87 Barefoot Nauti
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Topic: 87 Barefoot Nauti
Posted By: NAUTI84
Subject: 87 Barefoot Nauti
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 1:23pm
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For all you Big-Block junkies.
Ran into an old friend who's selling this baby: http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/471491794.html - Nice 87 BF ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 1:26pm
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Damn, well now that the cat is out of the bag that is the boat Johnny is looking at. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 1:36pm
Well, maybe that will light a fire for JJ to get moving on the boat rather than throwing out excuses. I didn't have any money when I got my first boat, and, last time I checked I still don't have any  ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Hollywood wrote:Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 2:17pm
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Hollywood,
Tell Johnny you will sell him the jet skier a lot cheaper than that!  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 7:15pm
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 8:12pm
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502...wow. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 8:18pm
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My wife has been asking me what I want for Christmas.
Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-20-2007 at 10:08pm
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 10:58am
Yes. I was going to look at it for him, but the guy wouldnt unwinterize. Can't do much til spring without a test drive. ------------- |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 12:39pm
Yep, winterized & no water in his pond. Not many test-drives going on in N.E. this time of year. Although I bought my 84 - Feburary in Ohio. Drove out, looked it over, pulled it home. A week later it had a foot of snow on it. I mustuv been young & crazy  !
(But I just did the same with a Motorhome - Flew out to Tenn., bought it and drove it home.) ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 12:56pm
I drove our 00 home on 2/4/06 in a snowstorm, 220 miles. The entire time I was envisioning what seemed like an inevitable horrific accident with the boat and trailer, but it never happened. At the end of the ride the guide poles on the trailer had a wedge of ice on them facing forward- aerodynamic! ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 1:38pm
It confuses me why people even bother listing boats for sale if theyre not willing to let a potential buyer test drive them. This is not the only instance Ive run into lately and it baffles me! I test drove my '90 with Joel in Nov '05. You test drove your '00 when you bought in Feb, right Joel? Unless a boat is severely underpriced and is worth taking a chance on, I cant imagine buying a boat without driving it first. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 1:51pm
Yep, test drove a 95 siggie in October of 05,98 in November 05, and then the 00 in late January of 06 in Indy. The 00 dealer didn't hesitate to dewinterize it for one second, one of the several reasons they got my business. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 2:14pm
Tim, I guess it comes down to the feeling you get about the sale. With my 84, I had talked with the guy, he was a fanatic, beautiful boat, great condition, already winterized (no water in his lake either) I jumped on it! No regrets. With my MH, they had a nicer rig than they knew they had, hard-luck story and had to sell. Paid the low asking price on EBAY, took a 1000 mile test drive driving it home. No regrets. You can get a pretty good gauge by talking with people. And by taking a good look, you can usually tell how things were cared for. A little risky - yea. But, if it's really what you want, it's also risky that a guy like me would come along & it won't be there in the spring. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 2:14pm
| Maybe the buyer should pay for the re winterizing if he doesn't buy the boat. That would eliminate the tire kickers. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 3:01pm
3 gallons of anti-freeze, no problem! ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 4:06pm
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Bought my 85BFN the first Saturday in December 06. I had footed behind it one time the previous September. It was a gamble that nothing had changed, but the price was nice. The photo in my link below is from the day I bought it, notice the snow?
Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-21-2007 at 6:11pm
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I am with you Hollywood, hell I will rewinterize it for him if I didn't buy it. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: Towman
Date Posted: November-22-2007 at 3:44pm
| Is the 502ci motor a marine only and who built it? Im also surprised its fuel injected what year did PCM start using FI on there motors ? Thanks |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-22-2007 at 3:56pm
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there using it in 3500 series trucks and you do see them alot in the marine world, the king builds it, Chevrolet
i believe it is a stroked 454 and possibly a different bore, some of the race guy's get 572 cubes out of this engine. it is a torque monster. i was kidding about the king thing im a chevy guy, and we always need controversy on the site ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: November-22-2007 at 10:23pm
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Fellas,
I believe it is a *gasp* Merc engine. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-25-2007 at 11:33pm
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how much different is the merc from the PCM python, anyone know. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-26-2007 at 10:26am
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the internals i imagine are the same, the stuff hanging on them may be from different companies, i know merc has a no pump no crank carb out on the carb models ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-26-2007 at 2:27pm
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So if it is a merc then I believe it would be a bulldog instead of a python. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-26-2007 at 10:28pm
| OK GUYS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT 87 BFN WITH THAT 502 IT IS FAST . THERE WAS NO WATER IN THE POND TO TEST DRIVE IT. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 4:32am
What can you tell us? Is it your boat? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 2:41pm
I guess we better take it to a pond with water, mine will work. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 4:05pm
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the bull dog is a 8.1 litre 496 cubes, they have a black scorpian which is speced for ski boats but its a small block, 350 mag mpi, they also have the mx 6.2 black scorpian 377 cubes also for tow boats 340 hp rpm range 4800 to 5200 niiiiiiccccce ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 4:12pm
Holy Sh*t! I thought my computer jumped over to Planetnautique after checking back in on this thread! I posted the link because I thought some of you motor-heads on here would drool over this boat. But, it's turned into a bullsh*t thread over winterizing??? If your interested, make a call. I'm sure you'll be able to find out anything you want to know about the boat. This guy knows ski boats up/down/inside-out! His family has had ski boats since they started to walk. (4) brothers (all excellent barefooters/skiers) w/ (4) ski boats. (Seeing their boats over the years is how I caught the Ski-boat fever.) If ya want to be clowns head over to the Planet. If you want straight Nautique talk stick around here. As I said before- My understanding is that it was already winterized & No water in the pond! Enough bull-sh*t! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 4:48pm
I do believe there was some drooling going on here.
Easy, just a few jabs. Wouldn't necessarily throw it under the BS bus quite yet although you are helping.
Now I'm a bit more surprised that winterizing would be of absolutely any concern. ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 4:50pm
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the point is it's not a factory motor, so everyone is asking questions because of that, and if someone is really interested in the boat then re-winterizing isn't a big deal as the boat would most likely sell and the owner would be re-winterizing it anyway.
And then let's not forget about the slow responce by you, we here have been here and will be here and sorry about ya feelings on the sleeve oh thin skinned one. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 5:24pm
The 496 and 502 dont share the same block, do they? Scott, Im not sure what BS youre referring to. The lakes here arent frozen yet and winterizing a boat is no big deal. Plenty of us have test driven boats in the cold. Spending $12k on a 20 yr old boat without a test drive would be a serious leap of faith. I can see how a serious potential buyer would be frustrated by the situation- even more so now that the boat has been flashed in front of all us drooling CCFans. I understand that youre coming from the other side of things by knowing the seller. I probably wouldnt have dropped a Mercruiser into a BFN, but any Nautique that runs in the 50's is OK by me. ------------- |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 6:04pm
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This whole thing is really a shame as I mentioned to JJ that I was going back east over the holiday if he wanted me to tow it home I would. We we're sort of jokin about it but if I had known I was going to be that close to it it could have worked out for both parties. I just spent 3 days at the Ramada in in Seekonk, Ma. Coulda cranked that baby up, taken it for a spin and towed it home. I guess I missed where the boat was located until today.
Flip side to that is I'll be going back in May and I will drive if I have something to pull home.  ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 6:10pm
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to close of cubes to share the same block, i dont know, all these new engines they are coming up with at Chevy is puzzling, One thing about Merc is thier R and D is next to none, I imagine sometime in the not so distant future one of the big three will offer a limited edition hp600SCi, its factory charged with warranty, i bet though it will be a 15k option. the only 502 available from merc now is the 525 hp and up models the rest of the line-up are at 496 cubes and under in which these are all naturals ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 6:20pm
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 6:55pm
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Believe me guys, I'm not trying to sell the boat to anyone.
(and in my short talk with it's owner, I don't think he was trying real hard to sell it immediately either. He bought another Hot boat at end of season and had put this one away for winter) I just knew it was a pretty cool boat that would be of interest on this site. But, sorry to interupt, by all means - continue the winterazation bannter
Chris - No thin skin here. Was just surprised that the thread went in a funky direction? Alan - If I knew you were back East, I would've bought you a few beers! The Ramada is about 10 mins from my house. If your back in May, drop a note. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 9:47pm
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 10:26pm
| FOR THE RECORD I DID NOT SAY THAT I DIDN'T WANT OT UNWINTERIZE IT FOR THE RECORD THERE IS NO WATER IN THE POND !!!AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY. I HAVE BEEN READING WHAT YOU ALL HAD TO SAY. BUT LIKE I SAID THER IS NO WATER IN THE POND AND I DON'T WANT TO BRING IT TO A PLACE THAT I DON'T NO. IF ANY OF YOU POEOPLE WOULD LIKE ANY MORE INFO ,FEEL FREE TO CALL AND I WILL GLADLY HELP.THANKYOU PS. A NEW PROP COST TO MUCH. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 10:44pm
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easy with the caps and who swaped the motors it didn't come from the factory that way. so inlighten us on the modifications. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 11:06pm
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Ned,
I have a solution... Run a hose to the pond and call me when it is full.
