1993 Open Bow
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Topic: 1993 Open Bow
Posted By: TommySki
Subject: 1993 Open Bow
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 5:45pm
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First time poster. Looking for a Nautique for the family primarily for skiing but also tubing and some footing. Weighing in at 6 ft 210lbs I like it between 39-42 mph on the water. I have a line on a 1993 open bow Nautique with a tower. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/4888439448.html It has a 351 PCM with 757 original hours on it. Looks clean and well cared for from what I can tell thus far. However what I don't know and what I call upon the experts here is the following: - Whats the top speed of this boat? Can I get 40-45mph comfortably out of this with a couple kids and maybe an adult in the boat? - Can I attach a barefoot boom to this boat? The current owner is not a footer and never attached a boom. I see that the tower mount looks to be directly behind the driver seat which makes me wonder if that would be in the line of the boom out the side. - Hows the ski wake behind this open bow boat? Is it better suited to boarding or is it good for slalom as well? Thanks for any info you can provide. Tom |
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:31pm
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That appear to only the 240hp engine. I don't think it will pull you barefoot with an average load to 39mph. Acme prop, that'll help. Hopefully it is the correct size for the application. The open bow configuration cramps the cockpit, a boom out the driver side, in an optimized position, will be tough but still doable. A straight boom out the passenger side is much simpler. It is a Ski Nautique, slalom wake is excellent, and time to throw away the tubes. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:32pm
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Oh man, no tubes! That's a ski nautique open bow. It will have a great ski wake and with enough weight, a decent wakeboarding wake. Plenty of power for barefooting- though the exact speed it will hold depends on whether it has the proboss (ho 351) at 285hp vs the standard 240hp 351w. The latter will still hold a guy your size at 40 and is only a head upgrade away from holding 43-44. Unloaded, expect 41-43 (240hp) or 45-47 (285hp). A boom will fit, though it will likely be tight on the stbd side on a snob. Side spray is not bad on this hull. It's worth noting that the SNOB had the same hull as the closed bow Ski Nautique, but a different deck with the dash moved back a bit to accommodate the open bow. This makes the cockpit a bit more cramped, and you lose the under bow storage. The open bow is a shallow playpen and has a walk over (not walk through). They didn't sell in great numbers and usually command a premium price- and this one is priced very high considering it's not in mint shape. Personally, I think a closed bow of the same vintage offers more useable space and storage, and would save you a bit of money (and would be easier to find a nice one). To really gain significant space, it might be worth considering a Sport Nautique, the 93-01 years were based on a lengthened version of this same hull and are very versatile boats- only forgoing a small concession in skiing and performance compares to the smaller Ski Nautique. Welcome (and ditch the tubes). 
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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:35pm
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:35pm
| HW is wrong on the speed, btw... My 90 SN (same hull) would pull my 195lbs 41mph when it had 240hp and an upgraded Acme prop like the one this '93 has. I don't see proboss decals on the shroud, but it may very well be so equipped... A closer inspection of the heads or engine model number (listed on the tag on the intake) would provide the necessary clues to be sure. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:42pm
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Thanks for the responses. I will refrain from sharing the "ditch the tubes" comments with my 5 year old daughter. Although I think she'll be ready to hit the skis this year. My 8 year old son however is ready to start footin'. The only real reason I want the open bow is some extra seating, however I'm not so sure I need it since we own lakeshore and could just as easily leave extras on the dock for the next run. I'm a bit torn between a more pure ski/footin boat and a larger family style with open bow and more room. I'm feeling selfish and would prefer a pure ski boat. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:44pm
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Owning lakefront and buying an open bow seems foolish. Which would you rather be? ------------- |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 6:46pm
| I like where your heads at. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:01pm
Tom, Are you sure you want a Nautique?  Welcome to CCfan. If you do go through with a purchase, make sure you post some pictures. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/4888439448.html" rel="nofollow - Here's you link to the boat I'm with Tim and HW on the open bow. Since you have lakefront property, leave the unneeded people on the dock. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
TommySki wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:06pm
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Tom, I suggest you get your daughter to take a http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=14181&KW=kids+on+water&PID=163962&title=get-the-kids-out-on-the-water#163962" rel="nofollow - look at this tread. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:12pm
Very high? Sheesh, Mr. "mystery-nonexistent-NWZ-deal-goggles" Benjamin! I don't think 11,5 for a decent all fiberglass boat (93) in good shape with a solid interior is too out of line. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:14pm
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My buddy had an open bow Malibu response, where you had to climb over like that. The bow essentially was where they stored stuff and where water was scooped up and entered the boat. I don't know if the Nautique's is more functional. I think I would prefer a Sport Nautique. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:31pm
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I don't think the SNOB is a good choice even if you want more seating... Assuming you're using the boat to ski. Who sits up front while there is a skier behind the boat? Sitting on the floor facing the skier is where extra passengers normally sit around here. A closed bow has more room for that scenario. We ski off the dock here... Closed bow all the way. Joel, do I need to keep sending you reasonably priced NWZ's? I wish it their values were higher but sub-10k for a clean 90-93 is absolutely the norm. Snobs are incrementally higher but 11.5k would be tip top dollar, and tha boat is not clean enough to warrant it IMHO. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 7:50pm
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Guys, I have to ask, what is a "A Missouri legal Monster ski mirror"? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 8:10pm
Although I do agree 11.5 is too high, it seems to be the norm right now. In fact, it seems to me 12k is the asking price right now for a NWZ in the southeast. Im finding the not bashful asking 15k. https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/4891735372.html" rel="nofollow - $4500 '92 https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/boa/4863270885.html" rel="nofollow - 10.2 '92 https://knoxville.craigslist.org/boa/4843396466.html" rel="nofollow - Super clean '94 14,750 https://greensboro.craigslist.org/boa/4875866930.html" rel="nofollow - '94 11.9 If still available in March I'm gonna consider it http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/boa/4894059404.html" rel="nofollow - '94 15,900!!! https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4837757613.html" rel="nofollow - 1990 gone from 12k to 10,5 https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4866954039.html" rel="nofollow - '91 12k |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 8:36pm
Tim is in some fantasy world with his pricing mindset. The best part will be when he goes to sell his '90 and gets lowballed by the artificial market he created with all his lowball NWZ posts and comments. "The offer seems really in line considering all I've read on this CCFAN website, sir" By Tim's criteria his boat is worth about 5K max. Also I do believe in a substantial premium for a '93+ over a 90-92 and I don't think that is unreasonable at all. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 8:39pm
| No I think all the prices are high. I agree with Tim, these should be sub 10k. Did Tim and I get accustomed to a bad economy? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-20-2015 at 8:41pm
Look at the prices of http://www.yamahaboats.com/series" rel="nofollow - these wonderful boats and then go and tell me the Nautiques your looking at are too high  then in 20 years see if any are still going so they could be sold  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 12:17pm
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https://austin.craigslist.org/boa/4883124647.html http://siouxcity.craigslist.org/boa/4874106321.html http://boise.craigslist.org/boa/4891999869.html |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 12:54pm
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http://siouxcity.craigslist.org/boa/4874106321.html Being from eastern Iowa this one is only a days drive over and back. Seems priced right, only 157 hours? Must be a rebuild? What motor would this have in it? I assume this one would get up to 40-45mph without a problem? Any other questions I should be asking? Thanks Note the tube in the back, my 5 year old is asking if thats included 
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 1:01pm
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Gary, you're preaching to the choir. Unfortunately most people can't relate to buying a 20-25 year old boat with a big thing in the middle and will go for the jet boat. I think under 10K is where those early 90's boats should be. I was seriously interested in buying a jet boat for my kids about 12 years ago. My wife said, "if you're going to buy one of those things, why don't you just buy a ski boat". I listened to her. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 1:54pm
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I know Bruce but sometimes I forget myself. Good thing with the boys, their skills would have been wasted on those ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 2:01pm
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Does that ad really say "No Spooks"? LOL, unbelievable and hilarious.  These ski boats are not a "commodity" item. They didn't make that many even when they were new. Location, condition, features, and specific situations the buyer or seller may be (as well as their knowledge of the subject matter) in will cause a wild fluctuation in pricing from one to another. Generalizing that they should all be a certain price point, either (admittedly) high or low, seems a little bold and silly. I'll gladly "overpay" for the right boat in the right location because I like the boats more than the thrill of the deal. Each of these boats is pretty much a "one of one" for sale at that current time, which for the picky buyer makes it a seller's market. For somebody that just wants a deal and doesn't care about the boat, sure. Buyer's market for those. There were no real "steals" this fall on these unless they were beaters, and the few that meet my standards are "overpriced". I'm ready to overpay this spring for the right one and I won't regret the purchase. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 2:12pm
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[QUOTE=M3Fan] Does that ad really say "No Spooks"? LOL, unbelievable and hilarious.QUOTE] I saw that and I can't imagine that means what you think it means, although I couldn't come up with anything else either. I can justify paying a premium for a really nice boat, but I, like a lot of other people here are much more enthusiastic than most other buyers. |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 3:54pm
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We found this 95 SN last year advertised for $15 but purchased for $13.5 100 original hours garage kept. They are out there. I did end up having repairs that cost me another $1,000 by the time it was water worthy again. Keep looking, buy now before boats jump into Summer pricing. A well cared for 1,000 hour boat can be worth more than a 300 hour boat that was not taken care of. Proper maintenance and good winter storage technique is everything on boats. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 3:57pm
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What did you have to do to it Mark? and did you do the work yourself? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 4:04pm
I'd be curious on how old the seller is? I haven't heard the term since my late father was around! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 4:14pm
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I'm guessing he means no Craigslist scammers, I've sold a couple items on CL over the past couple months and as you could guess you get 10 scammers for every 1 legitimate inquiry. I emailed this guy, he claims that it really has 157 original hours on it. Seems almost unreal for a 93. I might go take a look at it tomorrow. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 5:24pm
Hopefully "spooks" is a southern Illinois term for scammer but, St.Louis, you never know!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 5:31pm
| Surely by "No Spooks" he must be referring to electrical gremlins. |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: February-21-2015 at 5:34pm
Rare but It wouldn't be unheard of... I would definitely go see it Tomorrow if you are in the market. .. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: February-22-2015 at 3:45am
You did good Tim, now can I borrow the "NWZ good deal goggles" so I can find some realistic prices within 800 miles of me?
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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: February-23-2015 at 4:07am
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What did you have to do to it Mark? and did you do the work yourself? Our 1995 came to us with 100 hours but on first dip in the water we discovered a bent Prop shaft that they had run till it wore out the cutlass bearing in the strut. I really don't think they even knew it was bent, first time boat owners that parked it in the garage for 19 years. Yes all work done myself but with great advice and help from this forum. I was so happy with the condition of the hull and interior that it did not bother me to do the repairs. Also, all the struts, the thermostat and impeller needed replacement, again from sitting. The trailer brakes needed new cylinders and a flush, minor stuff but all good now. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: March-01-2015 at 12:58pm
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HW--- does putting kids up front help with reducing wake size for slalom? I'm thinking it does but never verified. ------------- 2008 MasterCraft 197TT 1996 Nautique Super Sport 1988 Waterlogged Supra Mariah |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-01-2015 at 2:13pm
Tom - where are you guys from in the great state of IA? Good to see another member added to the Iowa Contingency! If you're really interested in that Souix City boat let Bill (FanofCCFan) know as he's closer and already mentioned being able to go look at this boat for another member. We've owned a SNOB and then upgraded to a 2001 Ski Nautique. Agree 100% with everyone here that the space in the bow isn't exactly ideal for skiing off a dock. If you're passing thru Des Moines to see that boat and want to take a look at several others side-by-side for comparison let me know. Our old 96 SNOB and a few other 90+ Ski Nautiques (91 SN and 97 SN) are currently in storage at our boat club downtown Des Moines. I'm sure the guys wouldn't mind us lifting a few covers to take a look. If you're waiting till spring we can probably arrange a few test rides. ------------- |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-02-2015 at 12:49am
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Tom - a bit after the fact, but I'll put my 2 cents in for '90's Sport Nautiques. For me a Sport with the extra size and usable open bow works better than a closed bow Ski would. I often have 2-3 adults and 3-4 kids in the boat. Yes, we could find a way to leave some people at the dock, but half the fun for the kids is all being together and watching each other, plus we tend to head to a calmer part of the lake to ski. Slalom - I ski in closed bow Ski's with a few friends, awesome ski wake, better than my Sport. But, if I run the boat light with just 2 people in the boat while I ski, the wake is excellent, and I'm not good enough to really need the better wake. So, in your search I'd suggest you look at a Sport for comparison. The '93-'97 Sports can be found in reasonably good condition for $12,000-$14,000 now, and '98-'00 for just a bit more. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-02-2015 at 1:11am
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Thanks for all the responses, very helpful. I'm over in Cedar Rapids IA, havn't had a chance to go look at the one over in Sioux City yet. I think my hesitation is in the speed of an open bow or any for that matter. Should i be looking exclusively for a pro boss motor to get 40--45 mph out of an open bow? Can I assume that any closed bow will archive 45 mph? I really think for my slalom needs any will provide a nice wake, its the footin speed that i also want to achieve. Being in IA if II decide to buy now there will not be a test drive but the price should be right. Maybe i should just wait. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-02-2015 at 1:41am
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The open bow Sports run mid 40's with pro boss (285 HP) or GT-40 (310 HP). I'm not a barefooter so can't offer any insight there, but there's not a major speed difference between the 20 ft. Ski's and 21 ft. Sports given similar power. It sounds like you need the HP for what you want to do, so yes you should look for the higher output engines. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: terminaldegree
Date Posted: March-02-2015 at 2:31am
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Just another data point...our sport runs mid 40s with 2 adults and a full tank of gas. We enjoy the open bow, but I don't really like running with more than 4 adults on board in anything other than calm conditions. The open bow isn't a typical walk-through, which is inconvenient for adults. If this boat were smaller, I'd probably prefer the closed bow setup. Having said that, riding up in the bow is a nice sensation in good weather. Freeboard at the stern seating positions is not much, which would make me a little concerned for small children or inexperienced passengers on rougher days/more aggressive maneuvers. Granted, I'm coming from driving 40 foot express cruisers weighing close to 20,000#, so everything seems rough, loud, and a little scary by comparison. ------------- 1996 Sport Nautique GT40/Acme 422 |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 3:02am
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You guys have been a boat load of useful information. I found another open bow with at GT-40 and decent hours. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/4905894648.html The owner claims that he gets mid 40s out of this boat. Can I mount a barefoot boom on any of these Nautiques or are there some that aren't designed for a boom? Thanks again for all the help. Tom |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 2:01pm
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He has come down in price, then, because this is the same boat for $15,999. http://www.onlyinboards.com/1996-Ski-Nautique-196-Open-Bow-for-sale-Atlanta-Missouri-44570.aspx" rel="nofollow - Only inboards add Go to barefoot central .com That is a pretty popular tower for barefoot boats, and there is a boom that attaches to it. |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 2:37pm
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Pretty much any Ski Nautique with the exception of the early boats (60's & 70's) with the skinny pylon. It's still possible with the right boom clamp. If you ask me that boat is over priced and the big tower reduces it's value. If you're looking for an open bow start looking for Sports. The Ski Nautique Open Bow was a great idea but the space isn't useful a majority of the time you're on the water. ------------- |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 4:44pm
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Help me understand what the drawback of the tower is. Do they just make the boat look ugly? Is it a personal preference to keep the boat as pure to its original form as possible or is there a functional difference in how the boat performs with the tower? Having never had one I tend to think it would be useful to keep the extra skis up there but maybe its not as convenient as it looks and maybe it causes other problems. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 5:04pm
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Carrying around extra skis is as helpful as extra people. Just go back to the dock. One of the biggest drawbacks is parking/storage. Added weight doesn't help either. ------------- |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 5:34pm
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Towers are definitely a personal preference item, nobody is right or wrong, just some like them, some don't. I use a Flightpipe on my Sport, find it very easy to use and quick to put up and take down. As for storing skis/boards, I've got a lot of storage in my boat so we can make skis disappear under the passenger seat or ski locker, boards can go in the trunk though usually put them on the starboard side of the doghouse. But, when I'm in boats with towers, I get the convenience. Nothing to put up or take down, storage outside of the boat, place for speakers if you want them. There are certainly some towers that are just ugly, that's a different story. I know a couple of us have said this already, but I'd really like to see you check out a Sport before you buy an open bow Ski Nautique. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-10-2015 at 6:10pm
| I think your right, now I just need to find that perfect sport somewhere in the midwest. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 12:06am
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http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/4898317997.html This one looks interesting, planning to call on it tomorrow and see what he says. he says its been sitting for years. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 12:14am
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/4898317997.html" rel="nofollow - '96 Super Sport Tommy, that's a v-drive Super Sport rather than a direct drive Sport Nautique. More geared toward wakeboard than slalom, others here can tell you more about the wake, I've never been in one. I will say that there may be a number of people here that would be tempted to jump on that boat for under 10 grand. Looks like it will need an interior at some point, but otherwise looks to be in good shape. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 12:29am
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Well now I know what a V-drive is. That must explain the rear mounted engine. I dont think thats right for me. I found this one in TN, Sport, GT-40 http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/4868383015.htm |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 12:44am
http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/4868383015.html" rel="nofollow - Sport in TN Hard to see much in those pictures, but looks OK. $13,300 is a good starting point if in good mechanical and cosmetic shape so you don't have to spend much on it in the 1st few years. He says OBO so you might be able to own that boat for $11,800 or something like that. I'm pretty sure that's a '96 or '97. Sports - the '93 and newer have no wood in them, all composite stringers, so no worries about rot. '93-'97 are the style like the one in that ad, slanted back and no trunk. '98-'02 have a squared off back and a large trunk for storage. The trunk is an awesome feature, on my boat a ton of stuff disappears into the trunk. But, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the earlier version and, just personal opinion here, I think the slant backs are nicer looking boats on the water. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:18am
