Which boat should I buy?
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Topic: Which boat should I buy?
Posted By: dmudave
Subject: Which boat should I buy?
Date Posted: June-13-2016 at 11:08am
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First time boat owner here. I am looking for a nice entry level boat that won't break the bank. I have done a lot of skiing behind various other boats. I love the Ski Nautique's that I have seen. I like that the brand holds its value. So... Striking a balance between price, reliability, and value. Which of these will hold its value more? These are located some distance away. One is out of state. My budget would be comfortable between $10,000 — $15,000. Really comfortable at the lower end. Which would you buy? 1994 closed bow ski Nautique with a PCM carbureted 351ci. It has the protec ignition which I am not sure if it has been replaced yet. 500 hours. Looks to be in decent condition. No obvious seat tears etc. Asking $10,000. 1996 closed bow Ski Nautique with 351 PMC, 530 Hrs. Stored indoors/or on covered shorestation during season. Looks pretty spotless. Asking $14,000. 1999 Ski Nautique Python 502 EFI engine. 575 hours. Recently replaced interior seating. Looks nice. Asking $18,500. Also, out of state so would need to retitle and pay more fees etc. The others I could simply hitch up and transfer registration for $5. What do you think? What are the pros and cons? What should I be looking for? Thanks in advance. |
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Posted By: NGP
Date Posted: June-13-2016 at 2:23pm
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Welcome to the site! I believe you've found the right place. The 99 no doubt. Who doesn't like a big block right? In all seriousness none of them sound bad to me it would be about condition. There's a thread In the forum about the protec swap that would pertain to the 94 if I'm not mistaken. Doesn't look all that difficult and I believe the kit to swap is around $600.00. From what your post said I'd look hard at the 96 sounds nice. All three have composite stringers which is a good thing. There are a whole lot more very knowledgable and experienced members than myself on here that I'm sure will chime in to help you out. I hope this made some sense and maybe a bit of help. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: June-13-2016 at 2:33pm
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They all sound interesting, which motor exactly does the 96' have?? The 99' should have the best slalom wake however the weight of the Python may trump that out. If Barefoot is high on your list the 502 will be best at pulling that, possibly even more efficient as the 351's will be pushing WOT at BF speeds. On the 94' do you see a conventional distributor w/cap & wires? If not Pro-tec still there, $500 min when (not if) it goes. The 96' prob sounds like the best turn key ski ready purchase, new interior can easily run north of $3k, and that's already done on the 96'. Personally prefer something a little more unique so that would put the Python high on my list. Good Luck ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-13-2016 at 11:37pm
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Thanks for the input. The new interior is actually in the 1999 python. I am really starting to think seriously about that one. Is there anything I should be considering? Are the engine parts easy enough to find? It should be a fun weekend. I will let you know what I decide. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 12:08am
| No question in my mind but it's yours that matters here. Is snag that Python and not lose a moment in the decision. Those engines are rare and cool. Just keep em topped up with oil. Hope you get it! |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 10:36am
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1999 Python is cool and not common. Sounds awesome! Interior already done, huge $ savings for you there. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 11:04am
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My rub on a newer boat that needs a complete interior is why?? If a boat of that age was cared for properly the interior shouldn't need replaced, so my first assumption is it wasn't. If the interior was abused was the proper maintenance performed or was that neglected also??? Just some food for thought. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 11:15am
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For whatever reason you guys seem to pay more in the midwest. I wouldn't pay that much for any of those three boats here in CA.. 99 hull far and away a favorite. Having a hard time in my mind deciding if the Python is a plus or a minus. I think you are going to need to drive and preferably ski either the 94/99, the 96/99, or all three. Very different boats in my mind. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 11:35am
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python is definitely a cool boat. I have one. It has the TSC1 in it, but it's guessed to have ~300 lbs extra. Quinner often looks past this as that's roughly the weight of his gf's, and rumor has it that they sit on the motorbox while he motorboats. the python engine is known for burning oil, so always keep some extra lying around and check it to be on the save side. The dual exhaust is known to cause some platform bracket erosion, leading to rattling. Check that out and ask the PO what's been done to fix/remedy that -- otherwise you'll likely hear it during a test drive and have to get a new set. On the plus side, it's a beast out of the hole, top end, and you won't be disappointed. I'm very happy with my purchase, ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 12:02pm
