Latest Project- Barn find SN
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Topic: Latest Project- Barn find SN
Posted By: Silver15
Subject: Latest Project- Barn find SN
Date Posted: August-26-2012 at 3:19am
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I hadn't posted any about this one, yet. So here goes. I bought this 1980 SN out of an old man's backyard here in the Orlando area. He parked the boat in '03 after his kids left home. I dragged it home, and it's been in my yard untouched for a few months now. Just the other day I got it running. Started right up and ran perfect with fresh gas, new plugs, and rebuilt carb. Today was the first day I had it on the lake and all went great. Sounds great, runs great. Stringers are solid. Everything in the boat is pretty much original including the interior which only has a few minor tears. Not bad for $1000, I suppose. The exterior painted graphics are scratched and faded, and the trailer has some surface rust. My plan was to buff out the gel, find a way to stencil new graphics, and repaint the trailer. But, here's where I'm at: The boat sitting in the backyard where we found it. The previous owner is the elder man. Very neat guy, he was sad to see it go.  Here's the engine; 350 Chevy (OMC, I think)  This is just a picture after we dragged it home. It looks a little better after a good wash, but not much.  More pictures to come as the project progresses. The boat is pretty close to original, so if I can find the time, I'm going to try to bring it all the way back! If anyone has ever done the graphics, or sprayed trailers or ANYTHING and wants to throw out some wisdom, it would be much appreciated.  ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
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Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: August-26-2012 at 11:42pm
| Awesome !! Love it keep posting pics of the progress !! |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 12:27am
Love the new project... Cool find !!! I've been dreaming of finding one of those for a few years now  Trailer or other metal stuff = Sherwin Willams Sher Kem I prefer to spray but you can brush or roll it too. I've done 3 trailers / boat engine and trans / + lots of 4wd stuff all with great results. Sherwin Willams Sher Kem. It is an Industrial Epoxy paint used for heavy equiptment. Stop by your local Sherwin Willams and look into opening an account. With 1- gallon of paint AND 1 gallon of Xzylene thinner (for clean up) I was still under the cost of 10 spray cans.  I used a inexpensive Harnbor Freight paint gun. ITEM 91009-1VGA [s]$19.99 [/s] $14.99        [/quote] ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 12:45am
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I like to sand blast if I can but on the trailer you could probably just scuff and shoot. Knock down as much rust as you can, you could even use a rust converter under coat if you like. On my last 10k equiptment trailer we just knocked off the big flake stuff with a wire brush and shot right over it. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 12:50am
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Michael, thanks, and WOW, you're a pro it seems. I like what you did with that engine/tranny. If I have LOTS of time, I may tackle that too, this one's looking a little rough. As for the trailer, I was thinking of what you said. Wire brush on an angle grinder to smooth it out a little. I will check on that paint; and I was going to roll it on with a sponge roller. Do you think I could get away with one can for the entire trailer? I would imagine so. And just keep your eye out! Deals are certainly out there. I come across them enough to fill up my yard, lol. Thanks so much for the info, this was exactly what I was looking for! ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 1:15am
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Engine Trans and Axles ~ That was my first time EVER shooting paint thru a gun. I did thin it out 10% on the engine and trans. Yes 1 can should = 2-4 trailers depending on how thick you apply. Sherwin Williams counter guys are great help with application advice (just get one that has been around a while). The SW guy I deal with is retired and restores old tractors. I snagged a CC 25 hp J-16 Carolina Skiff Friday on a deal hoping to turn it into a project Nautique by next summer. PS: 3 yrs later and engine still looks new and shiny. Intake painted with a rattle can is showing 3 yrs age. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: 80SN Barnfind
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 4:20pm
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Great find! The story sounds familiar to mine. I brushed on Rustoleum "hammered finish" and am very satisfied with the results. Not sure they have your color though.  ------------- Knowledge comes by taking things apart: analysis. But wisdom comes by putting things together. |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 4:25pm
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Is that a Buick GN in the garage? ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: Nauti87
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 5:52pm
Very cool, I wish I had taken pics of mine when I drug it home!,, Also wish it had a chevy motor like yours! 
