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63 Skier 
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 Posted: December-21-2021 at 2:27pm |
JD, I used to spend some time on Diesel Place and remember that study well. I also had a diesel converted to run on UCO and lubricity was a major subject there, currently I run a 2007 LBZ Duramax. I add 16 oz. of 2 stroke oil and 8 oz. of power service to every fillup. My LBZ thankfully has a CP3 pump but I still like adding the oil for lubricity. I did the same on my several 6.5 diesels. If I owned a new diesel I'd maybe just add something like optilube that you recommend or nothing at all. The CP4 injection pump failure was both Ford and GM. At work we had a 2014 Duramax and when the CP4 came apart it caused a lot of damage, we had estimates of $10,000 to get it back on the road, chose to dump it instead in a cheap sale. |
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desertskier
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 2:12pm |
I noticed our local HD was limiting the number of DEF containers to two per customer. Figured something was up.
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JD ski
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 1:42pm |
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I have done a lot of research on the diesel fuel and the above study is the best information I have found. It is an older study but still to the point. There is one newer product on the market called Hot Shot with something 4 added that has better luberosity. If you have not read about Ford not covering the CP4 pump failures under warranty you need to do some research. But what it boils down to is the injector pump coming apart due to lack of lube in the fuel and or fuel filters and water separators being plugged and then starving the injector pump. Ford makes clams of one or the other but does not cover the damage. Opti-Lube is the brand I chose to run in my diesel powered vehicles.They have a variety of products for different weather and conditions and it is available through Wall Mart on line. They also offer different types of containers for measuring to meet the needs of their clients.
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JD ski, slicing, dicing, and shredding since 1981
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Gary S
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 12:59pm |
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Although this article is about Australia- Better stock up- our Menards is already out of it as of last weekend. In the past they had pallets of it
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63 Skier
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 12:45pm |
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Yup, happens more than you'd expect. DEF is nasty stuff. On our commercial trucks we used to buy it in 55 gallon drums, but over time it would develop stringy black stuff that would clog up the tank and pump and we spent a lot on fixing emissions related problems. So we went back to buying DEF in plastic containers, I think they are 2 1/2 gallons each, to make sure we are always adding clean fresh DEF. The emissions stuff is 70% of the maintenance on the trucks.
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Gary S
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 12:43pm |
Getting tough to even get them out to begin with- http://www.startribune.com/ford-halts-deliveries-of-mustang-mach-e-upsetting-buyers-counting-on-2020-tax-break/600128953/
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 12:40pm |
NOW you tell me…better get the fluid extractor out. All joking aside, the Ford dealer told me about several incidents where new-to-diesel owners have put DEF into the diesel fuel tank. The “fix” for that little mistake can be over $15,000 as the DEF is corrosive. Ouch. JQ
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63 Skier
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 12:23pm |
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Just a few key things to remember: Don't put DEF in the coolant overflow tank. Don't put washer fluid in the DEF tank. Don't put gasoline in the fuel tank.
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 11:56am |
Roger that. For a few shekels more, I have a 100,000 mile / 5 year B-T-B warranty that covers everything. I hope I don’t need it. JQ
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 11:36am |
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Now we move on to Phase II, keeping it OUT of the dealership…
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63 Skier
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 11:03am |
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Wow, that thing is awesome! Agree, the power is insane, spinning tires with ease on a 7,500 lb. vehicle is some serious torque.
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desertskier
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 10:49am |
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Sweet looking beast!
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 10:19am |
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Kris Kringle didn't let me down...IT'S HERE
Apologies for the sucky picture, but the light was fading. The color is called "Anti-Matter" blue. It should be called "Black-Unless-Direct-Sunlight-At-Noon".
Holy horsepower, Batman, this thing is stupid-fast. 1,050 pound-feet of torque may just land my fanny in traffic court. Christmas bonus: even Mrs. Quest approves. The dates on the Ford vehicle tracking website moved around a bit, but this is what Blue Oval showed on delivery day: 08/20/2021 - Order Confirmed 11/24/2021 - In Production 12/01/2021 - Built 12/16/2021 - Delivery to Dealer Happy Holidays, y'all. JQ  |
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 10:16am |
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I've been looking at new 1 ton duallys lately for the same reason as JQ. Looks like some RAM's are making it to the dealers but haven't seen any Fords yet. Maybe Ford is only doing special orders. Guess I'll find out when I'm ready to pull the trigger. Let us know when it shows up. Hopefully cars and trucks start showing up soon. The used market is ridiculous.
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Posted: December-21-2021 at 6:03am |
Jonny, It's almost here............Christmas that is.
How about the truck, is it almost here or still "IN Production" ? Or maybe it's here already  |
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63 Skier
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Posted: November-17-2021 at 12:09pm |
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What they aren't telling you is it will have crank windows and an AM radio, and the backup camera is called a mirror.
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: November-17-2021 at 11:12am |
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Blue Oval is full of surprises.
Ford just sent me a notice that the truck is "In Production". I also got the window sticker. I'm more than just a little surprised that this custom order has come together so quickly. With the micro-chip shortages, supply chain shortages, labor shortages, etc., I was fully expecting a January or February 2022 delivery. Damn, I might see this bad-boy before Christmas. I hope I don't stretch the Nautique trailer tongue with all those ponies and torque! JQ
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Posted: November-06-2021 at 11:55am |
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Will make a nice Christmas present! My buddy has the Platinum version of your truck, a couple years old. Since he bought that truck his wife is always borrowing it rather than drive her BMW. He says she loves driving it. Better hold on to your keys!
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: November-06-2021 at 9:35am |
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According to Blue Oval scheduling, the truck will be built the last week of November. That’s sooner than I was expecting. Maybe see a delivery date around Christmas/New Years.
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Posted: September-14-2021 at 6:06pm |
I also heard that along with COVID the plant had a large fire that set them back. I heard Camaro stopped production due to lack of front splitters and spoilers for the cars. F-150's are parked at Kentucky Speedway waiting on Chips for the computers. I sell machinery and over the last 10 years all of the components have been offshored. Our business has been great, but we can't ship anything. Our Backlogs are crazy high, but shipments are slow. We are sitting on our hands waiting for the containers to arrive. We also have to bid on containers to get one. The containers ship to the US but are not going back overseas because their economy has not recovered as fast as the US economy. We have changed ports of entry several times and are constantly changing logistic companies to try to get the components to the US plant at a faster pace. On another note, my in laws are full time RV ers for the last 12 years. He moved to a dully because when pulling the camper and getting passed by tractor trailers would make the Fifth Wheel dance slightly and it caused an uneasy feeling. That went away with the more stable dully.
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Posted: September-10-2021 at 4:13pm |
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I remember those days.
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Posted: September-05-2021 at 5:20pm |
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You guys are scaring me! In 1970's I towed a double-deck trailer with two Ski Nautiques and their respective trailers on it from Orlando FL to a ski site about 100 miles south of Mexico City with a Dodge MaxiVan with a 360 engine and no add-on tow equipment other than the trailer hitch. The only problem I had was the 85 octane (they claimed) Mexican gasoline caused the 360 to rattle a lot, so I stopped and backed off the timing a bit. I figured the double decker weighed about 3000 and each SN with trailer 3000 each.
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63 Skier
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Posted: September-05-2021 at 10:28am |
Daryn, I guess I agree with Don. Not that we can't discuss whatever any of us wants to discuss, but a guy posts a thread about his new truck he has on order, doesn't need to turn into a political conversation. Now if we start talking Ford vs. GM vs. RAM, that might really get ugly!
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Posted: September-04-2021 at 10:05pm |
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Yes alfadon your right.
But politics is starting to effect our lives |
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Posted: September-04-2021 at 12:27pm |
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We need to stay away from political discussions.
It turns out that unless you’re BofA You’re going to have to pay the money back |
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Posted: September-04-2021 at 10:55am |
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These supply chain problems are going to get more common going forward I think. The insulation shortage after the Texas ice storms has never recovered, now this chip shortage seems like it's going to be here for a while, and like MrMcD said the ripple effect is huge as those auto plants are shut down. I usually browse around at boats but haven't been doing so lately, I need to take a look at used boat pricing out of curiosity.
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Posted: September-04-2021 at 10:41am |
That’s AOC’s platform, she’ll tell you that’s the way it should be.
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Posted: September-04-2021 at 5:09am |
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And there’s 3 trillion in free money out there. For some reason people feel rich not working
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Posted: September-03-2021 at 11:32pm |
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I spoke with friends at the old Federal Mogul Company, now known as DRIV, they are in the same boat as Ford and all the other manufacturers. The Chip shortage has shut down production at all the manufacturers, Federal Mogul’s sales are way off because they supply parts to all the OE companies and the OE companies are not producing. It will have a large ripple effect if the Chip companies don’t come back on line. The story is the main producer of chips got hit hard at the plant by COVID and shut down.
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: September-03-2021 at 9:32pm |
I’d be lying if I said that thought hadn’t crossed my mind… “News Update” Due to the semiconductor chip shortage, Ford has cancelled the 2022 model year. 2023 vehicles will be available for pre-orders at the mid-term elections. JQ
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