long as you know it will need work, and you'd be willing to do it.It also says best offer too. It would be a long drive to look at something that does not meet expectations.


Thanks, Gary. I am picking it up for a "reasonable' price. (Translation: I did not pay the asking price.)

The worst that could happen is I have to part her out. But I got this stubborn streak. I like to make silk purses.

Being a '73, I take it this is a "foam" boat?

Tony

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Asprin helps my ears too! No it has the compressor under the deck.



Gary,

I could only find these at Freeport Marine. There is an eBay store that has them but the price difference is only a couple of bucks.

Tony

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-06-2013 at 7:31pm
Testing...1...2...3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiamm-Signaltone-Air-Horn-62330w-12V-Compressor-Kit-/230413010200?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item35a5af8518%20" rel="nofollow - eBay Signaltone Horn

Testing 1...2...3

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 1:49am
I suspect that I will need to restore the gauges. I have never taken apart any of these old Teleflex gauges for restoration.

Are there any tricks in cleaning and restoring the faces, bezels or internals?

Pete, I would think you may have some good experience with this.

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<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 2:42am
Thats a good deal on the horn Tony,I paid way more 3 years ago. The gauge
thing is tough,they are not made to be taken apart,the bezels being
crimped on.I had nothing to start with and lucked out finding these
on ebay.The lens were clean and the chrome rings polished up nice.
Teleflex's were/are on the low end and some gauge repair guy's don't
like to work on them. After 2 years of looking I finally found an hour
meter! You could check http://www.ccgauges.com/" rel="nofollow - here with
Dale to see what he thinks. Gauge repair when sent out is expensive
and slow.



http://www.ccgauges.com/" rel="nofollow - here

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 3:37am
WOW!!!

Those are gorgeous, Gary!

Now I will have to keep on the lookout for a nice set.

Steve mentioned a place that puts AutoMeter guts in Teleflex housings to make them work correctly.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 3:46am
Thanks for the link, Gary. I sent them an email and will let you know what they say.

Thanks again.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 9:40pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Thats a good deal on the horn Tony,I paid way more 3 years ago. The gauge
thing is tough,they are not made to be taken apart,the bezels being
crimped on.I had nothing to start with and lucked out finding these
on ebay.The lens were clean and the chrome rings polished up nice.
Teleflex's were/are on the low end and some gauge repair guy's don't
like to work on them. After 2 years of looking I finally found an hour
meter! You could check http://www.ccgauges.com/" rel="nofollow - here with
Dale to see what he thinks. Gauge repair when sent out is expensive
and slow.



http://www.ccgauges.com/" rel="nofollow - here


I heard back from Dale, Gary:

Hi Tony,

Please call me regarding your speedo. Dont let that Mustang get away. Thats one nice boat in any condition

Thanks

Dale Kocian
Kocian Instruments
(920) 336-1591


looking forward to picking her up in a couple weeks.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 10:02pm
Pete recommended him Tony,seems like a nice guy. He is storing several members gauges right now

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Pete recommended him Tony,seems like a nice guy. He is storing several members gauges right now

Tony,
Dale is a ACBS member and belongs to one of the chapters I do (Glacier Lakes). His business is fairly new but he's be around the insides of gauges for many years. I know many ACBS members who have used him and can say I have heard nothing but good things about him. He's a wood boat owner so he knows what it takes to do an original restoration.

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64 X55 Dunphy

Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Pete recommended him Tony,seems like a nice guy. He is storing several members gauges right now

Tony,
Dale is a ACBS member and belongs to one of the chapters I do (Glacier Lakes). His business is fairly new but he's be around the insides of gauges for many years. I know many ACBS members who have used him and can say I have heard nothing but good things about him. He's a wood boat owner so he knows what it takes to do an original restoration.


Sounds good to me, Pete.

That way I can keep it original.

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http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=553&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1974 Southwind 20
<a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6752" rel="nofollow">1972 Mustan


Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 11:45pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

You could check with
Dale to see what he thinks. Gauge repair when sent out is expensive
and slow.



Slow? he told me, my tach would be at least 3 or 4 weeks...

..... he aint never lied!

Tony, Dale is who has my tach...

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62 Classic..
73 Ski Nautique


Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 11:50pm
Hey, Gary,

you didnt get "my" tach back yet, did you?

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:49am
He told me the same too,well we don't need them yet anyway

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 2:28am
I talked to the owner on Friday and closed the deal for the Mustang. I am planning on picking her up the weekend of Jan 26-27.

It definitely has a LM318 in her, so I am checking with Art Cozier at CC Orlando to see if it is the original engine.

What kind of towing weight am I looking at?

Can this be towed with a Ford Ranger with a four banger? How about a Jeep Cherokee with a V6 (as opposed to their reliable 4.0L I-6)?

Or am I looking at towing this with my full sized F150 with my 300cid, L6? (strong as all get out and will pull stumps, hmmm wonder why it was never put to marine use?)

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 12:31pm
If no wet foam, youre looking at just over 2k lbs dry weight (1600 boat, 450 trailer). Even with wet foam and fluids, you're probably still only in the 2500 range.

Id be very surprised if that boat came with a 318. Does it have any of the original stickers on the exhaust manifolds or valve covers to indicate which model it was? The 200hp was a 273.

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 12:50pm
Tim,

The owner seems pretty emphatic. I will find out when I hear back from Art and when I pick her up in a couple of weeks.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 1:54pm
It may very well have a 318 in there now (it will be cast into the block) but that doesnt mean its original. 318's would have been cheaper and easier to find if the block was ever replaced. Art's records would be definitive, but if you have any pictures of the engine, those would tell a lot.

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 2:30pm
I agree, Tim. Unfortunately, I have no pics, yet. I am even thinking this could have some sort of Ford variant in it that the present owner is mistaking it for.

I will know more in a couple of weeks.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 9:53pm
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

It definitely has a LM318 in her

Tony,
How did you determine it has the 318? I'm with Tim on this and the 273 would be the common engine for a Mustang.

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-14-2013 at 10:46pm
I am going by what the owner John Elsen. He claims he bought it brand new from John, Sr. at Watercraft Sales.

I plan on checking for certain. It doesn't matter, really. It's going back together with what it had from Orlando after I get her home.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 9:08am
Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

I am going by what the owner John Elsen. He claims he bought it brand new from John, Sr. at Watercraft Sales.

I plan on checking for certain. It doesn't matter, really. It's going back together with what it had from Orlando after I get her home.

Tony,
You can't tell the two displacements apart from looking at the engine. You need to go to the engine tag and look at the engine model # and then, go to http://www.hurrikain.com/Chrysler-engine-id.htm" rel="nofollow - Hurrikain ID your engine .

I worked for John Sr. and trust me, unless he had the paper work in front of him, he would not be able to tell the difference ether. At least the PO didn't tell you the boat came from Cypress Gardens!!

Look at the engine tag!!!!!

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 9:52am
Not sure Chrysler put tags on the engine? Decals (if exhaust manifolds were reused and not painted over) would be the best clue if the block could have been replaced. Arts records if they're missing.

Chrysler DID cast the displacement into the block. It's down low on the port side iirc. No need to look anything up- it's easy to tell what's in the boat now. From a few feet away you can't tell the difference 273/318/340 though.



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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 10:28am
I don't know much about Chryslers, but did look at a pair of engines recently for a friend and one did still have a tag on it and both did have the displacement cast into the port side.



Why are you guys so sure a 318 wouldn't have been originally in that boat? A 273 may have been more common, but is it really unlikely Correct Craft would have put a 318 in a Mustang?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 11:38am
I just havent seen an original boat so equipped Bruce... which leads me to believe that CC simply didnt offer the 318 as an option in the 16' hulls. Maybe they thought they would overpower the boat? Not sure. Same reason they didnt offer 340's or 351w's... 302/305/307/273 seem to have been the offerings in that hull.

318's were common in the larger Barracuda, SN, etc.

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Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 3:43pm
This one may be of interest http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ebaymotors/1969-CORRECT-CRAFT-MUSTANG-SS-/321055459062;jsessionid=EFC5FAF7B06412C7BCF2655806233E57?item=321055459062&ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123&forcev4exp=true" rel="nofollow - 69 SS Mustang Ask him if the engine is original to the boat, its worded as if it is.

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Tonali_III Tonali_III wrote:

I am going by what the owner John Elsen. He claims he bought it brand new from John, Sr. at Watercraft Sales.

I plan on checking for certain. It doesn't matter, really. It's going back together with what it had from Orlando after I get her home.

Tony,
You can't tell the two displacements apart from looking at the engine. You need to go to the engine tag and look at the engine model # and then, go to http://www.hurrikain.com/Chrysler-engine-id.htm" rel="nofollow - Hurrikain ID your engine .

I worked for John Sr. and trust me, unless he had the paper work in front of him, he would not be able to tell the difference ether. At least the PO didn't tell you the boat came from Cypress Gardens!!

Look at the engine tag!!!!!


I knew you worked for John, Sr, so I know that you would know for certain.

I will definitely check when I get up there in 2 weeks. You going to be around there the weekend of the 26th, Pete?

I am thinking the engine may have been replaced, but I will check.

Thanks,

Tony

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-15-2013 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:

This one may be of interest http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ebaymotors/1969-CORRECT-CRAFT-MUSTANG-SS-/321055459062;jsessionid=EFC5FAF7B06412C7BCF2655806233E57?item=321055459062&ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123&forcev4exp=true" rel="nofollow - 69 SS Mustang Ask him if the engine is original to the boat, its worded as if it is.

Based on the details of the "restoration", combined with the fresh paint on the engine and non-original exhaust manifolds, I would certainly be taking everything that seller says with a grain of salt.

The casting number on his engine would be a clue as to whats in there now, but the only definitive evidence would be in CC's factory records.

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Posted By: Tonali_III
Date Posted: January-19-2013 at 6:40pm
This just in: according to Art Cozier at CC Orlando, my Mustang was originally equipped with a Chrysler 273cid (just as we all suspected). The boat was "completed" December 1971, making it a 1972 model. Hence the short VIN number (M3214) as opposed to the standard 12 or 17 digit variety started in 1973.

Also, there is a possibility that this engine may have been changed by an engine rebuilder sometime in the 80's.

The boat was purchased new and donated to the Moody Church of Chicago, Illinois for use at a youth camp in Wisconsin. The boat was originally purchased from Watercraft Sales in Three Lakes, Wisconsin from John Lamon, Sr (probably while Pete was working there).

The boat developed an engine problem (described as a "knock" in the engine) and was returned to the donor in about 1997 or 1998. The boat was placed in a garage at this time where it has been ever since.

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