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On the 94, don't forget to swap the pro tec ignition out you also have to swap the TBI out to a carb. My vote is for the 94 or the 96 if you could get the 96 lower. Phenomenal boats and solid power plants that parts are widely available, ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: RammerJammer
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 12:31pm
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There's a lot of negative press out there about Pro-Tec ignition but mine is over 1000 hours and still runs perfectly. Don't let them scare you too much. Of course, now that I've said that, mine will probably crap the bed this weekend. ------------- 1991 Nautique Excel, PCM 351, Pro-Tec ignition |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 12:39pm
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What are your needs? Are you into slalom, footing, wakeboarding or just want a decent ski boat for what ever? The Python would be sick but the one I think you are eyeing up seems to be in less than perfect shape (hard to tell by photos) but I see vinyl piping tears, rub marks on hull (maybe just decals) but doesn't look like it was well cared for not to mention it might not have a trailer! As stated by Paul, If a boat with only a few hundred hours needs anything... probably not well cared for! And yes, it is summer, all of these asking prices are high. Obviously I am bias but check this one (not sure where you live): http://www.onlyinboards.com/1999-Ski-Nautique-for-sale-Grass-Lake-Michigan-57142.aspx" rel="nofollow - 1999 |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 12:51pm
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Thanks for all the replies. I used to slalom ski a good bit, but I have been out of the game for about 10 years. I am 35. I didn't ever get proficient at footing. I am looking for a nice reliable boat to take around on the Sandusky Bay, teach the kids to ski, and do some skiing myself. I also plan to tow it to a lake in Maryland I frequent a few times each summer. Going fast is not a big need.... But it is always fun to get moving every once in a while. Is that your listing I presume? |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:14pm
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Don't let 35 steer you away from slalom skiing or even barefooting at that. Most of us over 40 guys are still swerving and almost as many are footin. There are a few who still wakeboard around here but not too many from the many minis and gatherings that I've been to. The Ambassador of Barefooting George 'Banana' Blair started Footin at 46 and did so till he was 92 so you're never too late to learn. Good to hear your wanting to get the kids up on skis, etc. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:21pm
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I heard a rumor that the Pythons could break the drive shafts due to the torque. That would not stop me, but could be a maintenance item. It could sink the boat depending on were and when it breaks. At some point I believe Correct Craft went to a larger dia drive shaft. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:25pm
No, I am not selling lol... or I would be one of the people asking 20k for a TSC hoping no one calls! And 35 is young! Swerve it up! but if not in course, maybe a sport or something with a little more freeboard/V to deal with ERIE! You say Maryland... I too frequent that lake... |
dmudave wrote:Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:29pm
| Awesome. I grew up spending my summers on Rock Lodge Rd. Deep Creek Lake. |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:39pm
Donald -- I haven't heard that rumor. Chances are that it's more common for Joe to break his 1" shaft than me breaking my 1 1/8" shaft. That gives them a different prop selection though. I think I have 3 or 4 that I got fairly cheaply as they came some of the newer boats. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 1:52pm
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Woah Woah lets not bring my shaft into it, Donald apparently doesn't realize that the boat in question in this thread had a larger shaft from the factory and any rumors he has heard about small shafts are not applicable in this case. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 2:21pm
exactly. the python comes with a 1 1/8" shaft, which is the correct size for the engine IMO ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 2:55pm
+1. If I were running in the bay or Erie i'd be looking for a deep-v...southwind...bfn... ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 2:59pm
I have owned my 99 Super Sport with a 502 for 5 years now and I have never had much trouble finding parts. Per Zach at N3 they share a lot of parts with the 454. Between SkiDim, NautiqueParts or N3 I have always been able to find the parts that I have needed. Good luck with your search. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 3:35pm
That is a sweet spot for kids to swim back in Cherry Cove... Python would be cool... but GT40 has been good to us and parts aren't a problem not that I've really needed any. If you want a test ride and are at lake, hauler at me. My Dad has a sailboat on Erie and I've been tempted to run the SN in the bay when no wind but haven't yet. Just never seems like a good idea... of course DCL on weekends isn't much better anymore! |
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 9:02pm
| x2 on the GT-40. Lots of helpful info out there, too. Don't rule out the Sport Nautique, fits right into your price range and still a good ski wake with a good bit more room. Either way, be patient, there are always some very nice low hour, Ski and Sport Nautiques in your price range. Just keep your eyes open! |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 10:53pm
