Back to back Buckethead’s
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Printed Date: May-17-2024 at 9:41pm
Topic: Back to back Buckethead’s
Posted By: gun-driver
Subject: Back to back Buckethead’s
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 11:14am
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The official times have been posted and CCF’s Deep Rudders did it again, they navigated the 38 mile course in 59.3 min with the 5 min mandatory gas stop at the turn for an average speed of 41.98 mph “ according to my online calculator”  Back to back champions!!!! Brad, Tim, Zach, Dave, Eric and Hollywood And also the Far Flung Footers from the south with a respectable run (for a bunch of old guys) of 1:16.24 https://ibb.co/FJqqmjc" rel="nofollow">  Edit: Forgot Eric on the list of skiers, sorry Eric 😔 |
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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 12:51pm
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That is really fun to see. Any pictures to share? How Hot did your feet get? Footing at speed seems to heat my feet till I have to let go. Not sure how you guys can do this, much more footing to toughen up the feet I imagine? ------------- |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 12:51pm
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Pictures? Got to share the fun. ------------- |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 6:53pm
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My feet would be torched! Congratulations on the back the to back. ------------- 2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski |
Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 7:28pm
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Very impressive !! ------------- Feels like I am hanging 10 but in reality - probably hanging 6. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-06-2023 at 8:17pm
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Buckethead has a Facebook page I’m sure pictures will be forthcoming. And yes it’s crazy brutal, fast and competitive, the guys that compete in this race are 1) bad ass 2) missing the part of the brain that puts common sense/rational behavior before self inflicted pain JMHO |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-07-2023 at 12:07am
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I like it Paul, 30 years ago I would have been in line to sign up, not today. Some things must be left in the rear view mirror but still so fun to see. If I foot today I only go 37 or 38, it is not fast enough to do any wake crossings or freely slide around. At 37 you are just plowing with huge spray but the falls don’t hurt as much and it is still bare footing! Many times I will even wear water socks, those small slip on shoes. Takes away 100% of foot pain and heat. Call me a sissy, I have done lots of true bare footing when younger now I just enjoy seeing if I can still do it. Puts a smile on an old guys face. ------------- |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: August-08-2023 at 3:21pm
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I bow my head in admiration! I would love to see that event filmed from a drone. ------------- Hotty Toddy lets go skiing! |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-09-2023 at 7:59am
EDIT: I feel bad I forgot about Eric as part of the Back to Back team.  Theres some pic showing up on the Buckethead Facebook.
One of the comments, Team “Deep Rudders” - these guys……don’t talk smack, very unassuming but will pass you like your prop fell off in their “stock BFN”. Extremely gracious and fun to be around, great work guys!!!! Guess Zach's boat is a little fast   |
Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: August-09-2023 at 9:37am
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Awesome job gents. Under hour cool looking 59:……. Boat is a bad ass too |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-09-2023 at 12:22pm
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Congratulations! That 454 must have burned some serious gas in 59 minutes straight of fast bare footing. Did you need to gas up mid point? ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-09-2023 at 2:32pm
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Always refueling… Don’t worry Paul, Eric barely counts
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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 2:36am
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If you don't mind the question what speeds were you guys willing to barefoot at? With all the stops and starts for the relay race I am thinking you were pushing 50 when you could to stay under the one hour mark with all those stops to reload. Very impressed with you guys. Nice work. Had to be a ton of fun. That would be a TV special I would love to watch! ------------- |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 8:43am
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Mark I asked the same question last year....from the response I received from TimB-yes your math is as correct. Blistering speeds for sure!! ------------- 2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 9:03am
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Congrats to the Deep Rudders! Very Impressive! ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 9:11am
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All of us Shallow Rudders kneel before the Deep Rudders in awe… ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 9:28am
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The boat driver deserves an award too Do the rules say you must stop and pickup skier OR can just launch new skier from boat and pick them up later |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 11:32am
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From what I understand about the rules about the BH and from a couple of practices I saw Deep Rudders do. They all take Turns footing and divide driving up between 2 or 3 guys. Boat must pick up fallen footer or tired footer and at that point the replacement guy jumps in while the previous guy quickly gets in the boat. Pulley attached to the extended pylon so footer already has handle in his hand when he enters water. Fast idle till line gets tight then hammer down to get new footer up. Timing is everything and it's pretty cool to watch the transition. Congrats Fella's!  ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: samudj01
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 11:39am
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Transitions are awesome…one of you guys, deep rudders or far flung footers, share a video “if” you have one. I know you have lots of video. ------------- 78 Ski Tique, 72 Skier w/302's, 93 SN w/351 & 17 GS22 w/zr409 Previous - 99 Sport Nautique w/GT40 and 87 Martinique w/351 |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 11:54am
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These guys are pretty tight lipped out speeds, lengths of runs, transition execution as it is all part of strategy, so you probably wont get much response. Here is a pretty good video showing transitions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FbOmIsDxA&t=186s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FbOmIsDxA&t=186s ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 12:31pm
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I’ve seen some of the teams livestream the race in the past. Which is cool! IDK if anybody did that this year or not… It’s very intense for sure! ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 12:44pm
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Not sure if this was live streamed last year or not, but it is Wolfpack's full race, well full right up to the point where their engine blew up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FrYCmAfGXw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FrYCmAfGXw ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-10-2023 at 5:08pm
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I am impressed by the speed and the talent to win that competition. Even in my prime barefooting days I could not get in and come up barefooting on demand. Heck I waited for ideal water, no boats, no wakes. You guys had to just go and take what was available each and every time. So much harder than picking and choosing when to barefoot. I kneel before you guys. That is an act you might take to one of the Water Ski Shows. Good Luck Next year. ------------- |
Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: August-11-2023 at 10:09am
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Thanks Morfoot good explanation The transition seemed like most important part. Sometimes it takes us 59 minutes to get one person up If I ever see a barefoot nautique might buy it, |
Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: August-11-2023 at 10:13am
| Can some name deep ruddder skiers left to right. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-11-2023 at 11:44am
| No videos here, but several others did livestream- and shared on the BH FB page I believe. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-11-2023 at 6:48pm
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Here's a video from last year as the Rudders just walk away from the Wolfpack. I love cranking up the volume with good speakers as Zach's boat sounds awesome. https://www.facebook.com/bucketheadbarefoot/videos/1679911175530962/" rel="nofollow - BFN vs BFN - Team Deep Rudder getting agro on Team Wolfpack. They easily had the best sounding boat in the race. Can’t wait to see them @mon.mania !!!!... | By Buckethead Barefoot Endurance Race - Facebook | Facebook |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-12-2023 at 6:09am
| That vid is from ‘21 (Dave’s boat), but still a good one! |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-12-2023 at 11:11am
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Damn you’re right 🤪. I pulled it up on my phone and couldn’t see the color and didn’t pay attention to the year. Yeah his boat is kinda fast too for a “stock BFN” 😂😂
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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-16-2023 at 2:26am
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Pulling a footer at more than 50 MPH with 4 people in the boat takes some serious engine power. I am guessing you guys are not stock. If you guys get bored share what kind of power plant and prop, RPM's it took for this great feat. Finally got an hour to play with and watched the full video 75Tique posted. I was amazed how long some of those footing runs were at 40-50 MPH. The feet must have been cooking, and the rough water you guys plowed through. Very Impressive. ------------- |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-16-2023 at 10:54pm
That’s not gonna happen, that’s like Kyle Busch asking Penske for their motor specs.
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MrMcD wrote:Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-17-2023 at 12:45am
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In the early days NASCAR allowed Big Blocks, I know 427’s were used and ran 7,000 RPM for hours in those races. Not sure if 454’s ever ran before big blocks were banned. I am thinking you want an engine that is comfortable running 5,500 RPM for extended periods. Maybe an old school 427 would offer that reliable RPM you need. Shorter stroke, less internal stress and still plenty of power to accelerate. Just keep it a secret if you go that way! Swap an old 396 crankshaft into the 454 block and you are back in business with a 427. OK, I give up.
PS: There is a GM Marine Supercharged LS engine that was overheated with 30 hours on it for sale near me. They are asking $10,000 complete. I think those have 565 HP, that would work. My son was trying to convince me to buy it and fix it. I have done several LS engines but did not want to gamble 10K. If the insurance company replaced rather than repair it I imagine they really cooked it. ------------- |