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    Posted: April-09-2014 at 10:05am
I bought a 69 SN back in the fall knowing it needed a lot of work. Why I bought it, I don't know, but I gave a guy some money and the boat followed my truck home. This is going to be my second stringer job, so it wasn't like I didn't know what I was getting myself into. I've been collecting parts over the winter and now I am fired up and ready to get started.

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Trailer was sandblasted and painted


Seats & Engine Cover were freshly recovered


Engine runs great, compression is good, trans shifts and doesn't have a dirty neutral
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Pulled off all of the trim, disconnected the engine and pulled it last night




Engine is out, finally have room to work




It is supposed to be nice out today, so I am going to pull off the through hull fittings and cut the floor out. Stringers are toast, I know this because lag bolts just spun when I tightened them and I can sink a screwdriver about 4 inches into the main stringers.
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Wes - what a great project, the gel coat (red) appears to be in great shape, unless it has been painted. Could you do me (and maybe a lot of folks on the site) a favor, could you construct some sort of template for the stringers. At some point in the future, I am probably going to have to do this to my Dad's boat. Anyway, it will be fun to watch the progress!
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Nice project
Keep us up on the progress
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I still have the stringers out of my '85
Thought I'd hang on to them in case I wanted to put them back in to make it original again for Pete

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I agree, that is a nice looking project. Did you do the trailer sandblasting or is that something the PO did?
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WOW! Nice looking old SN! Definitely worth the work!!!
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Originally posted by ny_nautique ny_nautique wrote:

I agree, that is a nice looking project. Did you do the trailer sandblasting or the PO did?


Thanks, Previous owner did the trailer, the interior and paid someone to get the engine running again (hadn't been started since 1998).

Can anyone identify if this a #2 or a #3 trailer or know what the length a #3 trailer is? This trailer seems kind of short for this boat. I know the boat can go farther on to the trailer, but I am starting to suspect it is a #2 trailer. When I first got the boat I walked to the back of the boat and the tongue went up in the air. Luckily with my cat like reflexs, I moved forward and it went back down.
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Wes - what a great project, the gel coat (red) appears to be in great shape, unless it has been painted. Could you do me (and maybe a lot of folks on the site) a favor, could you construct some sort of template for the stringers. At some point in the future, I am probably going to have to do this to my Dad's boat. Anyway, it will be fun to watch the progress!

Steve,
Unfortunately it is paint. If I have the time and energy I am probably going to strip it, but I have some concerns as to why it was painted in the first place.
As far as a template, when I did my Mustang, like most, I pulled the stringers out one at a time and used the old stringer as a template. it was easier to matched the bottom contour. If they come out clean I will try to make a template for you.
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Originally posted by wwchevy wwchevy wrote:


Can anyone identify if this a #2 or a #3 trailer or know what the length a #3 trailer is? This trailer seems kind of short for this boat. I know the boat can go farther on to the trailer, but I am starting to suspect it is a #2 trailer. When I first got the boat I walked to the back of the boat and the tongue went up in the air. Luckily with my cat like reflexs, I moved forward and it went back down.


It looks to be sitting in the same place as our Gen1 Ski Nautique sits on it's factory trailer, tough to see but the end of the trailer lands almost between the words in Correct Craft.


Although I have never experience tongue going up in the air... Its tough to tell but it looks like your boat may not be all the way forward. A couple inches could make a BIG difference.
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That is a #3 for sure, not a #2. The boat does look to be sitting too far aft, which was confirmed when you almost tipped it! Get it moved forward to the point where it has proper tongue weight (10% = 200-300lbs) and it'll be fine. The standard (non-low boy) CC trailers stopped well short of the transom until 1984.

You'd be amazed at how many people paint boats just because they dont know any better. If there are no cracks showing through the paint, that means they either had a major repair that was fixed properly (every crack ground out and filled) or it was just painted to "look better", not knowing the gel could be restored. I say remove it and take your chances!

Bummer on breaking the steering wheel, those arent easy to find.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Bummer on breaking the steering wheel, those arent easy to find.