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So something more like this... https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/5611905245.html OR this. https://jxn.craigslist.org/boa/5553720902.html |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-14-2016 at 11:40pm
| Detroit Python is a cool Super Sport but no ski boat. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:06am
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Before I bought mine Pete I was going to go look at a 2000 in Orlando. It was green with the white swoosh. I thought it would complement the HM in the Mustang. I think if it had been blue it would now be living in Illinois. Talked it over with TRBenj,he told me due to the way the engine sits in the Super Sports that with the 502 there is no room for the muffler. Well as you know I already have a loud one. A second one that may even be louder was not in the cards. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:09am
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I am now reading old threads about how loud the python is. Vibrations. No muffler. Sounds cool.... But I am not sure my family will appreciate it that much. I guess it is time to get to test driving. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:18am
Did alot of skiing on that water for many a year with the WSWSC. We had a cottage in Bayview. Where on the Bay are you? john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:18am
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I kind of made the same decision Gary. When looking for my boat 5 years ago I test drove a '99 Sport with python, really a nice boat and I think a decent value at the time. Loved the power and sound. But, for family use and my slalom use I opted to go with a GT-40 for the quieter ride and less weight for a better wake. I've never regretted that decision. So why would I recommend a python to someone else? They are just cool drivetrains, and I have to think in a Ski rather than Sport the slalom wake would still be excellent. I have the '63 which is loud, and my jet boat is loud, so like you I don't need another loud boat! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:24am
| John, I live in Huron Ohio. I will likely keep the boat at a Marina near first Street in Sandusky. I envision sking in the small Bay behind the Cedar point causeway. That looks like a stretch of water well protected from Lake Erie. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:33am
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small world....passed thru Huron countless friday nights before rt 2 was extended thru outside of town. Used to buy the very best sweet corn anywhere in Huron. Sunday night traffic jams in town...LOL. G Continue on rt 2 until you get to the Bayview exit. Head towards the Bay. Turn left when the road ends....should be a marina with a ramp..cant remember the name. You can ski between the railroad bridge and the old rt 2 bridge. Or continue on west under the high level rt 2 bridge and turn south. good skiing along there..west of the bridge. lots of good memories skiing up there. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:36am
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oh yeah..forgot to weight in... go get the Python and never look back. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:38am
I was referring to the V Drive Super Sports. I believe the Direct Drive boats have mufflers. Would be worth a test drive though. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 1:59am
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Dual exhaust, I think some sort of baffles or small mufflers. Definitely not straight pipe loud but significantly louder than a GT-40. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 8:06am
| My wife calls the GT 40 the electric boat. Our first boat was incredibly loud and a lot less powerful. |
Posted By: Russman
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:03am
Good spot - be careful of water depths through there as the bottom terrain changes alot as you are around the bridges. Wondering how no one had you place a pic of the boat on this thread yet!!! ------------- 1989 2001 SN / Prior 1978 Cobalt 18 |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:10am
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Funny... Here is the link to the three I will try to compare this weekend. No one go get it out from under me please. 1999 Python - https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/5631714124.html 1997 with GT-40 - https://annarbor.craigslist.org/boa/5607212696.html 1996 with 351 Pmc - https://toledo.craigslist.org/boa/5625624463.html |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:15am
Is the python gone? ad was deleted ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:24am
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Huh...... Crazy. That was deleted within the last 10 minutes. I have a visit all set up with the guy first thing Saturday morning. Maybe he is confident that I will love it. I did tell him that I would come ready to buy as long as the test drive went well. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:28am
| Looks like you're the buyer! Keep us posted! That boat is SWEEEEEEET! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:41am
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Was that the one with the spare sitting in a funny place on the trailer? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:44am
