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    Posted: October-04-2021 at 8:26am
So happy I "tuned in" this morning to see all the blood and guts.......I hope all have healed well, although this could explain some behavioral issues??
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You guys keep this up and the Carnage of http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26045&title=morfoot-vs-chainsaw       will make it's appearance again. Wink
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Larry, I hope your wound healed up well.  Just got to view this today thanks to Ken's link.  Wow you are lucky it was not even worse.

Back around 1981 we were in a jet boat with over the transom headers.  Had a carburetor issue while out on the river.  My buddy and I were both sitting on opposite sides of this 455 engine working on the carb.  A large boat motored by, I did not even think about it, focused on the carb problem.  When the boat wake hit this little Jet boat our boat rocked enough that I tipped over, directly on to one of the header pipes.  To get off that pipe I pushed with my forearm to lift my body up and away so more of my body did not hit the headers.  In about 5 seconds my arm burned about 1/4" deep.  Took about a year before that scar was really healed and the skin was looking better.   Dumb things happen very quick but the healing sometimes is not so quick.  Yep, it was June, messed up a lot of good ski opportunities.   Could have been worse.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Copper is still being used Pete. I'm not familiar with how the lines run where you live but lets just say it comes out of Antioch central office down 59 then down 132 to say a main box at 132 and Deep Lake Rd. Then from there to your house. Ideally on copper 12-13000 feet is the limit for data,the farther out the slower. What they would have done is run fiber from the central office to a new box at 132 and Deep Lake Rd. Now the "Central Office" is at that corner. Copper from there to your house probably no more than 3-4000 feet tops even to the Big CQ's house. What should concern people is what the company has accomplished political wise. Used to be as a communications company they were required by law,at least in Illinois most likely other states too, to restore the line in 24 hours or be fined. They managed to get that changed,they are now considered an entertainment company,it will be fixed when they get to it. Really dried up the OT. I hear the next step is wireless maybe thats the 5G? - that will even do away with the Direct TV divisions satellites.

Now back to Larry,sure hope the pain is subsiding by now.....


Important phrase here (besides wondering about Larry's leg) is "Really dried up the OT".....glad that I am retired.



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Copper is still being used Pete. I'm not familiar with how the lines run where you live but lets just say it comes out of Antioch central office down 59 then down 132 to say a main box at 132 and Deep Lake Rd. Then from there to your house. Ideally on copper 12-13000 feet is the limit for data,the farther out the slower. What they would have done is run fiber from the central office to a new box at 132 and Deep Lake Rd. Now the "Central Office" is at that corner. Copper from there to your house probably no more than 3-4000 feet tops even to the Big CQ's house. What should concern people is what the company has accomplished political wise. Used to be as a communications company they were required by law,at least in Illinois most likely other states too, to restore the line in 24 hours or be fined. They managed to get that changed,they are now considered an entertainment company,it will be fixed when they get to it. Really dried up the OT. I hear the next step is wireless maybe thats the 5G? - that will even do away with the Direct TV divisions satellites.

Now back to Larry,sure hope the pain is subsiding by now.....
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Gary, I wonder how much longer there will even be direct wired home and business phones! With mobile/VOIP and coming 5G is there any hope for old Ma Bell copper 2 wire telephony?
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Actually they are very lite it's like numerous strands of thread with like copper thread individually wrapped around that. What your thinking of is having the guy's at the test board putting coin return on the pair. Normally if you needed to give someone in the company a short you just used your needlenose. but if you were doing a acceptance test for an external customer like a reseller you'd use those because the testing took so long. If you slipped they'd have to start the test over and get real crabby....
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Here are official Bell System ones, jbear approved. 4 times the price same end result....

That "official" jumper looks pretty heavy duty. Is that the one you use when you call into the office and ask them to do the zap and burn to "clear" the line when you can't really find the problem?


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Did you phone guys always use jumpers with the insulators over the alligator clips on backwards?

Looks like an invitation for that uncontrolled tingling twitching sensation with bare connections in the wrong application/situation

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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Here are official Bell System ones, jbear approved. 4 times the price same end result....

That "official" jumper looks pretty heavy duty. Is that the one you use when you call into the office and ask them to do the zap and burn to "clear" the line when you can't really find the problem?


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I have a close friend in the HVAC field and I always joke with him about how many jumper wires he and his men carry with them. You should have a few?   


Cheap imitations. Here are official Bell System ones, jbear approved. 4 times the price same end result....

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We have one for setting the valve lash, but we don't use it to start the engine.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

I have the same type of starter trigger switch, find it very handy when working alone on engines, turn the key to on .

And one of these so you don't have to jump back and forth to the ignition key switch.



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I have a close friend in the HVAC field and I always joke with him about how many jumper wires he and his men carry with them. You should have a few?


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I have the same type of starter trigger switch, find it very handy when working alone on engines, turn the key to on and activate the starter while doing whatever I am doing, or even key off cause the starter to spin. Strangely given Larry's injury I consider the remote switch to be a safety item.
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   Nasty. Hope it heals well, and soon.

