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    Posted: November-29-2014 at 1:21am
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I apologize for taking my frustrations out on the entire forum. I own, appreciate and restore, or at least re-do, Correct Craft boats. Leaving the forum spites no one but myself. I look forward to future discussions and hope to be able to make positive contributions regarding the preservation, in any form, of Correct Craft boats.

Here is the web address of my Restoration Photo Log of the 1986 Ski Nautique we recently restored. We will begin work on a nearly identical 1982 next week. The owner has requested the same interior treatment as we gave the 1986:

http://www.nautilusrestorations.com/main/1986-ski-nautique/

This is the web address for the Restoration Photo Log of the 1963 CC Debonnaire:

http://www.nautilusrestorations.com/main/1963-correct-craft/

I have attached three photos taken this afternoon of the 1969 CC Barracuda. All that remains to do is install the engine and the outside aluminum rub rail. The owner provided the upholstery and we scrubbed it as clean as it would come.

Not to rub salt into any wounds but I have also attached a photo of a 1954 Atom Skier which I converted to dual cockpit runabout configuration at the owner's request.







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hello nautilus.i hope my 69 barracuda ss turns out as nice as yours when it is done.keep up you work.original or not wee need to keep them still on the water.dan in ohio
what you dont want to hear from jbear and bill.you cant get in the boat till you get your minute,and they throw you back in water!
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hello nautilus.i hope my 69 barracuda ss turns out as nice as yours when it is done.keep up your good work.original or not we need to keep them still on the water.dan in ohio
what you dont want to hear from jbear and bill.you cant get in the boat till you get your minute,and they throw you back in water!
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Nice work! Keep the pictures coming please as we all love seeing photos. Glad to have you back.
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'Cuda looks great,I can just imagine the hours involved. Did you do the paint? Is the whole hull the same paint or is something else used on the bottom? Since the interior matches is it safe to assume it was orange to begin with? I just Imron'd my Shamrock this summer so I know the time,expense and the amount of work you went thru on just the hull alone not to mention stringers,electrical work etc. Great job!
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Originally posted by Nautilus Nautilus wrote:

Forum Members:

I apologize for taking my frustrations out on the entire forum. I own, appreciate and restore, or at least re-do, Correct Craft boats. Leaving the forum spites no one but myself. I look forward to future discussions and hope to be able to make positive contributions regarding the preservation, in any form, of Correct Craft boats.

Here is the web address of my Restoration Photo Log of the 1986 Ski Nautique we recently restored. We will begin work on a nearly identical 1982 next week. The owner has requested the same interior treatment as we gave the 1986:

http://www.nautilusrestorations.com/main/1986-ski-nautique/

This is the web address for the Restoration Photo Log of the 1963 CC Debonnaire:

http://www.nautilusrestorations.com/main/1963-correct-craft/

I have attached three photos taken this afternoon of the 1969 CC Barracuda. All that remains to do is install the engine and the outside aluminum rub rail. The owner provided the upholstery and we scrubbed it as clean as it would come.


Jan,
Keep on working on those CC's!
Just to help out, the CCfan site doesn't automatically create links.

Here's your first link
And your second link

For direct links, go to "post rely" rather than "quick reply". Clicking on the world icon brings up a box where you add a description. The next box is were you past the link address. I understand there are problems with this method on a cell phone.

Once again, keep those CC's in the water!


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Yes, the boat was originally orange and cream colored. I took my best shot at matching the colors. I think I got the orange right on the nose but the off-white turned out to look bright white so we repainted it. I used PPG automotive paint.

The engine is finished and will be installed on Monday, as will the outside rub rail trim. We'll do a shakedown cruise late next week then winterize the engine, load her onto the trailer and she'll be ready for the first warm day of spring.

The links I posted were not meant to be "clickable"...just be copied and pasted into your browser.

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Nice looking shop too
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Nautilus

I lurk on the site a lot, but rarely post anymore. Too much drama and BS and "my way is the only way". I've enjoyed looking at the pics you've posted and following your previous thread.

Don't let a couple of a**holes run you out of the site. Keep up the good work!

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I'll take your advice...and thanks. Yes, sphincters can ruin a forum if you let them. Best plan is to ignore them, not retreat. I'll be sticking around.

I just added a restoration photo log of the Barracuda to my website...copy and paste into your browser:

http://www.nautilusrestorations.com/main/1991-2/
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Jan,
Do you have a personal boat? If so, can you fill us in?


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Up until two years ago, this was my boat:



I now own eight boats. The newest is 1988. The Stingray and Formula both run. The other six are projects, including a 1955 Shepherd that I will be converting to a rear cockpit racer powered by a V12 American-LaFrance engine.



