How much do you crank it?
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Topic: How much do you crank it?
Posted By: Nautique2001
Subject: How much do you crank it?
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:24am
A lot of first engine starts of 2007 is right around the corner . On average, how many cranks does it take to get your engine fired back to life? My 1980, I used to have to disconnect the fuel line from the tank and pour gas into a funnel to fill the fuel line. Then it would take 2-3 good cranks and high idle to keep it running. My '86 takes a 4-5 pumps of the throttle and a couple of cranks. I need to keep some RPM's going to get it nice and warmed up. Then for the rest of the year, one throttle pump and one crank. Do the EFI's just fire up on the first crank??? Good luck to everyone this year.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:26am
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EFI,s fire within 2 turns, it is nice to have injection at times ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:34am
| I'll try to get a quick vid of the GT40 "waking up" for the first time this year. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:35am
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I usually crank it over first with out the coil wire on and the plugs out and with fogging oil in each cylinder before I even try to start it then, it takes just a second for it to fire and idle. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: jon4pres
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:39am
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Last year to my surprise mine started on the 2nd crank. It shortly died but after I turned the idle up a bit it ran like a top. I always pump the gas 3 or 4 times before I start it to get a little gas in the motor. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1801&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980 - 82 2001 jon4pres@gmail.com Fort Scott Kansas |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 11:43am
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Joel,
I'm planning on getting a video of my first fire-up of the year. My engine rocks and rolls for a short while until the temp starts to climb. Plus, the water is like ice, which doesn't help the warming process. I feel bad for some of the outboard motor folks when they're cranking over for the first time. It's not uncommon to hear them hit the starter 20-30 times......and then....HUGE smoke screen. 
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:02pm
From what I've read, Quinner cranks it every couple of weeks, if not more often, during the winter BKH------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:05pm
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This winter is the first time I've ever
A) Fogged each cylinder independantly for layup and B) Used AF in the motor during layup so I hope this spring that A)I don't hydro lock it and B)nothing froze. It's amazing that things I do to prevent problems also create new worries! I'll probably spin the crank a few times with the plugs out before I let it rip. |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:11pm
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Yikes, that's one thing I didn't do, fog each cylinder. Should I squirt some mystery oil in each cylinder prior to start up? Wouldn't hurt, right?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:15pm
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I do it just in case there is a little surface rust, if there is it usually takes care of with a fresh squirt of fogging oil and turning it over to coat the cyl walls. any excess is blown out the spark plug hole on the compresion stroke. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:15pm
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I don't miss these days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1ItpzduSQ - Smokey O/B ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:17pm
ya like daily would be a little closer to it... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
bkhallpass wrote:Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:20pm
HOLY SMOKES, check out this twin turbo boat engine.  That's going in my boat this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nsVNpkk_D8 - Twin Turbo Engine Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:23pm
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Where's Tim B on this Twin Turbo matter? Tim, what's your opinion here? Can this be dropped in a Nautique?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:32pm
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Don't let this happen to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwY1zAQEcM - engine fire ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 82 Nautique 1
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:46pm
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Where is his skier? ------------- Original Owner " Dennis" http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4855" rel="nofollow - 1982 Nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:52pm
Absolutely- all it takes is money. ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 12:56pm
Curious what the Hydro lock concern is? I always spray fogging oil in the plug holes when winterizing and drain water and replace w/anti-freeze. Prior to turning the engine over at all should the cylinders again be injected with fogging oil? Is it necessary to get that fogging oil out of the cylinders before starting/running the motor? If so should the motor be cranked over a few times with the kill switch pulled to ensure the fogging oil exits the cylinders or should it be cranked over the same way with the plugs out to achieve this? My experience with FI motors is they typically crank right up and idle fine after a lay-up while the Carbed motors tended to need a little more finesse prior to warming up. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 1:05pm
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Quinn-
I used the spray-can Penzoil fogging oil with about a 5 second squirt per cylinder and turned it over by hand before layup. The concern is that you'd put too much oil in and inhibit the piston from completing the compression stroke, severely damaging the engine. I can't imagine I put that much oil in each cylinder- it would be almost impossible- but it worries me enough that I'll spin the engine over a few times without plugs before I start it this spring. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 1:14pm
Our mastercraft is kind of hard to start if its been sitting for a while. It acts like the mechanical pump might be going south. BTW that twin turbo is nasty. Turbos are the coolest form of forced induction ever. I saw a vortech supercharger kit on ebay the other day for a pcm. 
