Gas prices

Cheap gasoline, or any other fuel, is not a right. It is not the government's job to keep gas prices low. If you want that move to Iran where the government uses just such a tactic to keep the people happy.

I've traveled in Europe and the Middle East. Gas was ~$10/gallon. Everybody still drives. The difference is that we have built a society that is highly dependent on cars and cheap gas while many of them at least have viable alternatives such as a working train or bus system. They also tend to be much more dense. My officemate is a German, and she told me last weekend that her home city, though the same population as the one we both live in now (~300,000), is only about a third the size in area. Much easier to walk, cycle, or bus to the store.

Cheap gas, urban sprawl, McMansions, ski boats... Just like with taxes we want it all but we don't want to pay for them. The earth is finite. Most resources, including the majority of the energy we use today, are finite. Instead of complaining about how expensive gas is (in another few years you will think this looks cheap) make some changes in your life, your community, and your country to adjust to reality rather than trying to get reality to adjust to you.

well said, I drove a truck that got exactly 12 mpg, up hill down hill, pulling a trailer, doin the speed limit, gas spiked to 4.00 a gallon and i swear i was spending roughly 400.00 to 500.00 a month gassing it, my car gets cloe to 50mpg now and i now spend maybe 120.00 a month and diesel is right at 3.89....that 350.00 i save goes into my pocket and i dont miss the truck, thats for sure, i adjusted, hopefully the next car i purchase will get 60 mpg, thats whats important to me

I don't know but something just doesn't add up

Subsides need to end

record profits

Hansel wrote: Cheap gasoline, or any other fuel, is not a right. It is not the government's job to keep gas prices low. If you want that move to Iran where the government uses just such a tactic to keep the people happy. I've traveled in Europe and the Middle East. Gas was ~$10/gallon. Everybody still drives. The difference is that we have built a society that is highly dependent on cars and cheap gas while many of them at least have viable alternatives such as a working train or bus system. They also tend to be much more dense. My officemate is a German, and she told me last weekend that her home city, though the same population as the one we both live in now (~300,000), is only about a third the size in area. Much easier to walk, cycle, or bus to the store. Cheap gas, urban sprawl, McMansions, ski boats... Just like with taxes we want it all but we don't want to pay for them. The earth is finite. Most resources, including the majority of the energy we use today, are finite. Instead of complaining about how expensive gas is (in another few years you will think this looks cheap) make some changes in your life, your community, and your country to adjust to reality rather than trying to get reality to adjust to you.

Jamin, You are absolutely wrong. As I posted above we have a department of energy, and it was set up to give us affordable energy and keep us competitive in the world market. That was 45 years ago, and just like most the other government we fund they are bad at their job. They have a mission, if they do not want to do it then lets at least stop funding them. The reality is that gas does not cost $10 a gallon to produce and supply, people in Europe are forced to pay that because of government social engineering, and that is one of the reasons the US economy left Europe in the dust, at least until we decided to copy their ineffective model rather than stick to the one that made us famous.

This country is not Europe, we can fit most of their countries inside most of our states. Mass transit makes sense in a New York or Metro Chicago, but not in 99% of the US. My reality which I am well adjusted to is that I install hardwood floors, I carry a van full of tools and have to haul up to 1000 square feet of wood at a time. That requires a 3/4 ton van. When gas goes up to an all time high, it effects business income, so the cost has to be passed on or taken off profits, which effects government tax collections. I hope you are aware of what is going on in the construction industry. We were hit first, hardest, and probably will be tha last to recover. Running out to get an eco-powered mother earth hug-able work van is not in the picture, we are all making do with what we have. That is reality. Another reality is that our president has a stated objective to raise fuel prices to make his green agenda SEEM like it is needed. He is hamstringing our economy at every turn.

Minneapolis/St Paul had a wonderful and complete light rail system in the first half of the 1900's. Our politicians were paid off in generous kick backs in the 1960's by general motors to replace it with buses. They tore up the tracks, and had a giant bonfire of trolley cars. Now we are taking half of our states transit money to try to rebuild a new system because our government officials have decided they want one back again. The problem is it does not go where I need to go. I cannot load a table saw, miter saw, air compressor, 1000 feet of hard wood.....onto if it did. I do get to sit at stoplights that it overrides every time it goes by. It also seems to run over pedestrians on a fairly regular basis.

As I said before, We have been told since 1910 that we will run out of oil in a decade or two. I was told in the 70'S by my junior high tree hugging science teacher that we would be out of both oil and drinkable water by now. Current estimates have us at least 50 more years of supply and they keep finding more. I plan on doing my part to make changes and it will start with who occupies the oval office and my states Governors mansion.

I thought liberals were supposed to be the whiney ones, how come is is always the repubs on here bitchin?

JoeinNY wrote: I thought liberals were supposed to be the whiney ones, how come is is always the repubs on here bitchin?

Liberals are either too busy blaming Bush or patting each other on the back for the well done Obama.

This will make you smile Eric,the US leads the world in this Yeast Gas now if they were to change the beer yeast gene.....so you can drink and then wee in the tank

anything you atomize, burns

I was un Utah last week and parked next to a late model Suburban that ran on CNG (compressed natural gas), Hydrogen and E85. He had tanks under the truck and in the back. I also saw an electric charging station in front of a drug store for electric cars. I was told that CNG costs about half what regular gas does. We don't have anything like that in the north northeast.

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but again, laws laws laws, which is a form of regulation and it is needed...if we didnt have laws or regulations, we still would be in horse and buggors QUOTE]

Which law was it that made Henry Ford invent the assembly line. More likely they woiuld be bailing oit the buggy whip manufacturers.

harddock wrote: JoeinNY wrote: I thought liberals were supposed to be the whiney ones, how come is is always the repubs on here bitchin? Liberals are either too busy blaming Bush or patting each other on the back for the well done Obama.

You got that right my friend. And Obama has always got a plan. "i GOT A PLAN TO FIX ALL THIS"! He coundlnt fix a flat tire..

GlassSeeker wrote: He certainly fixed Osama Bin Laden

No, he just took credit for it.

I do know the role. I also know that the ground work for the "capture / kill" was in place prior to Obama's administration. He was in the right place at the right time. I believe with the current administration's numbers being at a all time low, the decision to go in risking both soft and hard assets was a "all in" move to save any chance of a second term. The U.S. military deserves all the credit and pretty much handed to him. He would have to have big balls to take any credit for that in any upcoming debate.

Commander-in-Chief mean anything to you? Osama was killed under orders from President Obama.

spin it however you like it won't change the facts. Nor make you right.

GlassSeeke Apparently you do not know the role of the President of the United States of America.[/QUOTE wrote: Yes we do. Dont raise taxes!!Dont force or use federal goverment over our liberty or freedom.

Yes we do. Dont raise taxes!!Dont force or use federal goverment over our liberty or freedom. Quit kissing the Afganstains asses. Quit going against the foundations of America, the U.S Constitution. He ruined the healthcare system and education is now non affordable. And QUIT BANKRUPPTING AMERICA!!