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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

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Gary - try leaving your finger on the text for a second or three it might give you a couple arrows to move to the front and back of the text you want to copy - and a menu that allows you to copy - when you want to paste after that go to where you want to paste and touch there for a second or three and the paste option should come up
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Thanks Joe haven't quite got it yet but can see with practice that it will work. My son always tells me I should take a class
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Jan,
Thanks for filling us in. I've never seen an American-LaFrance in a marine application. Was it originally in a fire truck and you're converting it? What's your plan for a trans? The Sheperd's being a heavy and very stout built hull, it sure will be able to handle that engine.


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Hi Jan
On the Barracuda is that a glass windshield ? and the windshield corner brackets are those original to that boat ?

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Yes, the windshield is glass and the brackets are original to the windshield. I have no idea if the windshield is original to the boat but it does fit like a glove and there were no extra holes in the topsides to make me believe there was once a different windshield mounted. The brackets are pot metal and they were painted Eastwood aluminum rather than having them re-plated.
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Originally posted by Nautilus Nautilus wrote:

The brackets are pot metal and they were painted Eastwood aluminum rather than having them re-plated.

Jan,
Have you ever had any problems with coatings adhering to zinc die castings? How do you prep?

Yes, your windshield is original.


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I lurk on the site a lot, but rarely post anymore. Too much drama and BS and "my way is the only way"..... Don't let a couple of a**holes run you out of the site.

Rob, you've been around here a while. I think anyone who hangs around realizes how much valuable info is available to all of us. I'm fine with a few pointed comments because I always know those same people will take the time to help out in any way they are asked. And to be honest I really think there is less drama here than pretty much any site I visit.

Jan, very impressive work!
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Originally posted by Nautilus Nautilus wrote:

Up until two years ago, this was my boat:



I now own eight boats. The newest is 1988. The Stingray and Formula both run. The other six are projects, including a 1955 Shepherd that I will be converting to a rear cockpit racer powered by a V12 American-LaFrance engine.





Me LIKEY!!!!! BUT, we need more info on the engine!!!!



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The engine is a 1947 American-LaFrance V12-J, 527 cubic inch displacement, 215 HP @3,600 RPMs, OHV, 24 spark plugs, two 12-point distributors each with two sets of points and four coils. The 12-spark plug version was originally used in mid-1930s Auburn automobiles. When Auburn went bankrupt, American-LaFrance bought the rights to the engine and re-worked it for firetruck use, including secondary heads holding four spark plugs each and a second distributor driven from the generator. It originally had two top-mounted carburetors and cast iron exhaust/intake manifolds.

I designed/built an aluminum intake/exhaust manifold sending the exhaust straight out the top and allowing the fuel to be supplied by six Carter YH marine carbs. The engine will drive a PCM 1.23:1 transmission through a Bentzen adapter and flywheel through an aluminum BBC bell housing. I'll be using a 14/20 cupped nibral prop (per Michigan Wheel) which should allow 50-55 MPH at 3,600 RPMs.

Now all I need is time and energy to work on it...and money. Donations accepted.
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[QUOTE=Nautilus] I'll be using a 14/20 cupped nibral prop (per Michigan Wheel) which should allow 50-55 MPH at 3,600 RPMs.[QUOTE]

Wow, that's got to be a custom prop?
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That's not too oddball of a size, at least if he's running a 1-1/8" shaft. There were big block 1.5:1 boats that used similar sizes, though most were LH.

You must have quite a bit more than the original 215hp if you expect to see those kinds of speeds!

Neat engine for sure.
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Jan,
Thanks for filling myself and others in on the engine. It's sure interesting and I hope you post the results.

I'm a little surprised on Michigan's 20" pitch recommendation but they are the experts. The RPM's are low but so is the HP for the heavy hull of the Shepard. The 1.23: 1 sure will help. One thing you didn't mention is the torque. I'm sure the engine has a pretty decent stroke and like so many of the engine back then had plenty of torque.

Keep us informed.


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The prop is a little rare but is built by Michigan Wheel. They did the calculations based upon length, width, weight, length at waterline, transmission ratio, horsepower, etc., etc. This engine has a ton of torque. Frankly, I'll take whatever speed I can get. I'm just building it to pick up hot senior chicks with big boobs. Think it'll work?
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That is a complicated engine! It must take a lot of patience and know how to get running right. Those old engines are a completely different beast having low rpm and hp, but massive torque. I've got a friend that is rebuilding a 1915+- Scripts V8 and I forget the numbers, but the rpm and hp are very low, but the torque is very high.
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