Bass Nautique
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Printed Date: April-28-2024 at 5:54pm
Topic: Bass Nautique
Posted By: h9alyman
Subject: Bass Nautique
Date Posted: April-19-2015 at 11:12pm
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So...I officially entered the world of boating and Correct Craft Boating no less today. I was given a 1986 Bass Nautique, in a less then favorable condition. I hope i haven't bitten off more than i can chew, I have restored several cars in my day but this will be my first boat restoration. I will post some pics up as soon as i figure out how to. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a workshop manual or owners handbook for this vessel. I will need to completely rewire this boat and redo the livewell system and the trolling motor system. I suspect i will be here on a daily basis looking for help once i get going with the project, i am giving myself 12 months to get it ready. Thanks and wish me luck... |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-19-2015 at 11:22pm
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Jim, Welcome to CCfan and a CC Bass ownership. I don't feel you will find much as far as manuals go. The O/B manual is probably the only thing available in writing. What is hanging on the transom? Pictures would be great. Use the "post reply" rather than the "quick reply". Click on the tree icon with the up arrow. The box that comes up will allow you to browse your computer. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-19-2015 at 11:26pm
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THanks Peter....I take some pics tomorrow and get them up. The O/B is an Evinrude 115....currently lying on top of the boat...dont even know if it runs or not...but an engine is an engine to me, if it has compression i will get it going. |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: April-20-2015 at 11:19am
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What part of Florida Are you in? ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: April-20-2015 at 11:40am
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I'm not super familiar with these boats, but those old johnsons were not a favorite in the world of outboard engines. I owned one, same era but it was the v4 140hp. with the VRO pump. best thing you can ever do to that engine is bypass that VRO and mix the fuel in the tank. its very simple to do, and eliminates a HUGE failure point in those engines and will set your mind at ease while zipping across a lake at WOT. If the engine was pulled off and discarded onto the deck i would have to make one assumption, That someone was running across a lake and the VRO pump failed, leaned it out and melted the pistons. So before you spend any money you may want to get some compression numbers and take a good look inside those cyls if possible. also dont touch the idle adjustment because it is actually part of the timing circuit in those engines. I don't know what your investment or total endgame is with this boat but you may want to think about looking into re-power which will cover all of your engine wiring because usually O/B will come with a complete harness and controls minus steering. whenever i look at a boat with an O/B, the boat is what i look at last, the motor is where all the value lies. Downside will be initial cost, but the plus will be overall satisfaction and reliability. I believe i still have a factory manual for my johnson, If i can find it, it may be helpfull to you, i plan on never looking at another one of those motors for the rest of my career so its yours if i can find it. -Tony ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-20-2015 at 6:52pm
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Im at the Space Coast - Palm Bay.. Good info Tony...the previous owner told me it was running but i take that with a pinch of salt. I have a compression tester which i will check before spending a dime on it. If it looks like it has 120+ psi I will attempt to get it running. Thanks for the heads up regarding the VRO pump, i will bypass it if I decide to proceed with this O/B... I will keep you all updated. Project will start this weekend. |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: April-20-2015 at 8:25pm
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I lucked out when mine failed and it injected too much oil so the engine wasnt damaged. my alarm never went off either. and it worked at the time. There are miles of debates of people trusting these pumps and arguing that bypassing them is a mistake. And its true, when these pumps are working they work good, they cut back on the ratio at idle to keep from fouling and increase the ratio with rpm. I feel the engineers had all the best intentions but in the field it just didn't quite deliver when it came to reliability. so do what you feel is best, but from my experiance any failure point that can be eliminated, should be. I personally just think people get afraid of math and getting the ratio wrong. 50:1 is what is desired. If i remember you just unplug the wiring harness that goes to the pump in order to disable the warning alarm and lights in the tach. then i believe you just cut and plug the oil feed line airtight. the unit also encases the fuel pump so it stays on the engine. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-20-2015 at 10:07pm
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Thanks Tony.... I think i will err on the side of caution and premix myself |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 11:51am
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Definitely post up some pictures. ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 11:57am
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The other big thing I would be concerned about is structural. Again, not knowing how well this boat was taken care of, one of the first areas to check on a 30 year old outboard is the transom. These outboards are heavy, 400 lbs plus. You don't want to hang that on a suspect transom, where all the power is transferred from the engine to make the hull move. You can rebuild a transom, requires a lot of fiberglass work, but with the Bass Nautique, you would have to remove the top cap (the top of the boat) to be able to rebuild the transom. That is a pretty serious undertaking. Same goes for the stringers, you want to make sure those are solid as well, replacing those can also be done, but it also will be difficult, again, removal of the top cap is probably the best approach. Hopefully everything will be solid. ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 2:52pm
X2 bass nautique are cool  .------------- 1972 Mustang |
skutsch wrote:Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 6:41pm
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transom is toast.....needs to be rebuilt, i knew that going into the project though so no surprises. I started today removing the rub rail, gonna take the cap off this weekend so i can really check the structure. Will post some pics shortly.. |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 6:52pm
This is what i have gotten myself into       took a quick look underneath the deck today and from what i saw seems to look okay, except for where the gas tank sits.....a bit soft and flaky there... |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 6:57pm
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Will that is quite the project - Still for what ever reason, I have always liked these boats... Probably because its a correct craft. So is everything you got in the pictures or did you take some of the stuff out already? Seats are gone, SOmebody did some serious cutting on the stern port deck, I think there should be a vent hole there but I don't think it was that big... What is the plan? Full restoration or just get it back to something you can fish ? ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 7:07pm
If it's a correct craft it's beautiful  . I hope he does a full restoration, but it won't be easy. I hope to see this boat come to life. ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:03pm
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i hoping for a full restoration job.....thats why i gave myself 12 months to complete it.....i dont want to rush it. It has been hacked a bit but i can redo the fiberglass for that and yes, the seats are missing......and i've looked for them and cant find any anywhere, might end up having to make something from scratch. I will be taking lots of pictures and some video for youtube . Will post them as and when..... |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:04pm
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ohh.....as a side note, the trailer is the original correct craft too....so i have a matching pair...gonna paint it up in the same style as the boat |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:38pm
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Jim, I haven't had to do a metal flake gel myself but have seen several restorations and they do turn out great. The metal flake hides alot of the base gel imperfections! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:46pm
| I spent 10+ years fishing a SlingShot (exact same hull and appears to be same deck if iirc) and I remember rather basic flip seats readily still available. |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:46pm
| good tip....i got all the spray equipment at home (used to modify cars)....might need to get a larger tip though...not sure what sizes i have... |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:47pm
will the standard flip seats fir inside the scoop bases for the fixed seats ? |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 8:50pm
| Yeah I believe. When I get to a real computer I'll try to post the ones I mean. Gonna try to find pics too but bet my parents have them, surely I have pictures. I heard Ranger used the same hull also. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 9:07pm
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Ready for the restoration thread to begin, very cool. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 9:13pm
Thanks Todd Be good to get eyes on something that should fit.... |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 9:14pm
| Cant wait to get started on this project.......she's gonna be a beaut' when she's done..... |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 10:39pm
 Looking through the reference section from 1984, I see the Bass Nautique had a more "deluxe" style interior with built in seats rather the folding generic seats the Sling Shot had. The Sling Shot def had the folding seats at the consoles and at the casting decks just like the Bass Nautique shows for casting chairs. Maybe the two manufacturers had a standard and deluxe option? The folding chairs had "Sling Shot" screen printed on the backs so they were original and worked quite well bc at night we'd just fold them then cover with a garbage bag to keep morning dew off. The only difference I can see and remeber bt the two beside the seats is the Sling Shot consoles had a squared shape. http://correctcraftfan.com/reference/1984_brochure/index.asp?page=17" rel="nofollow - 1984 brochure |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 10:51pm
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you're right looks like i might have to fabricate the seats....doubtful i will find spare seats anywhere... 
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Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 11:08pm
Bass Nautique 2018 - In just three more years it will be new!  Great find - enjoy the journey!------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-21-2015 at 11:11pm
Does that mean he could sell it for $200k or trade it in for a G25? Gosh boats are to expensive these days  . ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 12:26am
my devious plan has been rumbled...... 
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Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 1:44am
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[QUOTE=Orlando76] Kind of off topic, but I remember someone had posted this pic before. From the 84 brochure, but they put a sneak peak of the new 85 2001 before it was released in the background.....cool idea and cool shot. I'm looking forward to following the progress of this as well. Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 7:19pm
Keep the bass nautique and make it into a a barefoot bass nautique. Put 3 big ol' outboard motors on it and just foot the world with it . I'm kidding, please don't do that. ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 10:33pm
| lol......that would scare the crap out of me....lol |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 10:52pm
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Justin,Google seven marine and check out their outboards------ ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 11:01pm
That's too much power...... parasailing anyone? ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 11:08pm
Ahh, young grasshopper, you have much to learn... There is no such thing as too much power, only too much use of power! Ahhhh, yes. ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-22-2015 at 11:15pm
Well I belive at some points there can be to much power. For example, a big ol' 502 python in a ski tique..... that's called over kill..... but it would be fun  ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: April-24-2015 at 4:38pm
I'll second that, oh wise one! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-24-2015 at 5:08pm
| SN pythons are definitely not overkill... I'd call it a "good start". |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-24-2015 at 5:59pm
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I always thought it would be fun, given infintie money, to outfit one of the older Ski Tique's or a wreck of a Gen 1 Ski Nautique with one of those Supercharged XS550's. Now that would be some fun... ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: April-24-2015 at 6:15pm
Speaking of over kill, tim your barefoot nautique..... can I have a ride? That's one fast boat! ------------- 1972 Mustang |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-25-2015 at 11:12am
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....and a GT-40 in a 63 classic is a crazy idea too but MAN what a fun boat to drive! I had a ProCraft FSN before I bought the 88' so I can appreciate a good fishin' boat but there were more times that I could think of that I REALLY need to be cutting up this glass on a ski then cutting it with a lure and some line. If I were gonna get back into fishing again I'd look for a Bass Nauti just for the coolness factor. Looking forward to seeing a Sishin' Boat restore. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: April-25-2015 at 11:19am
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Tim misread. A tique with a 502 might be overkill, but a SN with a 502 is a good start. And yeah the 63 classic is a fun drive/ride! Tim's bfn borders on overkill, until you go for a ride in it, then it's a life saver. LPSL :) ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: April-30-2015 at 6:52pm
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heres a link to my first video of my Bass Nautique......more to follow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hHoatUJLj8 ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-30-2015 at 7:17pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hHoatUJLj8" rel="nofollow - And here's a real link! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-30-2015 at 8:40pm
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%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.proboats.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?mfrcode=&catcode=&modelyear=2015&veh=428629 Something like this should make it the fastest boat on CCF. My friend up the road who has been racing outboards for +40 years claims they'll easily handle a 200 shot of nitrous incase you need a little more holeshot. |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: May-07-2015 at 10:54pm
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Video number 2, pulling the cap off.. it's a mess...  https://youtu.be/yyxZbtEpVME" rel="nofollow - link to video
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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 12:30am
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this is gonna be fun to watch.. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 1:18am
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I don't think I have ever seen a floor that bad. You definitely have your work cut out for you... Clearly it has been outside for quite some time. I wonder if it actually had filled up with water and was essentially submerged (in itself). That poor boat has had some serious neglect. On the port side stern, I would guess they cut out all the decking there to remove the fuel tank. I don't have any idea why a fuel tank would be so valueable, but it was apparently needed very badly. Can't wait to see what that motor holds. There are only about 4 million of those things produced, so you should be able to find used parts really cheap. Honestly if the compression is shot you might just look at finding a rebuilt power head, or even a used one. I think power heads can be found, if you look hard for $1000, readily available for $1500, so maybe even cheaper. Great stuff so far! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 4:07am
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Oh my.... ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 8:19am
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Definitely doesn't look like typical cc construction... I wonder if someone else built it or them? Cool project! |
Posted By: dangerwil
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 8:35am
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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 8:36am
For some reason I seem to recall these were a partnership/white label deal with another mfg. ICBW. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: ryanibanez88
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 9:19am
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Looks like allot of work but you will just appreciate it even more when you get it in the water good luck Jim ------------- Ryan 1997 Ski Nautique Midland Texas |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 9:32am
I've heard that about a few '80's model (Martinique/Riviera) that Regal actually built them. Maybe Rumor. Maybe it was the Bass. |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 10:00am
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I have always had a fascination with these Bass Nautique, I talked to Art about them, he indicated that they were indeed originally made from another manufacturer - a company called Logan's Run. The owner, as he was going out of business, came to Correct Craft and told them, he only trusted them to continue building the quality boats that he had built. So they bought a mold and then hired him as a consultant. As they started production and attended the first couple of boat shows, they found other manufactures with the same hull. Turns out the owner had told them the same story and sold them molds as well.. Needless to say his consulting services were no longer needed. EDIT: When sold as the Bass Nautique, they were indeed made by Correct Craft at the Correct Craft factory. So I would imagine because the hull is SO radically different, there was a variation in the "normal" manufacturing process. I do see some"tells" of Correct Craft manufacturing... ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: May-08-2015 at 1:01pm
| That is going to be a whale of a project! No pun intended! |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: May-09-2015 at 12:13am
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I'll feel much better once all the foam is out.......started on that project today.....only managed to scrape out 1 row between the stringers....Foam was drenched in water. I knew this was going to be a huge project but I am still happy with it, the glass and woodwork side of it doesn't bother me, just taking my time and doing it right. More pics and videos to come.... |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-09-2015 at 3:33pm
| A pick and a square shovel are you're friends. The flat side of the pick will remove large chunks of foam with little effort and the shovel is handy for scraping off that last half inch or so of foam left behind. |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: January-04-2016 at 10:59pm
Well.........7 months later and I am again able to work on the boat......Had to delay the whole project, work slowed down and so money got tight  .But, back on it again, stringers are out and the foam is gone (what a PIA that was......I found a machete worked wonders, slide it under the foam and pull out and up, huge chunks came out). Here's a link to what I have now.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjbupqfQiA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjbupqfQiA |
Posted By: h9alyman
Date Posted: January-13-2016 at 8:08pm
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and the rebuild finally starts.......made the transom and a bulkhead at the weekend.......hope to get them installed this coming weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWv5kCl8OnM" rel="nofollow - click for youtube video |
Posted By: Sear87
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 1:16am
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hgalyman, Your project is impressive... would love to see the finished project. I have a fully restored Bass Nautique and may be able to assist with any final parts, photos or info you might need. Most of the boat is in the original condition, including the instrument panels and wiring. |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 2:48pm
| http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/5798336855.html" rel="nofollow - Your boat's twin is for sale in Nashville |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 3:09pm
Too bad the seller has a spelling problem!! "85 bass nautic" ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 3:22pm
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It is hard work typing those 3 additional letters when you type 1 finger at a time. That or he is a product of some of our rural schools.
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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 4:34pm
How bout some pics? I have a soft heart for the Bass Nautique. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: Sear87
Date Posted: September-29-2016 at 4:58pm
| Pics are located on CorrectCraftFan.com in For Sale or Diaries section.... 1984 Bass Nautique. -- the blue one. |