I'll second that, hope it's easier then finding the one that went on our 63, actually the center cap was as difficult to find as the wheel - who knew it was off a Packard!
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Bummer on breaking the steering wheel, those arent easy to find.


The steering wheel was heartbreaking. I have no one to blame but myself, fat guys shouldn't grab on to old brittle steering wheels to pull themselves up. If I could kick my own A$$, I would.
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Nice Boat, Is that the original stripe? I see in the 68 reference brocure that the stripe ends at the spray rail.
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Completely un-restored and original. It has been in my family since it was purchased new from a factory rep (it was a demonstrator). The boot-stripe is "kind of original", I remember helping Dad re-paint it in the mid 80's, but it was definitely in that location and went all the way to the bow. Even though the Gen 1 Ski went from 1961 til 1970, there were some pretty big changes from the early gen 1 boats til the later ones, note especially the removal of the center deck circa 1966.
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I particularly like the green mottled bottom accents.

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I particularly like the green mottled bottom accents.



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Had a lot of fun today, cut the floor out, removed 26 garbage bags of soaking wet foam. Boat should be about 800 lbs lighter in my estimation.


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Wondering if anyone is familiar with how this steering wheel center comes off. I have done enough damage and don't want to pry on it and snap it off- not that I would do that. Should have taken it off when I bought the boat.
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Wes,
Yup, another soggy foam boat by CC!! Keep up the good (and PITA) work.


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The small (round) center cap pries right out with a small screwdriver. It's held in by a bunch of small metal tabs. Go easy, but it's not real fragile. It should come very easy.
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I'll have to check when the marina opens back up if I still have one of those wheels, same ones came in alumnicrafts in the early 60's. Is that a Chrysler 273?
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Originally posted by wwchevy wwchevy wrote:





I have a steering wheel like that    Minus the trim




Here's one on E-Bay-- but mine would be 1/2 the price of that one.

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Is that a Chrysler 273?

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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

The small (round) center cap pries right out with a small screwdriver. It's held in by a bunch of small metal tabs. Go easy, but it's not real fragile. It should come very easy.


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Originally posted by Hussler Hussler wrote:

Is that a Chrysler 273?


No it is a 318. I did have a 273 in my mustang. With the copper exhaust pipes it sounded sweet. It actually scared my neice
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Originally posted by wwchevy wwchevy wrote:

Engine runs great, compression is good, trans shifts and doesn't have a dirty neutral

Probably this one, Pete.

The 318 was pretty common in the SN at that point, 273 was more common in the Mustang.

Obviously it's been painted, manifolds replaced, etc.
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Yeah, which is crazy that the manifolds have been replaced and they already look pretty bad, that engine looks like its had a rough life.

I love those 318/273's i've grown really really fond of my 273.

If you need any parts for this 318 let me know, i'm tearing apart a 318 currently.


That boat is amazing looking, too bad it's painted, you have a lot of orginal parts though....too bad on the steering wheel, i'm worried about ***************ing mine up also...has anyone looked into a good way to reinforce the wheel? I've thought about trying to figure out a way to fill the cavities on the backside with an epoxy to strengthen it up a bit.
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[QUOTE=turningpoint84] Yeah, which is crazy that the manifolds have been replaced and they already look pretty bad, that engine looks like its had a rough life.

I love those 318/273's i've grown really really fond of my 273.

If you need any parts for this 318 let me know, i'm tearing apart a 318 currently.QUOTE]

Peter,
I too will be tearing apart a 318 soon. Engine ran great, good compression (125- 140 psi), idled good, no smoke coming out of the exhaust- but when I drained the "oil" the other day it was water, followed by milky sludge. I haven't torn into it yet, but I assume a cracked block. Before winter, I drained the block and disconnected all of the hoses. i guess that when I start my investigation, I will find out for sure.
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Originally posted by MartyMabe MartyMabe wrote:


I have a steering wheel like that    Minus the trim


Marty,
I received the steering wheel, trailer decals and the extra decals that you put in the package. Everything looks great, I really appreciate doing business with you. Everything in the package was something that I really needed.
Thanks again.
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