bj ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 11:09pm
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bj: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 11:11pm
| i change the motor with a 502 merc it fit right in with no real mods that had to be done. just had to change the prop rotation . because 502's rotate the same as a truck. it took about 16 20 20 hrs with my self and nephew it went realy smooth.put it in the water and let me tell you that bfn went like a b---ard!!! 54 with with 2 people in the boat or 51.5 with 4 200 # guys and a 200# guy one foot long line it is a turn key operation, like scott said i bought another hot boat. so i really wasnot pushing to sell it because of the time of the season. so if you have any ?? feel free to ask |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-27-2007 at 11:18pm
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would have thought it would run out better than 54. But with the rotation change how did it effect the ride and handling of the boat. With the deep-V hull design maybe it doesn't effect it has much as it does a SN. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 10:09am
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NEDLUTZ,
I didn't relize that was you, welcome to the site. Didn't mean to put your boat in the middle of a bitchin/whining session like this thread seems. Just knew that many on here would love to here about that boat. Most guys here are very knowledgeable and I've learned tons from them (as I have from your family). This is a great boat site - Welcome aboard! (Don't worry, with that new toy, you'll be welcome even though it's from another camp! )------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 2:01pm
I must be missing something cause the only one I hear whining is you? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 2:20pm
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Wow, 502 in the BFN! That thing must be able to tow a battleship. I know James' BFN with the 454 with seven people in it pulled very strong. Not to mention the gallons of water coming over the side when that boom was low. James, we couldn't slow you boat down if we tried. That left a long lasting impression on me.
The million dollar question, could this boat pull 4, 5, or maybe 6 guys out, deep water start? I would guess that it have more than enough balls to yank many footers right out of the whole. Very cool boat, love the colors too. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 2:39pm
Here's a proud owner's look after a great morning out on the BFN.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 3:52pm
Quinner, Guess I just took some of the comments the wrong way. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 7:00pm
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NAUTI84
that's ok i just thought that i was on the witness stand a lot of peopl bashing i know what the boat is and you do also .they can contact me if they would like to talk |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 7:08pm
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 7:40pm
| i am running a 14 x 14 it gives a good holeshot i also was running a 14x16 but not as quick, but more speed about 56. 57 by gpsi did a test one time 0 to 54-55 with gps 16.5 sec's pretty fast ,one of my brothers have a malibu he only gets me for the first fifty feet then i walk by. |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 8:15pm
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 8:37pm
I asked our head of maintenance at the plant who races a 496. He said yes, it was the first stroking/boring of the 454. The 502 was the next step with some minor bore changes. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 8:55pm
Thats what I always assumed. I was told not too long ago by someone that seemed to know a BBC's pretty well that they were different. It seems I got bad info. ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-28-2007 at 10:05pm
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I didnt really know, with numbers that close to each other it would be kinda stupid to design a new block and cast it and re-fit everything else ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 12:37am
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Ken: Who else in the pic besides James?
BTW: Lotsa clouds and the water don't look that nice. Looks cold too. Musta been some tough runs! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 12:45am
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Jbear,
That's Mike Siepel Driving and James (87BFN) in the middle, it was at GL this year, he did some footin lessons on Sat AM, and yes, the water was pretty rough all weekend. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 1:01am
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CQ: Thanks. Sieple looks to be getting a little gray around the edges. Used to see him at the Mid-America Boat Show in Cleveland.
BTW: Had a compu crash awhile ago and lost your phone number...would you mind e-mailing it to me? john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 1:10am
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JBear, no problem it's 1-900-get-some
Talk too you soon! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 1:32am
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Now Chris...I never know if you are serious.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-29-2007 at 11:44am
Forgot his extension, *dix ------------- |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 1:44am
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huh?
He always speaks very highly of you HW. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 3:56pm
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 4:20pm
 highly offensive and slanderous!------------- |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 7:06pm
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87BFN
I'm running a 3 blade prop14x14 it is a made by johnson prop co. nibro supper cup, the 14 16 was just a little doggie out of the hole but like i was saying the 13 13 is very quick the RPMS are about 49500 |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 7:10pm
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87 bfn
i was trying to put a pic up there for you , of the motor but i couldn't get it to up load,hopefully i can get it straight i think it might be the web |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 7:15pm
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 7:56pm
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87 bfn
it was running 4800 i think i got the pic to up load thanks for that info this was motor on the pallet . i did not use the merc man.and risers i useed the pcm manifolds i also took the closed cooling system off because it all would not fot under the hood it is really tight under there. i did have to put a small lift kit on the motor box the dis. was hitting it it came out really nice . [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/ |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: November-30-2007 at 8:06pm
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Your pic will not come up. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 12:09pm
attempts 1 and 2 failed for me ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 2:27pm
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87bfn
this is one i think that this one went through http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/nedlutz/08_08.jpg"> |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 2:42pm
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Brian, The photobucket opens to a "page not found". You have said that you installed the 502. If you did it yourself, I sure hope your mechanical skills aren't anything like your grammar or computer skills!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 4:21pm
Here you go gents:
 ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 4:45pm
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Cool Joel that you got it up for him...some of you guys are good on these dumb computers.....well the computers ain't as dumb as the operators sometimes.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: December-01-2007 at 5:23pm
| THANKYOU |