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WOW, Nasty Larry. At least you did it working on a boat and not something stupid like slamming your thumb in a car door! Amazing how bad stuff happens in a blink of an eye.
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Ok, to recap, primarily for Ken's benefit, since he has been consulting me with this issue since October (but like I said, I took a few months off for another (non-boat ) project

So you may recall from my "DUI Distributor Question" I put in my old espark, which seemed to run good for about 15 minutes, then got rough. In the course of messing with it, moving wires around, using resisted coil with resistor, resisted coil without resistor, various iterations, it finally quit completely. Plus, doing a test I found on youtube, it appears I may have burned up my espark. So I went back to proven set up. A new replacement of my very original coil (Prestolite 5-69) my original resistor (forget the Ohms) and a new espark. I put it all back together double checking against standard wiring diagrams and espark instructions. First turn of the key, deader than elvis. Look again, oops, lead from coil to dist wasn't hooked back up (Hey at least the rotor was in there, isn't that the most common reason engines don't start after service?) Hooked the lead up and that's when it sprang to life. Like I said above, that test lasted only about 5 seconds and that is why jury is still out. Too soon to tell if its running smooth (i.e. no misses) and too soon to tell if this set up will fry the espark over time, but I am optimistic.

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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I'd like to know why the boat started?

Ignited compressed fuel?


That 305 is a hot engine...must have high compression...
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I'd like to know why the boat started?

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I'd like to know why the boat started? By remote start, do you mean one of those switches that connects to your solenoid?
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So Larry...........enough of the gory chewed up leg stuff,     

What's the story on the distributor/wiring that seems to work now, since the engine came roaring back to life?

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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

My thoughts exactly as I was scrolling thru this Bill. It may be years before I open my motor box again.
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I thought that Eddie knowing your skills, put a hasp and lock on your box so you can't get into it?


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      Ouch Larry!! Potential for things like this is just another reason Eddie forbids John from even opening up his motor box!! Knowing you this is just a minor bruise!



My thoughts exactly as I was scrolling thru this Bill. It may be years before I open my motor box again.

OMGosh Larry....I can think of a million things that I'd rather see than that 1st picture.

My wishes for a speedy recovery go right along with everyone else's.




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     Ouch Larry!! Potential for things like this is just another reason Eddie forbids John from even opening up his motor box!! Knowing you this is just a minor bruise!
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Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:


.When you wakeup today it will be nothing but a memory.


All things considered, I slept pretty well last night, but whenever I woke up, all I could hear was the sound of those blades tearing away at my leg.

Originally posted by Donald80SN Donald80SN wrote:

Larry,
Glad you are ok and did not stain the hull of that white boat.
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Oddly enough, it did not bleed much. Good thing. I was home alone. Significant bleeding might not have ended well

Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:


ouch Larry advil up that doesn't look like its gonna feel awesome any time soon.


Actually, not too bad. Fentanyl enroute, morphine at the hospital. That wore off at about 11, but I've been getting by with OTCs since ,despite the doc giving me some hydrocodon.

Never had morphine before. Before administering, the nurse rattled off about 20 possible side effects. I thought this should be interesting, now I can see what all the fuss is about opioids. Other than the pain disappearing, I felt no other side effects. Guess I dont have to worry about becoming an addict.

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Maybe someone else will avoid making same mistake.
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Definitely a "Lessons Learned" moment, which I really shouldnt have needed. I am typically extremely cognizant of rotating parts in concert with hanging wires, strings, clothes, skin..... I think I was so stunned that the boat actually started, that it caught me off guard and since it was throttled way up and water was not on yet, I leaped before I looked. But good point. Let's be careful out there.


Amusing little side story. I got into house to call 911. While on one phone with them, I called my son (off duty cop and paramedic) at the same time. Since he just left the house, I knew he was close by. As soon as he answered, he said whats going on over there.? He had already heard the dispatch to our house before I called him. Pretty good service. He arrived about same time as others.
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That’s another good reason to buy a V-drive. All of those spinning thingies are out of reach. Glad you’re put back together, Larry. That was a very ugly bit of work that alternator did on you.
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Why am I the first one to ask this ....... is the alternator OK???

That looks bad, had to hurt like hell. Hope it heals quickly without a lot of stiffness.
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Larry, that is awful. Glad it wasn't worse. I hope you heal up quickly!
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That is a scary looking injury. Glad you are ok!
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Welcome to the club there Larry Boy or should I say Larry Bob? Nice wound....very nice indeed! It'll leave a conversation starter of a mark for sure. I'da gone with a barefoot rope slashing. " Yeah, I took a header and somehow the rope got around me leg and did a number on it. I'm more PO'd about my Dry Suit getting trashed."   Everyone thinks my knee injury was done by a chainsaw but truth is that the Slalom Fin bit back rounding ball #5. Be thankful it was February wound and not a May wound like mine. It kept me off the ski for about a month in Premo weather.

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