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    Posted: August-15-2021 at 11:12am
The lovely Mrs. Quest has decided that she wants a 5th wheel RV / Trailer.  As such, my 2018 4Runner must be replaced with a diesel-drinking, torque-spewing monster.  We looked around locally, but there are NO trucks on dealership lots anywhere around here, so I had to place a "factory order".  The projected delivery date is 3-4 months.  Dang.  This is what I have ordered:

- Ford F350 (4-door crew cab)
- 6.7 Powerstroke diesel with 10 speed tranny
- 4WD
- 8 foot bed
- Mrs. Quest luxury items and accoutrements (aka the "Princess Package")

With 475 HP and 1,000 pound-feet of torque, do y'all think it will tow the Ski Nautique?  I mean it weighs all of 3,600 pounds with boat and trailer…

What a woman.  Horrible taste in men, but damn!  What a woman!

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That should tow a 5th wheel a trailer and the SN at the same time.
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 I know my custom bodied F150 pulled my Super Sport your SN has to be lighter


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Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

my 2018 4Runner must be replaced with a diesel-drinking, torque spewing monster. 
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Did you go single rear wheel or duel rear wheel? XLT, Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum,Tremor package, Fx4, Ford has so many option packages it is crazy.
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Originally posted by JD ski JD ski wrote:

Did you go single rear wheel or duel rear wheel? XLT, Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum,Tremor package, Fx4, Ford has so many option packages it is crazy.

Don’t need DRW in the back, so I went with singles.  Lariat package. Leather seats. 5th wheel prep. Off road and 4WD package.  Damn, it's a Loooong wheelbase.  Comes with its own ZIP code.  

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I know, I was looking to pick up a F350 6.7 SRW 6.5 ft bed Lariat Tremor before the truck shortage and price gouging. I also do not have a wife as encouraging as you. The long bed comes with the large tank so you may not need an extra tank such as a Transfer Flow unit made in Chico California. When I was looking the Transfer Flow unit would pay for it's self, I think it was around 100,000 miles by just not purchasing fuel in California with our $0.50 cent a gallon tax. I travel out of state often enough I would rarely need to buy fuel in California, makes it worth it. Just something to think about.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KENO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-15-2021 at 5:30pm
Is it "Pretty in Red" ?

The princess package sounds kinda Pink Wink
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

 I know my custom bodied F150 pulled my Super Sport your SN has to be lighter



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That package come with 30 year financing?
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Originally posted by Smithfamily Smithfamily wrote:

That package come with 30 year financing?
 
 At the current pricing it would have to for me to get a new one or used one for that matter. That’s why I’m still nursing my ‘06 Lariat Power Stroke along for at least another year or more.

  The motor is as strong as day one but living in the rust belt is taking its toll Angry damn that salt.
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Originally posted by Smithfamily Smithfamily wrote:

That package come with 30 year financing?
 
 At the current pricing it would have to for me to get a new one or used one for that matter. That’s why I’m still nursing my ‘06 Lariat Power Stroke along for at least another year or more.

  The motor is as strong as day one but living in the rust belt is taking its toll Angry damn that salt.


Mine is WAY newer than yours. Big smile

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JQ, congrats!  That truck is so long parallel parking becomes something you used to think about doing.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

JQ, congrats!  That truck is so long parallel parking becomes something you used to think about doing.

I looked up the turning radius in the spec sheet and it said “1 time-zone”

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You're going to love it!  

I pull my boat with a 3 seater jetski in the bed.  Rumbling up highway grades at 1750 RPM/70 mph at peak torque. At least in my 2015 6.6L Duramax.

Make sure you get all the camera options. They're expensive to add later

Don't forget the extended warranty!  It is a Ford after all LOL
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That is a pretty rig, can’t imagine how long it takes to load all that.
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Beautiful rig Don.  Love the blue color.  

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Thanks Rob.  It does clean up nice for vacation!

I don't know how big your TT is going to be, but I read that a lot of the FT RVers like the DRW for stability

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No question dually's add some stability for towing, but ......

Rob's new pickup will be around 7,500 lbs. I think.  It will be plenty stable for nearly any TT he can put behind it.  Good tires, aired up to max inflation (75-80 psi) and that Powerstroke will pull it and stay planted with no issues.

Dually's are marginally useful IMO, and I've owned 2.  Snow traction is not as good, parking sucks.  I'd have to be really towing heavy to consider a dually as a daily driver.
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Round here, we see a lot of duallys for heavy live stock, expensive horses
Probably just adds a safety feature Incase of a blowout.
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Remember back in the good old days when you'd slap on a hitch and a trans cooler on your everyday car and go "camping"? Mileage was not much different than my Avalanche. 472 in '71 or 500 in '76 cubic inches of American made muscle. The 76 eventually went all the way to Alaska and back. Love that blue Don!


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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Round here, we see a lot of duallys for heavy live stock, expensive horses
Probably just adds a safety feature Incase of a blowout.


Well one thing a dually has going for it, if you are pulling a horse trailer or other heavy trailer over grass and dirt, the dual tire flotation will make it much less likely to get stuck in soft ground.

Love the old hunk of steel and cubic inches approach to American luxury cars of that era!
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I had a customer that hauled heavy loads in his pick up bed.  He had Ford F350 long beds.  He was delivering engines so the load in the bed might be 2,500  pounds or more.  When he was buying single rear wheel trucks the rear tires lasted about 25,000 max, he was advised to switch to dually rear wheels and the same size Ford F350 now got more than 60,000 rear tire life and the load was much more stable to drive.  The width and extra sidewalls help balance and contain the loads.  Extra tire life was a bonus.  If you don't haul heavy loads probably will never need the extra wheels.
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This is what the "build" looks like...courtesy of the Ford website.

No DRW -- SRW only.  The DRW would be a very tight fit in my garage door.  As such, I had to get the power folding mirrors so that they can fold flat without some bonehead (me) tearing them off...

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VERY NICE TRUCK JQ!  those 6.7l diesels are incredible engines you will love it.
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my buddy bought one, platinum option, his wife has a very nice BMW, every time she goes to see the kids, a 240 mile trip she looks for reasons to take his truck now.  She loves it on the road, they go from Las Vegas to Newport Beach to visit kids and the truck rolls along any speed she wants and gets nearly 20 MPG not towing.
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Awesome truck!!!  The power is beyond belief, my friend has a '20, combined with a remarkably good ride and fairly quiet depending on what you run for tires.

The power gains in these diesels is the story.  My '98 6.5 had 185 HP and 380 lb.-ft. torque, and it towed very well.  My '07 6.6 Duramax is 360 HP, 650 lb.-ft. and seems to be endlessly powerful.  The numbers on the new trucks are, at this point, almost overkill.  I know GM and Ford were both trying to be the first to get torque over 1000.
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No doubt the newer diesels are the class in towing, my first diesel was a 1984 Suburban 3/4 Ton 4x4 with the 6.2L.   Got good MPG at that time but it had no power to speak of, I think it was 140 HP and 260 ft pounds of torque.  We did see over 20 MPG on long trips and it was great when not towing but towing I remember going up hills on the highway in 1st gear at 25 MPH and could not go any faster.  I bought a turbo to install to fix that issue and danged if the truck was not wrecked, we were rear ended hard.  Never got to enjoy the turbo.
My buddy owns a cattle ranch, located at 6,000 ft in Idaho, his Ford has so much power he says he has to slow down for turns going up the big passes near his ranch while towing 20,000 pounds.   His is 5 years old and I know they have more power now.  Car and Driver did a Test on the new Diesel full size trucks at the drag strip.   These full size 8,000 pound rigs were doing the 1/4 mile faster than a 1967 GTO with a 4 speed and 4.11 gears.   Who would have thought this would ever happen.  Amazing rigs.
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I’m still trying to get my head around 475 HP and 1,050 pound-feet of torque…2,600 and 1,600 RPMs respectively. 

I realize it’s an apples-to-oranges comparison, but the Cummins M-11 engine (Class 8 trucks) is 400HP and 1,450 pound-feet of torque…pulling 80,000 GVW.

Damn.  

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