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winniskier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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My neighbor bought this 2000 Ski Nautique and discovered that it lists to starboard both at rest with nobody in it and at speed with two equal weight guys driving and spotting. His boat does not have ballast tanks. The only accessories that may be relevant are the heater in the bow on the starboard side. The boat has a hot water shower system. I am not sure if any of its components are near the heater.
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1102 |
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It could have a structural failure that has allowed water into the cavities under the floor that should be sealed. If there is foam in those cavities it will get water logged and add weight. Another possibility is that a previous owner has hidden some ballast. A friend of mine bought a Tige that the previous owner had hidden lead bars around the boat for ballast.
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92 SN - Owned since 93
99 Pro Air 89 SN - Went to live on a lake in Texas 75 Donzi 16 - Sold in 93 |
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2009 |
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Yea there is a issue with that one. however feel under the driver seat in the cavity and make sure there are no weight plates hidden there. 2 25 pound barbell weights will fit under the driver seat. also check behind the kick panel and make sure no one stacked something there. many of those boats as great a skiing boat as they were needed weight on the starboard side to run level at slalom speeds. normally we would use a 50-75 pound weight that was easily moved around. |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 1989 ProStar.. |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14015 |
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My 95's build sheet notes that on it's water test it listed 1/2". Don't remember which way though.
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winniskier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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I thought this boat would have closed cell foam that would not get waterlogged. If I am right, would the water have little room under the floor? Are there any weep hole and if not, could they be drilled to drain the water?
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Jim
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MourningWood ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: June-13-2014 Location: NorCal Status: Offline Points: 828 |
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I think if you take off the swim platform brackets, water will leak out (if it's in there).
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1994 Ski Nautique "Riot"
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun" 'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!" |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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I'd probably call whoever the boat was bought from and see what they can tell him.
No test ride when he bought the boat?
It must ride with a pretty good list with only the driver in it.(Lone Ranger,.... no Tonto ![]() |
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winniskier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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The prior owner was not aware of the issue. He owned the boat for 2 years and could not locate the stern light under the gunwale. Someone suggested there were weep holes to drain under the floor. If there aren't any, is it possible to add them?
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winniskier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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It's almost certain their is water under the floor on the starboard side. Are there any pictures of the stringers etc for a boat of this year? There are a gazillion pictures of boats with wood stringers.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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May not be very helpful but there's a cutaway drawing of the boat/stringer/foam arrangement in the link.
Look at page 32 of 36 |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14015 |
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Years ago KRoundy cut up a boat,don't remember the year. This is the only picture I saved from it.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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He had a 93 and then he cut up another 93.
Here's a link to one of his 93 threads (the boat he was saving) with some info and more pictures I guess you could say 93 and 00 are at least similar
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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And in this link you'll find kroundy's boat blog with all kinds of pictures of all kinds of things.
Like Gary's picture........Just chock full of foam with the fiberglass floor over it. ![]() You'll see that same picture in the slide show of the hull being cut up
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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if you're sure there's water and wet foam on that side and you want to get rid of it without being too intrusive, click on the link below to a thread by Gotta Ski
Some strategically drilled holes, a pressure washer and a shop vac and you're in business maybe. Lke he said there are YouTube videos about this. Never having done this, I thought I'd just throw it out there for you to look at/think about
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winniskier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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This boat may be for sale now. Let me know if you have interest.
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Jim
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MourningWood ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: June-13-2014 Location: NorCal Status: Offline Points: 828 |
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Hopefully at a lopsided price....
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1994 Ski Nautique "Riot"
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun" 'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!" |
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bwinn ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July-13-2009 Location: ct Status: Offline Points: 379 |
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You be the judge.
https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/gilford-2000-ski-nautique/7602447758.html |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10100 |
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clicked on the ad, thought it was gone but I guess it was operator error, it's still there.
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4087 |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4087 |
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Agree that's a really good price for a 2000 Ski, even if you need to figure out the list. Pretty amazing slalom wake for 11k. I look at used boats just for the fun of it and seems like everything worthwhile is 20k plus. |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Jonny Quest ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 2686 |
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Dang good price…
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2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow (current)
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow (sold) Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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wayoutthere ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 359 |
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That's tempting. Way cheaper and faster than a full project.
I would pull the carpet. After some strategic exploratory surgery; 1. cut out the floor in sections i.e. 6 inches wide X 18-24 inches long real nice and save the cutouts. 2.Remove the foam 3. Not put foam back in. 4. Hot glue tongue depressors to the floor cutouts so they hungover a few inches and set them back in. 5. Tab on some glass, after it dries pull the tongue depressors and finish glassing it over. 5a. Especially glass around the perimeter of the floor to the hull sides, my bet since it's foam filled and glassed over, the guys at the factory just kinda got a little bit of mat up the hullsides, just enough to get it past warranty before it pops loose here and there letting any water that gets on the floor leak into the cavity. 6. Throw in some new carpet and be done with it, go skiing baby ! |
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Jonny Quest ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 2686 |
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WOT. It’s calling your name. Buy it already.
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2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow (current)
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow (sold) Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14015 |
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You know what would be way easier than going through all that work for potentially very little gain? Have the build sheet pulled at the factory and get it's water test results. What if you did all that and still had a list?
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wayoutthere ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 359 |
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Johnny, I couldn't do the kind of work to do it justice. Too new and too nice
Gary, your probably right and that would be a smart play. Was there ever any word from the factory about why some list or is there a theory out there. Maybe next spring another boat will come my way. Cleaning out the shed today found the last remnants of the 79 and thought i'd breeze thru and say hi. Really liked that boat. Someone will pick it up and it'll be a good boat for them |
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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3384 |
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Buy it, place about 125 pounds of ballast on the passenger side to level it and use it for the next 10 years or so.
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7925 |
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Gret idea. Heck of a boat for the price.
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2009 |
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We carry 75 pounds under the passenger seat of a 2017 -200 CB, only take it out if there are two big persons (200 plus} in the passenger seating. or it goes in the back for tricks. the last year or so of the slant back as well as the first couple years of the bubble butt. many of our promo as well as factory team boats needed 40 pounds no matter what, stuffed in the cavity under the drivers seat. Today, go to an event, competition (whatever they want to call it theses day's). one will find lead ballast bags as well as boats with water tanks for level as well as electronic wake enhancing that can be tailored to change the wake configuration at the touch of a button. the boat up for sale is a great deal and would make a perfect candidate for a 6.0 re-power as well as ZO update and overall refresh..
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 1989 ProStar.. |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3289 |
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Ive left the floor in place and extracted all the foam out with just some (11) 5" hole saws, then reglassed the holes, leveled, added some more ply everywhere. will never get soggy again.
putting foam back is one's user discretion
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