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 2:07pm
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Joel,
You won't have an issue with Hydrolock, that small amount of fogging oil is not a problem at all. It will burn off quickly. If you're not certain then just turn it over for a minute without plugs and you'll be fine. Drap some shop rags over the plug holes so you don't shoot any oil on your interior. As for starting mine, I don't have a kill switch so I do it the 79 way and pull the coil wire and let it crank for just a bit to get some oil flowing. That also gets some fuel pumped up to fill the bowls, then it should start instantly. If you've still got last years plugs in it they could misfire until you get some heat in it but they'll clear up. I usually change mine in the fall after I foul the engine so start up is a breeze in the spring, of course this year I've got a little more to deal with
You still headed to Bennett's this year? ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 2:46pm
| Yes indeedilly. I'll have the full ski school report posted on my soon-to-be site which I'll be unvieling soon. |
Posted By: Behl
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 3:23pm
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When you crank with the plugs out you also build oil pressure in the whole engine so when you do try to start everything is lubed ------------- Steve in Indy http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1702&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - Redone 1977 Ski Tique |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 3:26pm
| Anyone know the size of the crank bolt by any chance? I'd like to buy the real socket for it so I can manually spin it in a few weeks here. |
Posted By: 82 Nautique 1
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 3:31pm
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Mine is 15/16" I put it on a short 6" extionsion and 1/2" drive
This clears my pylon nice and turns very easy This is on a 1982 351 frod ------------- Original Owner " Dennis" http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4855" rel="nofollow - 1982 Nautique |
Posted By: 82 Nautique 1
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 3:32pm
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Ford not frod...sorry ------------- Original Owner " Dennis" http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4855" rel="nofollow - 1982 Nautique |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 8:46pm
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I find the major difference in initial srping time start-up is having the fuel there. I usually use a small funnel and fill the bowl of the quadratoilet and it fires and runs great. The other has a 4160 holley with a electric fuel pump. The electric fuel pump works great as it fires right up too. Most initial crankin is from the fuel being dried up in the bowl requiring the mechanical fuel pump some time to get the fuel there.
Jeff... ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: March-07-2007 at 9:52pm
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btw, Ken, fine job of naming your topic. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 11:08am
Hey now! Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 3:44pm
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yeah, i would agree on the topic name,,, its a daily struggle to not make a remark... seems too easy. & since i dont crank my boat during the winter & have no information on this topic, ill just keep moving along...hahaha OH BTW it's suppposed to be 53 & 58 degrees here on Monday & Tuesday next week!!!!!
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 4:11pm
I got a sunburn walking on the beach yesturday afternoon, ,upper 70's for the week-end ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 5:34pm
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79, I got wet feet from walking in the snow.. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 6:49pm
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 7:03pm
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Well around Indiana we would always get a late snow around basketball tourney time so don't get too excited it's guna snow one more time up there. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 7:04pm
LOL, can't believe CQ missed this opportunity. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 7:06pm
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Joel he didn't even repsond to the daily crank comment. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: March-08-2007 at 9:39pm
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It's almost March Madness! ND won today.
I skied and ran the sport. Sun burn here too. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-09-2007 at 11:07am
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Dude,
How about that Irish Hockey team! Ranked No.1 for the first time in the history of the program! Go Irish!! 79' Sorry I missed the "Daily Cranking" Comment, come to think of it I am overdue for a good Crankin! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: March-09-2007 at 11:47am
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Somehow i'm never overdue for my daily cranking... i think that might have something to do with my not having a girlfriend... wait! are we talking about boats or... ohh sh*t, too much information hahaa
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: March-09-2007 at 5:26pm
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Chris, I have to admit I don't follow nd hockey as much as I should. Although, who has mostly grown up down here in Houston, wanted an authentic ND hockey jersey for Christmas. Santa obliged. Go Irish! Beat Hoyas! ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |