RWP
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Printed Date: May-04-2024 at 5:47am
Topic: RWP
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Subject: RWP
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 7:43pm
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This thread may bit a bit long but hey, it's winter here and not much else to read. While doing a normal RR on a rwp I noticed the housing was cracked. It broke completely when I was taking it apart. Having the proper equipment and raw stock on hand I decided to make a new housing. Following are pics of the re manufacture process. This is the broken housing  Stock in lathe  Hole being drilled and outside shape being cut  On the mill now and putting in hole pattern and reliefs  Finished part ready to assemble  ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
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Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 7:49pm
Shaft assembly installed into the new housing More of assembled housing  Back side  Really was not too big of a chore. Turned out good and assembled with all new internals. Hope you enjoyed. Duane  ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: swilliams
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 8:04pm
| Nice! And those Sherwood pumps are not inexpensive. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 8:24pm
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Hi Duane I've been sitting here for half an hour trying to think of something witty to say about this, but "I got nuthin" You're just a magician with metal KenO |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 8:31pm
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Impressive work there Duane  ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 8:35pm
Steve, Things like this happen when you're a retired tool and die maker with the time and the equipment. Cost doesn't factor into the project t!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
swilliams wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-04-2017 at 8:36pm
Ken, I too am at a loss for anything to say! Duane, Great job!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:34am
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Tool and die work is fading art form. One that I appreciate. Nicely done sir!!!! ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:43am
| Nice work! I very much appreciate people that can and will do projects like this. Keep posting these long posts ! |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 6:16am
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....Ummmmmmmmmmmm......   ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 9:32am
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Very nice ------------- '05 206 Limited '88 BFN |
Posted By: JD ski
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 10:23am
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Great work and a true improvement over the stock part. It never hurts to have beautiful billet parts in a motor compartment. ------------- JD ski, slicing, dicing, and shredding since 1981 1999 Air Nautique, GT40 Pro Boss, Trail Rite trailer 1975 Century Resorter |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 11:01am
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Duane - Thanks for posting pictures of the process. I'm envious over your knowledge & equipment. What material did you make the part from? 304? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 11:49am
Chris, Did not use 304 which is a S/S grade. This part was machined from a piece aluminum that I had on hand. Undecided whether I will anodize it or not. I have NO plans to ever use the boat in salt water and plan to drain the engine after each outing. I have pet cocks on every drain plug hole. Thanks to you and all others who have complimented me. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 11:56am
Chris, You are so correct about the trade being a fading art. More people should pursue Apprenticeships in the Trades than chasing after "non sale-able" degrees. Affordable college tuition should include affordable trade school tuition. Most trades are very high paying positions. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:08pm
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I can't even get the pulley out of my water pump. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:21pm
I know what you mean. I had to chuck mine up in the lathe and cut the hub out of the pulley and then make a new hub with a set screw and weld it back into the pulley. I first put the pulley in my hydraulic press and exerted 12 tons of pressure with heat and had no luck. P**s poor design. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: RVR-BTR
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:24pm
Duane, I wouldn't worry about anodizing. And Ditto all the glowing praise on the lathe work. Honest work, and a lost art form. ------------- C.J. In St. Louis 1974 Correct Craft Martinique 18 1967 Chris Craft Commander 27 |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 12:30pm
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Keep doing stuff like this Duane and we are going to be forced to kick you out of the back yard hack hobbyist club ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 4:44pm
HaHa, that's been high on my priority list!!  Finished up the pump today. As previously stated, I had to bore out the hub on the pulley and install a new one Pulley with new hub installed, now with a set screw. (old system was pressed on)  Opposite side of pulley.  Finished item ready to be installed on engine.   ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 6:34pm
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that looks awesome. I had to put a new pump in when I bought my boat..I know the old Sherwoods aren't cheap. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 6:39pm
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Nice Work ! Can you make the front flag holder (staff) that goes in the light for the early mustangs? ------------- 1989 Teal Ski Nautique 1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 6:59pm
Got a sketch or picture.?? Got a lot on my plate now but sounds interesting, especially if they went on Mustangs as late as mine. 1978 ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 8:00pm
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Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 8:26pm
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Very cool. Old guys rock.. "yeah my bearing housing is busted.. no big deal.. I think I have a chunk of 4" billet kicking around.. Ill just chuck that bitch up in the lathe and burn a new one.. See? easy!" It is gonna suck when we die. nobody can fix a flipp'n toaster anymore. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-05-2017 at 9:30pm
