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They screw into the block and hold. I used to winterize my neighbor's 377 Mercruiser. These plugs, which were everywhere, were the one thing that impressed me with it the most.
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For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.
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Those are on my 95. The trouble I find with those Bruce is that the oring falls off of them real easy at the most inopportune time and into the most inaccessible place.
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.


"Propylene Glycol based. Glycol based antifreeze is safe on your lawn, septic tank, and storm sewers. As it is a mineral oil it also will lubricate the seals as opposed to dry them out. But the most amusing fact about it is that there is nothing that suggests it is harmful to ingest. I wanted to back this fact up so I checked the MSDS and the only reference to health effects is it may cause diarrhea if ingested in large quantities. Many studies on rodents have shown no long term effect on them as well."


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.


"Propylene Glycol based. Glycol based antifreeze is safe on your lawn, septic tank, and storm sewers. As it is a mineral oil it also will lubricate the seals as opposed to dry them out. But the most amusing fact about it is that there is nothing that suggests it is harmful to ingest. I wanted to back this fact up so I checked the MSDS and the only reference to health effects is it may cause diarrhea if ingested in large quantities. Many studies on rodents have shown no long term effect on them as well."


They say it's non toxic, but it kills my grass. Dump a gallon on your grass and see what happens.
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Like either of you two could find any grass when it's 100 below out....
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It's been a mild, warm winter. Grass will be sprouting in a few weeks...
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Like either of you two could find any grass when it's 100 below out....

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

It's been a mild, warm winter. Grass will be sprouting in a few weeks...

Bruce,
Not here! I had -23 on the lezmobile thermometer on the way to work this morning. And, we still have about 18" of snow on the flat.

BTW, I don't have any grass to test the AF on come spring. I'll go to a neighbors and dump a gal to see what happens!


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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

These seem a lot simpler if you don't like using a wrench on the hex plug.. Harnden Marine make them out of stainless if you don't like plastic.

https://www.amazon.com/Mercruiser-Replacement-Drain-Plug-Kit/dp/B01LFS3KAC/ref=asc_df_B01LFS3KAC/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=&hvpos=&hvnetw=o&hvrand=&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583932699466217&psc=1


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Those don’t look like pipe threads


That's because they're not

For something like the block drain that's usually a 1/4 NPT they use an adapter to go from the 1/4 NPT to the size of the plastic plug threads that are just normal ol' 1/2-13 straight threads with a little groove for the O ring that does the sealing
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Is Canadian grass known to be fragile?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Is Canadian grass known to be fragile?


Must be, because the grass no sooner turns back to green after spring time fire up, then it turns brown again from winterizing. We blame it on Dave.
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Sounds like you’re winterizing too early?
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The 1st, (your favorite) got done beginning of August. The last beginning of December.
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Our winter has ended already, very strange for this time of year but I had to mow my lawn this week.   Usually don't do that till April.
I have not read the MSDS sheets but I was in Yosemete when a guy blew a radiator hose on the park highway and they had the police out there talking about him paying for an environmental clean up. They did not think it was non toxic.
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Mark, RV anti freeze is far less toxic than Prestone.
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Mr. D. the stuff they are talking about is called RV antifreeze and is developed / marketed for freeze protection of potable water and waste systems in RVs / cabins. Its ~3 bucks a bottle at wally world and universally used to winterize marine engines. This ain't ethylene glycol.
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:


I have not read the MSDS sheets but I was in Yosemete when a guy blew a radiator hose on the park highway and they had the police out there talking about him paying for an environmental clean up. They did not think it was non toxic.

Mark,
There are two basic types of antifreeze. The RV non toxic propylene glycol and then the toxic typically used in car engines which is ethylene glycol.


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Boater still in training I guess.   
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

Boater still in training I guess.   

Mark,
No, you just don't do as much winterizing in Californian as those who live in colder spots of the states.


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Why are you winterizing your grass Bruce
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

Boater still in training I guess.   

Mark,
No, you just don't do as much winterizing in Californian as those who live in colder spots of the states.


This is my 3rd boat but nothing like the other 2. I was in a pinch for time and all these kick ass people came through but one. Pretty good odds. I was able to drain all 5 drains and get 2 gallons of RV antifreeze through it before dark. It was 19 this morn and I feel confident that it will be ok. Thanks again!
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Just to double check on you, how did you get the antifreeze into the engine?

In the video at about the 4:30 point he talks about sucking up the antifreeze and has a hose hooked directly to the water pump inlet but.........he talks about hooking the hose in the back by the strainer or transmission cooler inlet.

That's so that whatever you're sucking up goes through the strainer, transmission cooler and the line from the cooler to the RWP.

Hopefully you hooked it up back there, otherwise your strainer, transmission cooler and the line to the pump didn't get antifreeze through them.

If you just hooked it to the pump, before you get to excited, if you think about the hose from the cooler being disconnected at the pump, and you laid that down in the bilge it would drain the hose and the cooler but the strainer would need to have the housing unscrewed and drained.

Why only 2 gallons?, most people do 5 gallons to get the antifreeze run through everything and coming out the exhaust with the suck up method

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They say it's non toxic, but it kills my grass. Dump a gallon on your grass and see what happens.

Bruce,
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:


They say it's non toxic, but it kills my grass. Dump a gallon on your grass and see what happens.

Bruce,
Are you sure it's not your dog?



Good call and I noticed that. I went for the inlet hose from the lake but I could not get that hose off for anything. I was able to get the hose off just past the strainer. I believe that hose also had the 2 tranny cooler hoses running back to the tranny. The only thing that I couldn’t get was the strainer itself but I was able to flush it. I also added 2 more gallons of rv a/f this morning. We don’t have much more cold weather in the forecast I don’t think. At least as far as I can see out. Maybe 3-5 more nights of freezing temps and it should warm up. Thanks again!
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I think you'll be fine then.

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Originally posted by C_Heath C_Heath wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

Boater still in training I guess.   

Mark,
No, you just don't do as much winterizing in Californian as those who live in colder spots of the states.


Haha what a comment. 99.9% of helpful people and one with little mans syndrome. It’s ok I got it. Thanks to all that helped. This is my 3rd boat but nothing like the other 2. I was in a pinch for time and all these kick ass people came through but one. Pretty good odds. I was able to drain all 5 drains and get 2 gallons of RV antifreeze through it before dark. It was 19 this morn and I feel confident that it will be ok. Thanks again!


Chris, not sure whose remark you didnt care for, since I think MrMcD was referring to himself, not you and Pete was just poking him. Not sure if you have been lurking here for a long time and know how we get along, or if you just discovered us, but keep in mind, some of us have been on here together as many as 15 years. (wow, hard to believe, isnt it guys) and one of the rules of conduct we live by was stated nicely on this little meme(?) I stumbled across recently..



So, dont take offense to anything said, no harm was intended, welcome aboard, and glad you got the info you needed to get through this little, albiet annoying, cold snap. We've had a mild winter and when it warmed up last week (in the 70s for those of you not paying attention) I thought we had turned the corner toward spring, and then we get clobbered with low to mid 20s   Ugh.

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


Mark,
No, you just don't do as much winterizing in Californian as those who live in colder spots of the states.


Chris, not sure whose remark you didnt care for, since I think MrMcD was referring to himself, not you and Pete was just poking him.


Larry,
I wasn't trying to "poke" at Mark at all. In Fact, I was trying to make him feel better about his boating and antifreeze knowledge since as mentioned, parts of California don't need to worry about winterizing.


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Chris, not sure whose remark you didnt care for, since I think MrMcD was referring to himself, not you and Pete was just poking him.

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Lol sorry guys it’s NC for North Carolina. 🤪. My bad for not being clear. I didnt think about that. It’s all good men! The forum has Ben super helpful so far. I’m just thankful for the help. I’m sure it won’t be the last I’ll need. Have a great rest of the weekend.
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