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I would call to see if you still have an appointment Saturday, I have a feeling someone already walked in with a fist full of cash. The '97 for $13,950 would be my choice, he already reduced once shows a motivated seller could possibly do better than that price if you flash the green. I do like the slant backs more than the bubble backs, but I prefer the earth tone colors. |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 11:55am
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I thought for sure you were looking at this one: http://www.onlyinboards.com/1999-SKI-NAUTIQUE-PYTHON-430HP-for-sale-Lexington-Kentucky-57300.aspx" rel="nofollow - Python Do be patient! Keep in mind in fall you can knock at least 15% of asking if you already have access to a boat. Good luck and have fun. As you can probably sense, we are peoples who love to buy/shop for boats! |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 12:14pm
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I just got a call from the seller. He and his wife had a heart to heart and they decided to keep the boat. It is "a special boat." Dang. Time to get a better deal now. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: June-15-2016 at 12:17pm
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Might be the same boat, silver spray is in michigan and central ky inboards is a broker Agree with Paul, bet it sold ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: June-16-2016 at 3:42pm
At first I thought it was strange he didn't fix the transom sticker and then I realized he probably made it "Boa" on purpose as a play on the Python snake theme haha. The purple piping is a nice touch too.   ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-17-2016 at 1:00am
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OK... Final 3. http://www.onlyinboards.com/1999-Ski-Nautique-for-sale-Grass-Lake-Michigan-57142.aspx" rel="nofollow - 1999 https://annarbor.craigslist.org/boa/5607212696.html" rel="nofollow - 1997 https://toledo.craigslist.org/boa/5625624463.html" rel="nofollow - 1996 Thanks AAM196 for pointing me toward the 1999. I test the 1996 tomorrow and the other 2 Saturday morning. Any last minute thoughts or advice? You folks have been extremely helpful. Thanks. |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-17-2016 at 1:28am
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And one to grow on.... https://toledo.craigslist.org/boa/5639396681.html" rel="nofollow - Another 1997 Strangely in the exact town as the 1996. Same colors as the other 2. Some pictures look white.... Some look cream. I guess I will see in person. |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-17-2016 at 1:57am
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Also.... Last question... But likely the most important.... 3 of these boats have the cream color scheme... What is everyone's thoughts on the cream boat? I can't decide if I like it. Deal breaker? The cream models have the desired hull, engine, lower hours.... |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: June-17-2016 at 9:12am
It's personal preference. I personally prefer white but would choose the better boat/deal rather then the color. Not sure if it's been said but don't discount the trailer. A new trailer will cost 4k or more and used ones in good condition are hard to find. I picked up my 95 sport in the fall without a trailer for 7k, got a used trailer for 600 but just didn't like having to deal with fixing up the trailer, so ended up spending just under 4k for a new single axle. Things like covers, Bimini's and other equipment can make a big difference in the final cost of getting the boat setup so also factors these in when comparing deals. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: June-17-2016 at 9:23am
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I don't care much for the cream, too geezer looking for me. However if you're very anal in cleaning and details like myself, cream will hide much much more than white, especially on the interior. All 3 of the boats you've listed seem high price according to my wallet..... Don't get in a hurry.... This is not the season to buy a boat. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 12:20am
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Not a bad way to spend $10k. http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/classified-group-buy-section/boats-for-sale-by-owner/490547-1994-ski-nautique-for-sale" rel="nofollow - 94 Ski |
Posted By: JB2016
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 6:28am
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Any thoughts? http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/boa/5630013418.html |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 8:31am
Todd, I happen to like the cream colors!!   ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 9:12am
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Well.... I touched base with the Python owner again. He may consider selling for full asking price. New interior. Red and white boat. $18,995. Pricey. Worth it? |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 10:32am
Point proven ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 10:43am
Umm Dave, There's your cue! |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 10:47am
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The price is right. Would the extra few thousand be worth the 1997 hull and gt-40? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 11:19am
Only you can decide this. Maybe before committing you should drive them and see since you are a first time owner. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 11:57am
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I agree, definitely test drive 3 or more. Looking at a few of them, thinking it over between test drives, and giving the folks here a chance to give you feedback will help you make a decision you will be happy with for years to come. I would be leery if he says you must pay full price before you have even seen it. For what it sounds like you are going to be using it for, you could be very happy with the '94. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 12:01pm
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We are putting the 1997 maroon one in the water right now. Test drove one yesterday. Will get I the python and 1994 today as well. Thanks for the help. |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 12:39pm
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1997 clean maroon and cream color. Trailer in good shape. Tires and bearing seemed in good shape. No major wood rot. Idles well. Seemed fast on the throttle. Responsive. The guy did say he changed to oil... There was clean oil sloshing around the bottom of the boat under the engine compartment. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Bimini top. Interior very clean. $13,000 final answer. Off to the next. |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 1:11pm
Maybe he spilled a little while changing it?  Definitely something to look at more closely. Could you wipe it up and see if it returns?------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 3:05pm
| Wow..... Spotless red Python. Near mint condition. Off to purple 1994. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 3:24pm
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You had better be taking pictures of your adventure for us ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 4:18pm
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Would anyone here even consider 1992? The Python owner had a nice one in his barn. $8000. 1000 hours. I worry about the wood. |
Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 4:24pm
| I had a 97 with the GT-40. It was a great boat, zero problems. I personally wouldn't consider anything older than a 97 SN if you are serious about slalom. Life is short don't compromise. The GT-40 has all the power you'll need. |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 5:09pm
The 92's were made so solid it'll be years before they give structural problems given it wasnt beat to hell. $8k is a lil high in my opinion. The 97+ boats are serious slalom machines but the 90-96's aren't far behind. I'm serious about slalom but I'll never in my lifetime out ski my 93. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 5:39pm
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My point being that with the 97's being so inexpensive now why settle for less. I ski behind a couple of 200's and have a hard time telling the difference between my current 04 196 as far as the wake. The 97's have a much better wake than the 93-96. Having a great wake is important to me. The 92-94 Mastercrafts also had great wakes although there was spray at 35 off. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 9:41pm
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Nothing wrong with a 92 if its been well cared for. 93 and newer can have plenty of problems as well. Just nice to know that on a 93 or newer, rotten stringers should not be one of the problems. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-18-2016 at 10:51pm
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The Detroit '99 Python is back on the market. Better call fast. I saw the seller is on Planet Nautique reduced the price to $22k. Carpe Diem. http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/showpost.php?p=488193 |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 12:21pm
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Since it seems you are tempted to push your budget for the python, be sure and check out the two 2002 196's listed on ski-it-again. Listing price off 21 and 20K. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=37553" rel="nofollow - 2002 196 21K http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=37503" rel="nofollow - 2002 196 20K |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 12:50pm
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You know, I have to agree with Richard. As much as I said "get the python, it's cool" I feel like before spending anywhere in the high teens to 20 for a late '90's Ski I'd move on to a 196. I'm no ski wake expert but I think the 196's will stand the test of time as one of the best slalom wakes ever. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 1:20pm
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Have you test drove the 94 yet? I mean under 10k asking and looked very well cared for. Unless you are in the slalom course on a regular basis the wake difference between the 1994 and 2004 is negligible... They Python would be cool to own but I can't see spending 7K more for it... maybe pick up 5mph on the top end. |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 1:57pm
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Well it has been 12-14 hours of driving in the past two days. I came to a decision. I will post pictures and review the boats I saw. Friday: Boat #1... http://toledo.craigslist.org/boa/5625624463.html" rel="nofollow - 1996 Ski Nautique I arrived and the boat was parked under a tree. Some dirt on the cover. To be expected. The trailer showed signs of wear and the plywood was rotten throughout. The boat appeared structurally sound but was cosmetically in bad shape. Various cuts on interior. Cigarette butts in cup holder. Generally needed a good detail. Out on the water it performed well. Based on the appearance I am not sure engine maintenance was a priority. At $14,000 asking. Passed.   
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Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 2:06pm
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Friday Boat # 2: http://toledo.craigslist.org/boa/5639396681.html" rel="nofollow - 2007 Ski Nautique I met with the owner of this boat. I didn't test drive. He seemed very knowledgeable. Nice guy. He maintain the motor himself and it was spotless. The interior had some cracking along the rear bench. Trailer was in good shape. A nice boat. I was going to see its twin in the morning. I figured I could test drive it later if I needed to. All in all a good looking boat. I have to admit that the cream color was throwing me off a little. How was it put? Geezerly. He wanted $13,000.  
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Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 2:17pm
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Saturday Morning: Boat #3: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/boa/5607212696.html" rel="nofollow - The Twin: Geezerly 1997 Ski Nautique This boat is being sold by a nice gentleman named Jim. Jim flips boats. He had purchased that boat 3 months back. Changed to oil. Tuned it up. Cleaned it up. He said he had $12,500 in the boat. He wanted $13,000. It seemed like a solid boat. No major interior problems. Trailer had a little wood rot but clean and the tires looked good. Test drive was flawless. The only things that scared me a little... there was oil in the sump well. Reportedly from changing the filter that week. I did not meet the previous owner and there is know way to know how the boat was treated before it was cleaned up. Also... geezer cream. All in all... this was my 2nd place realistic option for the trip.   
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Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 2:29pm
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Boat #4: http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/5631733745.html" rel="nofollow - 1994 Ski Nautique I was really excited to see this one. I actually drive 2 hours out of the way. If it was as clean as reported I figured I would be getting this and counting my remaining money all the way home. In the end... went to the dock. The boat was fairly clean... except for where the "chipmunks got into it" a few years back. They had chewed small holes all through the interior. The rubber pad at the top of the engine compartment was nearly chewed away. They had chewed the blower which no longer worked. I was assured that this was no big deal and the owner showed me how he opened and closed the engine cover to fan the fumes before he started the boat. The trailer was parked in the back yard. The wheel wells rusted through. Almost no wood left from all the rot............ I am not confident you will make it home on that trailer. Needless to say... I was a little disappointed. Owner wants $9,500. In the boats defense... it ran well during the test. Note the small chew holes by the throttle... these could be found throughout.  
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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 2:40pm
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Probalbly 3K for a good upholstery job, and whatever you have to spend on a trailer. Not a good deal IMO. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 2:41pm
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Boat # 5: 1999 Python So I managed to talk the owner into reconsidering and he said that he was firm at $18,500. I explained that this is at the top of my range and told him that I am not sure I would reach that high. He invited me out to take a look anyway. I figured that since I had pretty much seen most of the state of Michigan at this point, I may as well see the rest. So... The owner has a great setup. Covered boat on a nice lift. He has a large garage across the street which houses boats, trailers, etc. The boat is always out of the water and elements unless being driven. Just meeting with the owner and seeing his property you could tell he was meticulous about caring for his things. This boat was spotless. New Interior. Near mint condition. If anyone is in the market for a Python.... this is the one! Spotless. Truly. We drove it out on the lake. The engine was notably louder at idle with those great deep rattly tones usually heard out of much larger boats. The drive was as fast and powerful as advertised. As amazing as this boat is... I decided that for the price... it is not the practical choice for my little family.    