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Why fix when you can buy new? Kidding of course. Nice job! |
Posted By: LeftFieldEngineering
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 7:44am
| Vary nice. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-09-2017 at 8:15pm
| That's killer Duane. Making Sherwood engineers look like losers. |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-09-2017 at 9:49pm
Thanks so much for everybody's comments. Just took off my Jabsco plastic bodied pump and going to redesign it and reproduce it as it has 2 cracks in it.. Will use it for a backup or let someone else use it. Pictures to follow. Thanks again, Duane ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: swilliams
Date Posted: January-09-2017 at 10:08pm
| Duane, ScottZ is looking for a plastic bodied Palmer (Thermo-Electron) pump. A pic of it is in the parts wanted section. |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 6:18am
The one I'm going to reproduce has a different inlet/outlet configuration. Granted, I could make it like his but it would not be an accurate reproduction for his restoration project. To accurately reproduce his like the original would be cost prohibitive. I would imagine that his will still pump satisfactorily the way it is. I will post pics along the build process. My original pump  ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 6:39am
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Duane, I've been meaning to ask about the equipment you have since the bearing housing you made does have some interesting machining on it where the hub meets the flange. Do you have the luxury of any CNC or did you just make it the old fashioned way on the Bridgeport with a rotary indexing table and hand cranking the X & Y? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 6:47am
Pete, No luxury here. Having operated CNC equipment for years and being a programmer also sure spoiled me at Rolls Royce but I do it all old school My shop has no CNC stuff. Having a rotary phase converter to make 3 phase power limits my choices I am told. Still I have 240/480 volts 3 phase generated. Digital readouts are as modern as I get. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 7:11am
You sure are old school with the rotary!! VFD's are the way to go these days. I've got them on several pieces of my woodworking equipment. The added features are lower power consumption than a rotary, very clean power, programmable acel & decel and what really comes in handy is the variable speed. If you add any equipment, I sure would recommend a VFD!------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 6:24pm
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Got started on the Jabsco pump today. The main body is done with the exception of making and installing the hose barbs and o-ring grooves. Starting out with rough stock  Main body machined   You can see the "Cam" that is machined into the housing In this shot the impeller would turn clockwise and take the water in the left side, over the top and out the right side.   ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: Fabcon
Date Posted: January-10-2017 at 11:36pm
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------------- 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out) |
Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: January-24-2017 at 7:54pm
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Nice work Duane! Very impressive. -Brad ------------- Former: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:29pm
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Back on the RWP project again. The Sherwood reproduction pump is finished so I decided to finish this one also. Set up in the lathe and cut the o-ring groove after grinding a tool for it. .   o-ring installed in pump body  Assembled body with cover.  Need to counter sink for some flat head screws and then turn up the 1/8" brass wear plates that will go on each side of the pump housing for the impeller to ride against. They will resist wear a lot better than the aluminum parts. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 7:21pm
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Duane, Once again, nice work! And you even go top shelf with a silicone O ring!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 7:37pm
Thanks to everyone for the nice words. Everyone has a gift in life. Mine happens to be making shavings. Thanks, Duane  ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 7:51pm
You make it look easy,maybe we will have to see if we can talk you into making some of these-- ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 8:21pm
Plain or engraved????? edit: I have one spare now ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 8:36pm
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Duane, I have a feelin Gary wants the complete pump and not just the cover! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 8:56pm
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No just the cover,it's the only part that has shown wear for some reason. I have a new wear plate for the opposite side but the old one is in great shape. Maybe it's preloaded against the crank and needs to be spaced out more? I already have two washers under the standoffs. I need to see if the rubber drive star is being crushed ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 9:31pm
Gary, Without that butt set pulling your pants down anymore, you should have plenty of time to make the cover!  Get a .small piece of 125" bronze from McMaster and go at it!------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 9:56pm
Send me your old one and I'll reface it. I can also send you mine if you need it also. PM me with info if interested. Duane ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 10:56pm
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The only thing I do down here is work on my tan Pete. Plus I don't have much in the way of tools either. We don't keep anything here that we'd miss if it all blew away. Duane thanks for the offer I'll get ahold of you in the spring,I'm sure there are several others here with HM's who might need them too. This one is beyond resurfacing,the PO ran it for as long as they owned the boat,20 years. See the faint ring just below Costa Mesa? That is the back side of one of the grooves coming thru from the other side ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 10:13am
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Stuff like this is absolutely amazing. Makes me wish I got into the tool and die business. Nice work Duane. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 10:29am
 Gary, Trust me on this one, it is reparable. If it is going on a restoration then it is worth saving. Duane------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |