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Sorry, I also looked at teh MV2 document in the reference section, just not sure which way the "throttle arm" (number 20 in the exploded diagram) connects, as it can be attached in 4 directions.
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Chris - What happened to the photos in this thread?
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Kevin, they're back up now. Guess thats what I get for uploading them with my facebook account. They're uploaded in photobucket and should stay up now.
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Super. Thank you, Chris. Added this thread to the FAQ.
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While I am waiting for the Clevis for my rudder to arrive I decided to look into why the throttle starts engaging before it shifts into gear. I have found some excellent descriptions of how to adjust these, so I will try that on the weekend. In the mean time I have disassembled the morse to give it an overhaul. The previous owner has operated on the "if some grease is good, more is better" principle and filled it up. It took me forever to clean it out!! so now its looking a lot nicer.. Which comes to the questions....
-how much grease do I need to put in upon reassembly?
-The "cam" looks fairly worn, how does it compare with others people have seen. Is this part available to give it a more crisp feel?
-The lever that attaches to the back of the morse looks "modified" (cut off). Is it shorter than factory?
Again Thanks in advance!
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I am not an expert but I'd say that your cam looks oddly worn. My MV-2, which is similar but not the same, didn't have that wear pattern at all. I do not believe that there are parts available for these controls unless you find a used one somewhere to scavenge for parts. I would grease things up with a good amount of white lithium grease, put it all back together and see how it works. You might be pleasantly surprised. If it is not satisfactory you may just need a new unit.

That arm you think is shortened looks relatively normal to me.
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Hey Guys,
Started reinstalling the Morse today. I had read the posts explaining how to adjust the cables to avoid the engine increasing in revs before the gearbox engages. I tried the method described, ie. leave the cable detached at the carby end, move the lever so that the gearbox is in gear. At this point the throttle should still be at idle so the throttle cable should be adjusted so it can be connected at the in gear position without opening the throttle.
The problem I encountered is that when you pull the lever back to the neutral position it tries to close the throttle further putting a lot of strain on the throttle linkage. Cam anyone guide me further in how to adjust it correctly.
Previous to today it had been opening the throttle before engaging the gearbox, cause a harsh "clunk" into gear.
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I need to do an update to my post above. In the last two weeks or so I discovered that when I installed my MV-2 into the boat, the leverage I was able to put on the throttle was easily able to over ride the safety on the throttle. If you look at the photos of my breakdown you'll notice how very worn the "TOP" piece is on my throttle. Since we can't seem to find a source for these anywhere I was considering just machining one of my own.

Then, I found something on eBay and last week I won a NOS MV-2. It arrived in it's original box yesterday and included an original set of pins, cotters, and mounting screws (this was a surprise since the auction only mentioned the mounting screws). I won't give away the price I paid, but it was a very good deal. I think this likely was because the seller noted it was set up for a left-hand installation. A quick check of the MV-2 owners manual confirmed that all that was needed to change to a right-hand configuration was to remove a set screw, flip the throttle over and presto - right hand configuration.

I sure wish there were a way to restore the "TOP" pieces, because that is the only thing needed to fix these parts to brand-new functionality. Well, that and the springs that break all the time.

My eBay win is below. I've since flipped around the throttle arm to the correct configuration. It also came with a neutral sensing electronic switch that is not needed, which I have removed:


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Kevin:

I know exactly how much you paid....... you out bid me! It looks great.

I have an NOS MV-3 avail for $150 if you want to add to your collection!

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Steve, PM sent.

Edit: My eyes were playing tricks on me. I thought your post said MV2.
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MV3? Never seen one on a CC.

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Tim:
Correct as always - Non-OEM for CCs...... They are sold as replacements.... the guts are almost identical ...but the MV-3 has the swooshy look on the throttle arm and faceplate...... See above!
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White Lake offers those swooshy ones as replacements. I guess it's better than nothing.
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will an MV2 lever fit on an MV3 control?
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I think it should....I'll look.
BTW, Is it still NOS if it's disassembled? Ha!
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Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:

Kevin:

I know exactly how much you paid....... you out bid me! It looks great.

I have an NOS MV-3 avail for $150 if you want to add to your collection!



Ha ha ha... I wondered if somebody else on here was the other serious bidder for it. Thankfully, we did not bid-war each other too much and one of us was still able to get a good deal. Before you jumped on there I was winning it with a bid of only $36!!! I knew that was too good to be true and wondered if it would even meet the reserve.

The next MV-2 on eBay is yours.

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What's kind of interesting is that first MV-2 went for big money, like over $250. Then, right after that, a couple more surfaced immediately. It's like a couple guys were like... hmmm... I have something like that sitting in the garage.
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Brian - I thought the same thing. Hopefully more guys with a few of these lying around will let them go to those of us who need them!
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I've got an MV-1 in good shape that I could let go..... but I am pretty proud of it!
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Awesome post, Chris.

I second (third? fourth?) setting up a "How To" forum, to reduce the searching. The experts on this site can determine which threads should make it into the How To.

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Steve,

Here is the Correct Craft Fan Frequently Asked Questions. It disappears off the front page and I have to bump it up now and then. Thanks for the reminder.

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The release lever thing does not work on my boat (black "cup" under knob). I can move the selector into gear without having to pull up on the release thing. Not sure if the PO messed this up when he replaced the throttle cable. Any idea what I should be looking for to make this function properly again?
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PM Zach at N# Boatworks. He has a replacement lever. They are hard to find.

Some guys have successfully replaced the spring, but on mine the pawl was too rounded off to work, so I replaced the lever.

It is a great safety device, worth the cost of repair. Cheaper than a funeral for sure.
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The release lever moves up and down, but it doesn't appear to be locking anything in place. Not sure if the lever is bad or if something was simply not installed correctly. I'll have to check the exploded diagram to see how this thing works I guess.

If I take it apart, I'll post some pics. I would like to have this fixed.
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JP,
The culprit just may be the spring. 1st- do this-- There's an allen screw on the bottom of the throttle. Leave the throttle in the upright position, loosen this set screw, and take the arm off. Then look at the guts there on the backside of the throttle arm . You'll see the locking paddle and a spring. You'll see how it comes apart- a roll pin I think. The spring should be about 3/4"-1" long. This spring if broken- take it to your neighborhood hardware and find one close. I think I got some that were 2" in length and cut them in half.
If this spring is broken- take pics to show us- and if you can't find a spring- let me know and I'll send ya one.

Or fly me down and I'll fix it for ya !!
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Thanks Marty. I'll take pics on Sunday when I am working on the boat. I am installing a new fuel/water separator and changing out the trans fluid.

I sent the Correctcraft dash plaque to you earlier this week. If you didn't get it yet, it should be there shortly.
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Yes- it arrived on Wednesday. I'll get it to my plaque guy and see what he can do.
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Sounds good.
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I bet your spring is broken. Do that before trying to find a replacement lever part.

Zach @ N3 - do you really have replacement parts for the little piece that locks the lever in place (the part that says "TOP" on it)?

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Great thread! I disassembled my MV-1 last year in order to clean and lube it up. While apart, I also powder coated it using a home setup. It's a great feeling when your throttle control works as new again!

Before:



Internals:







Cleaning:



Blasting the cover in my old blast cabinet:





Applied semi-gloss black powder using hobbyist powder coat gun:



Into my "powder coat oven" (a freebie from Craigslist... do not use your cooking oven for this!):



All done!



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