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    Posted: January-30-2012 at 11:49am
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Just dropped off my boat with mr Eric la vine today, planning on having him upgrade my boat.
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I used a heat gun and a plastic putty knife like you use for body filler. Any remaining glue can be removed with a rag soaked in rubbing alcohol
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Heat gun and your fingernails,,, Be careful though as one can burn their fingers.
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Any suggestions for removing old decals, the correct craft since 1925, flag? They are worn out but still stuck to the boat well, I don't want to dig holes in the gel getting them off.
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Also doc, remember with tranny on she will be A** heavy, I found that positioning the hoist right over the back bowl on the carb was a fairly well balanced spot to lift from. I agree on removing the carb, its easy to pop off and just better to have it out of the way. If you drain the oil first, if you really got into a bind you could pop the oil pan off and that could give you the extra clearance you need.
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The carpet and upholstry were original I think and I know the skirt on the trailer was. The brown hull was paint and there was reddish bottom paint under that on the low side. I hadn't gotten to fixing the paint when the BFN came up so I can't swear to the gel color on the hull.

One note I should have included with that engine pic...it was all pre-CCFan. Thanks guys, I know better now.
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Sorry Greg, my mistake
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Gary, have never seen one that color, the "Brown Pearl". Is that an original color? Thanks
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Welcome and thanks Doc. Here's the 79:





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Thanks Greg, nice photos, post some of you 79 pics when available please.
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Originally posted by DrStevens DrStevens wrote:

Yes, I have an engine hoist, having not done it, seems daunting. I suppose the more skillful part is reassembling the watch. Your tip on the chain length, clearance are the type of things I was looking for, pitfalls to avoid, thanks.


A few things that may help are removing the near exhaust manifold and setting your boom hook short but still long enough to swing. Pulling the carb may allow a shorter lift chain and it's delicate. Another delicate may be the distributer.

I haven't lifted a 351 in a long time so some or all of this may be off. Just try to think ahead a few steps and realize that most things will lose against a chain with an engine hanging on it.



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Nice day here, used onand off, and 3m rubbing compound and an orbital polisher to clean up my gel coat. Looks a lot better, thanks to all the CCF posters about how to do this.
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Thanks for the advice, and offer to help, your post replies are a help.
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ya I know New Albany,I used to live in dublin, so very familiar with Cbus. Well too bad you arent closer to canton, I would offer to lend a hand.
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New Albany, a northeast suburb of Columbus, boat to spend its time in Michigan.
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Doc,
where you at in OH?
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well its coming along, I will probably get to work on it more this weekend. I am just about done grinding, which will be nice, Im tired of the dust and itching. I also have most of the wood fabricated so hopefully things will start going quicker.

I havent touched the engine yet, just sitting on the stand. Hope no surprises lurk therein, like a rebuild. Yuck.
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Probably try it in about 10 days, then tranny to Medina to visit Eric's FF hospital, and engine to be worked on locally. Thanks a lot Justin, how is your project?
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It took about an hour from start to finish to get it on the engine stand. The engine was out in 20 minutes took more time to get it adjusted so it would sit on the stand. Really pretty simple.

Also obviously you will have to unhook the fuel line from the pump, plug a socket extension or big screw driver in the hose so gas doesnt pour everywhere. I think thats everything I can think of.
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ya may want to measure a bit and run the hoist up all the way and see what kind of clearance you have. You could always remove the oil pan to gain some clearance. That would be a last resort though. Watch the valve covers too, the chain will want to bind against them and you wouldnt want to crush them so if you use the lifting rings that are on the heads you cant make that chain too short. Just dont get in a hurry.

Also on mine the drive coupler was really froze on. After I removed the four bolts, I worked a putty knife inbetween and pushed forward on the engine and it came free.
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Yes, I have an engine hoist, having not done it, seems daunting. I suppose the more skillful part is reassembling the watch. Your tip on the chain length, clearance are the type of things I was looking for, pitfalls to avoid, thanks.
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uhh well, it has been documented. I just did it. Just unhook the wiring harness, the batter cables, the water line, the throttle and shifter cables, the 4 bolts in the coupler from the tranny to the shaft... I dont think anyone really did a step by step. Its not too difficult. Do you have a cherry picker? Just make sure you have clearance to get over the side of the boat, so dont make your chain to long or you will not be able to get it over. I know some people have had to let the air out of a tire to get it over the side.
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Going to pull my engine, any threads that exists for how to,tips?
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Thanks Gary, that is the type of result I am shooting for, really amazing when you see the starting point on some of these boats.
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My valve covers Steve are part of the original Holmam Moody conversion.You can get chrome ones at just about any Ford vendor. Don't tell anyone but I added 35hp just by changing over to these

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I found Eastwood paints has a Dark Ford Blue used from mid 70's through 1980. Gary your color, and engine look great, where did you get your valve covers?
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Just for reference Steve I painted mine 1941-48 Ford Blue

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Ok, thanks, old Ford blue is name I thought I had looked at the auto parts store,and internet search. I will check again, it is definitely a darker blue and green than Keegan's. There are at least 3 shades of Ford blue depending on the era.
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I pulled those pictures from 4 different boats in the diaries- all from the '74-77 vintage. I would say that if your engine matches them, then its the original colors.

I cant help you on the particular colors- I havent had to match them before. I do think the Rustoleum Grabber Green looks pretty close, at least on this monitor... but youre best off going to an auto parts store to see what they have thats close. You'll want to use high temp paint on the manifolds, and preferably the block as well.
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