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Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 3:02pm
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Boat #6: 1992 Ski The owner of the Python happened to tell me that he had two Nautiques. His plan was to sell the Python and use his 1992 Ski Nautique until he decided on something different. 1992....... wood stringer.... carberated engine.... Pro-tec ignition..... Bad bad bad... Then he took me into his garage to have a look. This boat had been well cared for. Spotless interior. Clean engine. His meticulous care had been used for his old boat as well. He had a marina check the wood in the boat several year back without signs of wear or rot. The boat had not seen the elements since. Floor seemed solid. No soft spots. The trailer was clean. No wood rot. Fairly new tires. The boat and trailer were in the best condition that I had seen other than the Python. He said that he could part with it for $8,000. We towed the boat to the local launch. It started right up. Didn't miss a beat on the test drive.... I didn't have time to count my money on the way home as this new boat owner was too focused and getting that trailer back safe and sound. Is the 1992 a mistake? Maybe... but the overall condition was impressive enough to go for it. Even if I resell in a few years I don't think it will lose that much value. Now I have money to put gas in the thing and properly maintain it. Thanks for all of the input and advise. I will let you know how it goes.      
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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 3:17pm
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Dave, congrats! You made a great decision, excellent value in that boat. Keep us posted on how it works for the family. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 3:24pm
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Seems like you made a good choice. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 4:42pm
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Excellent. Welcome to club "Slant Back". Don't let the Pro-Tech worry you. If it starts acting up, you simply yank it off and install a new High Energy Ignition from Davis Unified Ignition ( www.performancedistributors.com ) and you are set. JQ ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 6:17pm
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Nice... The python and 92 were by far nicest kept! You will not loose money if you choose to sell in next few years if you keep it up. I'll keep eye out on lake for it. |
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 6:32pm
| Great thread here, that 92 looks wonderful. My favorite part was the curve ball at the end. Guess it was meant to be! Congratulations. |
Posted By: samudj01
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 9:45pm
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Congrats...great looking boat! ------------- 78 Ski Tique, 72 Skier w/302's, 93 SN w/351 & 17 GS22 w/zr409 Previous - 99 Sport Nautique w/GT40 and 87 Martinique w/351 |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 9:56pm
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No mistake with that '92. It's a stud! ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: RammerJammer
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 10:44pm
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Welcome to the Pro-Tec Crew! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! ------------- 1991 Nautique Excel, PCM 351, Pro-Tec ignition |
Posted By: dip
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 10:50pm
| Beautiful boat that looks nearly new. And that photo with the kids is a perfect Father's Day post! |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: June-19-2016 at 11:56pm
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Congrats on the new boat! Looks awesome, enjoy! I can tell those kids are. For me that makes the expense & work well worth it. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Captain Nick
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 12:26am
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Sweet looking boat. I dig the graphics colors and the style of the 92 SN that you bought. In such mint condition as well. ------------- Live life to the fullest! |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 1:18am
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awesome... great thread..thanx for taking us along for the ride. now take that crew out on the Bay & make memories! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: TRIP
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 2:31am
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That boat looks mint, congrats! How many hours are on it? ------------- http://www.flyzone-cr.com" rel="nofollow - FlyZone Costa Rica Wakeboarding http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=8406&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1997 Super Sport |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 6:03am
| I think he said 1000 hours. Shows how indoor and covered storage makes a difference in condition. Owner care sure seems awesome. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 11:17am
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Welcome to the wood stringer club! Those stringers are just fine. The boy looks not happy? |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 11:24am
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I am not sure why some people think so highly of dealer maintained boats. A meticulous, knowledgeable owner reluctantly selling one of his boats is the jackpot for sure! I guessing when Dave rolled up on the guys property with everything in order dock/lift/roof/nice shop all tools away etc he knew these were going to be the two cleanest boats he would see on his journey by far! Obviously before the owner acquired that python, The owner had the 92 on lift under canopy when not buttoned up in his shop. If Dave bought that python there was no doubt the 92 would have been back out on the lift! |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 11:30am
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Posted By: dmudave
Date Posted: June-20-2016 at 11:38am
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It does have just over 1000 hours. Andrew is correct. I had seen enough boats already to recognize the great condition that these were it. I will hopefully catch you on the lake. I am debating towing it down for the weekend of the 4th.... But that place is a zoo that weekend. I may pass. |