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Posted By: dconner08
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 6:27pm
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Nice find, glad to see your saving it. ------------- 79 ski tique- first boat and its a learning process |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 8:39pm
Yes ~ wifey's dad's (1 of 3) 1 show n go / 1 driver / 1 in process... Trying to hook him into the Nautiques too. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Swatkinz wrote:Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 10:21pm
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Noel, I don't think you could have anymore of an ironic user name! haha. Michael, those carolina skiffs are solid little boats and seem to hold their value pretty well similar to Whalers, Makos, Aquasports, etc. And thanks all for the paint info. My next, and most immediate problem, I suppose, is the graphics. How in the world do I go about finding the proper stencils and paint to redo them? Thanks in advanced, ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-27-2012 at 10:39pm
Jake, Several of our members have done the same graphics and one of them is Alan! The straight lines can be done by hand with 3M fine line tape. The lettering can be done a couple ways but the easy way is to trace the existing and then take it to a vinyl sign shop. They will scan the tracing into the computer, clean it up and then cut the paint stencil. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: August-29-2012 at 11:30pm
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Pete, I read some old threads and one guy actually said he had the files to take to a sign shop to have the stencils generated. He seems to be an inactive member anymore. Here's another question: what paint do I use for the graphics? I was thinking an epoxy type paint? I just want it to look uniform with the rest of the boat. Dad wanted to put the boat in today and go wakeboarding and it wouldn't run properly. I took a peak down the carb, and the primary jets (mostly the starboard one) were just dripping gas down into the manifolds. So I guess the carb needs to be gone through again. Not surprised. It was really rough. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: August-29-2012 at 11:36pm
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Also, I was just going to roll on the graphics with a high quality sponge roller same as the trailer... is that a stupid idea? I feel like spray guns just waste a lot of paint especially if the target area is so small. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-30-2012 at 8:57am
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Jake, To my knowledge, all the painted graphics were done with Rustoleum at the factory and brushed on. It sticks! Some here have gone with some automotive paints and sprayed. If you are worried about too wide of a spray pattern, the better guns can be dialed back quite a lot or you could go with a air brush. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: NAUTIQUEjunky
Date Posted: August-31-2012 at 5:18pm
Anyone know where I can find the pcm valve cover decal in this pic?? Skidim says there no longer available .. not trying to hijack post btw.. ------------- 1977 MasterCraft Stars&Stripes 1994 Ski Nautique 2000 Super Air Nautique 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 1999 Sport Nautique gt40 current |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-01-2012 at 1:34am
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Marty Mabe possibly can help ! Marty time to make another obsolete decal !! |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-01-2012 at 9:57pm
Here's some progress. Spent most of today buffing out the topside of the boat. I am pretty pleased with the turnout. I got that cool, wet shine I was hoping for. There's some staining from years of sitting that I just can't get out, which makes me a little angry, but it is what it is. Also, ignore the dirty mess from where the horns were located, haven't cleaned that up yet.      I'll spend some time, maybe Monday, finishing the sides. Then I get to start working on the graphics paint and interior finishing. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-01-2012 at 9:58pm
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Also, I haven't de-oxydized the dash around the gauge cluster yet. That's why that still looks rough. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 12:13am
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Looking good Jake! Guess you got busy on it just after I left. Nice progress. Did you do it by hand or with a machine? ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 1:04am
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There is a graphics file for an 81 in the reference section of this website. I think they are the same as an 80. Not positive. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 1:33am
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Thanks, BKH!! I think they are actually the exact same. I guess if I take those files to a sign shop, they will be able to make the templates? And yes, Bret, I had actually gone to BPS to buy the compound and wax when you came over. It looks quite a bit different than when you saw it last! ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 1:52am
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The sign shop can make a gerber mask (I think its called) so you can paint them, or can make that graphic in vinyl and you can stick them on. Alan, 81 Nautique, made the stencile for his 81 about 7 years ago. If you do a search, he chronicled the entire rebuild, including paint. His is considered one of the best looking rebuilds on CCFan for a boat of that era. A guy in Illinois just bought the boat and some photos were posted in the last week. There was also another guy from Tennesee that repainted the graphics in Vol Orange and another from Florida that painted his lime green. Not original, but those graphics really hold up well to color changes. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 1:56am
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I sort of like the vinyl idea. That would eliminate me possibly screwing up the paint. And yes, I've seen that boat! It looks very, very good. If I could achieve that kind of turnout, I'm all for it. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: September-02-2012 at 7:26am
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Looking good!!! Can't wait to see it all back together on the water in the sun. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-04-2012 at 11:19pm
Thanks, I really wanted to get to the sides over the long weekend but had no time. AP classes are kicking my butt, so it may be a few days before I get a chance to even touch it again.  ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-05-2012 at 3:51pm
| Jake, Looking great !! |
Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: September-05-2012 at 9:28pm
| Some time spent wet-sanding will get those stains out. Then re-polish, wax, etc...some good intel on here on what grit to start and end with. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-08-2012 at 4:02pm
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Okay, guys. I tried to hit the sides with the buffer/starbright compound like I did the top. The sides are way worse than the top apparently. I can't get much shine. It's like a chalk board. Also, the buffer picks up the blue graphics and smears them all over the place, so I have to mask it all off. Needless to say, I think I need to go the wetsanding route. Can anybody tell me the proper method? I tried to search the forums, but the search feature NEVER works for me. Thanks in advanced. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: cphase
Date Posted: September-08-2012 at 4:12pm
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Try google: ccf+wet sanding ------------- Thanks, Jeff http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6549" rel="nofollow - 82 SN http://www.archlinux.org" rel="nofollow - Arch Linux |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: September-08-2012 at 4:26pm
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I did a little google searching and found this video which really seems to hit all of my questions. Does http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Srm9h7vyk&feature=relmfu" rel="nofollow - this seem like a pretty good representation of what needs to happen? I just get a little nervous taking sandpaper to gelcoat, if you know what I mean. lol. Thanks. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: 80SN Barnfind
Date Posted: November-03-2012 at 10:24pm
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Jake, how did you make out this summer? Any upddates on your project? ------------- Knowledge comes by taking things apart: analysis. But wisdom comes by putting things together. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: November-04-2012 at 12:15am
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Barnfind, Unfortunately, my dad decided that he wanted to sell it. I have no control over what he decides to do(This was his boat). A little disappointing I must admit. I have made considerable progress on other boat projects, though. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |