Wisconsin Re-call Elections Next Tuesday

A friend of mine was trying to get me to take another look at Romney. He sent me some information that that I was not aware of. Maybe there is a reason to take a second look at him. His beliefs may be closer to mine that I first thought.
Romney;
1. Supports a woman's right to choose ( abortion rights)
2. Supports gay rights.
3. Supports affirmative action requiring equal hiring and salary to women and minorities.
4. Designed the and implemented the original Obamacare.

That is an eye opener, that and the fact that he and I share a 15% tax bracket!
Maybe he is more like me than I thought!
Romney on abortion, gay rights, affirmative action

john b wrote: A friend of mine was trying to get me to take another look at Romney. He sent me some information that that I was not aware of. Maybe there is a reason to take a second look at him. His beliefs may be closer to mine that I first thought. Romney; 1. Supports a woman's right to choose ( abortion rights) 2. Supports gay rights. 3. Supports affirmative action requiring equal hiring and salary to women and minorities. 4. Designed the and implemented the original Obamacare. That is an eye opener, that and the fact that he and I share a 15% tax bracket! Maybe he is more like me than I thought! Romney on abortion, gay rights, affirmative action

John....Welcome aboard sir!!   

We have a big tent over here! Come for the affirmative action, and healthcare and stay for the balanced budget, entitlement reform, and focus on controlling the national debt. I knew you would eventually come around.   

Oh, I'm sorry, my mistake, that was the other Romney programmed for a MA election. I almost thought he meant what he said for a minute!
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL!

Had to bring this one back. John, I was re-reading some of your posts about how good things were with the high Illinois taxes as compared to Wisconsin. This week I read that the Chicago teachers are striking. Mayor Ron Emanual, former chief of staff for and current fund raiser for Obama (can you say double dip?)is putting his foot down. He is Ok with wage negotiations but is trying to limit health care increases and put in performance pay. Hmmm sounds very similar to Scott walkers goals. And yet I had to dig very deep to find the story, and I saw no recall or occupy efforts. Out of desperation to keep the kids off the streets the mayor has called on civic groups including CHURCHES to create day camps. What happened to the separation of church and state? No God in the classroom but a classroom from God is just fine when Emanuals butt is in the wringer. The other problem is feeding all the kids on food assistance. I guess things are not that great in Chicago.

Just to be clear on the subject. I believe that many churches and parishioners do wonderful and charitable work. Without churches and their programs many homeless people would have no food or place to sleep. Churches do so many good things for their communities that I won't even try to make a list. In addition, they give many members a sense of belonging and a value set that is important to them. I have no problem with the mention of god on government buildings or our currency, and I don't want to see them removed. This applies to all religions equally. I do not like to see churches become politically active and try to control government policy, be it the Catholic Church or the Nation of Islam or anyone else. I may not believe in god, but I do believe in the goodness in the hearts of many of the people who attend church. It is very hard to participate in a discussion about religion without offending someone. It is not my intent to do so. I love this site and the people on here.
Please accept my apologies for anything that may have hurt your feelings. I was just trying to understand how others think about sensitive issues, while allowing them a glimpse of my beliefs.
I would hope that the Maloon family would appreciate the diversity of those who enjoy their products, and the loving care and thousands of hours expended to restore and maintain them. These boats have provided many people with hours of pleasure, family time, and memories they will have for a lifetime.
I will avoid the subject from now on because it has been the cause of grief among some of you, and I always remember that I am only a guest here.

davidg wrote: And, to add to this, I have been hearing reports over the past day or two that Wisconsin's reforms are starting to really kick in and have very positive financial results for the state of Wisconsin. As time allows, I will try to find an article and post it. Scott Walker rules!

Ok, lets see the links to Walkers positive results, especially recent polls, results, articles, reports, etc.   


I can't wait to see this.    

davidg wrote: Here you go One Wheeler! Read 'em and weep! I know you libs just LOVE stastitics. This article has a few good ones for you. His reforms are even saving teachers jobs! Wisconsins Reforms Showing Positive Results

Nice piece.

I was hoping for a bit of actual numbers for the state. One or two districts in the state, doesn't really add up to your claims of "working", let aside all other aspects the economy.


That is like saying, "my car uses so little gas, I love it", while it sits in the shop for extended repair.

davidg wrote: Come on OOW. Don't make me do all the work. I would love to have you show me an article that things are going horribly since the reforms.

If I use an article like you posted, it would be huge.

I'll post in a bit, it's 9pm, and the casino calls.

There are plenty, and from good sources too. Follow your advice and Google it, National review isn't a top dog in news.


Wisconsin does look good from across the border. You are in Ill anyway, and I'd be looking for greener pastures myself too.   

Ahhhh, yes, Wisconsin, Illinois playground!

john b wrote: Ahhhh, yes, Wisconsin, Illinois playground!

Funny, I didnt find anyone in Chetek WI that had a problem with the 1500 "Illinois bucks" we left there in early August.........

davidg wrote: [ More funny numbers again, I am sure Dave! Just wait until OOW finds a lefty article disputing all of our "anectdotal" data. He'll probably find something in the NY Times! I can't wait to see what he comes up with.

I think the NYTimes is to right wing for Seth. One school system alone saves 100 teachers jobs just by getting a competitive bid for health coverage and he complains about the source.

But if we re-elect him he will fix it. Is he not president now? why wait?

Wait a minute.

How is getting rid of teachers good for Wisconsin?   

davidg wrote: By the way, you guys been hearing that Moody's is about to down-grade the U.S. debt...again! Two times under one regime, er, uhm, I mean administration. Thank you liberal policies!

Dang man, you really are allowed to post?

You should have done the right thing and finished the statement by saying the truth. Leaving out the reason totally discredits you. It's all about the failure to agree.


Here is the full text courtesy of FOX.

Moody

You'll get the uneducated and those that really don;t care enough to read but not me.

I received the nicest email this morning. I have posted it below. It is surprising to receive this from a former very hard core Republican.

John B, you have been an extraordinary friend in so many ways. Helped when I've needed help. Consulted when I needed consultation. Discussed with logic and reason and compansion politically polarizing views which too often end or damage otherwise good friendships. Cheryl and I arrived at a solemn epiphany last night which I felt you would understand and appreciate my sharing with you. Cheryl and I discovered that niether of us trust Romney or Ryan. Particularly Ryan with his mission to pass all the burden of medicare from the wealthy business owners and corporations to working people with their desire to implement "vouchers" which would soon be worth ten cents on each medical dollar. Also, as we and most other workers who have contributed to social security thier ideas of reforming social security means deminishing and postponing these earned benefits which well result in more years of work and lower wages for all to the advantage of wealthy owners and corporations. We're both pretty fed up with the Republican scare tactics regarding all other issues. It looks like we are going to place our trust in Obama, and hope to God that its the best choice even if its the lesser of two evils (all politicians). John R