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Due to the intake manifold that's a 95 or possibly an early 96 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:31am
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Couple more http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/boa/4874336985.html http://brainerd.craigslist.org/bod/4904271851.html Both look to be direct drives reasonably priced. Nisswa is practically my hometown and only an 8ish hour drive |
Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:51am
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that Cincinnati boat looks clean. no hours listed though ------------- bring the ruckus http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5347" rel="nofollow - 2000 Pro Air |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 11:50am
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Tommy, Regarding Towers, the good: High tow point ideal for everything except slalom & trick, board/ski racks for storage and a place to hang speakers, place to mount bimini, when towing from tower people can sit in the backseat, ideal location for stern/all around light the bad: makes covering a pita, added weight, bug catcher when towing, may need to be folded for lift/garage clearance Regarding Sport vs SN Open Bow, have owned both and for my use the SNOB is it, both great boats however SNOB has better tracking/handling, slalom wake & may run a touch faster - Sport has more space & better storage and a touch bigger board wake. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 12:57pm
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One vote for Sport and one for SNOB. I don't really care one way or the other about the tower. How much difference is there in the wake between the two? I'm no professional skier but I also don't want to leave the water while cutting the wake either. Speed sounds comparable, I am looking at the ProBoss or GT-40 which it sounds like will achieve mid 40s in either. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 1:27pm
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Keep in mind like Tim said in his post on the first page on a SNOB you have to climb over the dash to get to the front seating. The Sport you just walk thru to the front. Any of these choices IMOH will be a better wake than you have experenced before,they are after all Nautiques ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: a0128
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:29pm
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Not my boat, however appears to be in really good condition for what TommySki is looking for. http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/4918394175.html" rel="nofollow - 1999 Sport Nautique 
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:35pm
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Tommy, if you wait for enough votes from this crowd on these two different boats, you'll grow old. Not many have owned or operated a SNOB. Its actually one of the more odd SN's made. The reports are true, the cockpit is smaller, and the bow, although open, isn't big enough but maybe for 2 small kids. The issues I had with one is that in rougher water, it was very simple to swamp the nose in the chop. If you want to make sure that you have enough room, forget the SNOB and go to a higher HP Sport and enjoy the water with more people. By putting a few up front while skiing, you'll still have a nice enough wake and enough room in the boat.. You would quickly find fault in the snob and want to upgrade, as I did.. Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 2:36pm
Love the white hull but IMO too high priced for a '99, and sounds like a questionable trailer. If he'd take less it's certainly a good looking boat, appears to be taken care of. Need to know hours and some engine pics. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 3:22pm
From my personal experience...... the only people who will fit up front in the "tea-cup" are children ages 12 or younger. If you have a bimini top, good luck crawling through to the front. The only adults that fit were passed out drunk !  Minimal storage and rather cramped main cockpit.... but otherwise one awesome ride with plenty of power .....and loads of "cool boat" comments from the Nautique fans on the lake.------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: March-11-2015 at 3:33pm
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That Nashville sport has been listed for a month or so. I keep seeing in in the local craigslist. It is actually in Smithville, which is a small town next to Center Hill Lake --- a wonderful lake. It is a lake where you would want a tower because there are no docks, just huge marina. It is also really deep so likely has never touched bottom. |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: March-13-2015 at 1:06pm
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Tommy, do you mind purple? http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=31403" rel="nofollow - 93 Sport on Ski it Again  
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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-13-2015 at 2:30pm
I love that boat!!! Looks like it was taken care of, too. Trailer bow stop looks like it was modified, but can't see clearly and am not as familiar with Eagle trailers. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-13-2015 at 3:32pm
| It is hard to see however it appears to be a standard Eagle roller bow stop, they offer that setup or the ramlin style crash pads. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-13-2015 at 3:38pm
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That spotter seat on the '93 is killing me. Though I know it's a factory offering it sure looks out of place. Other than that, I love it. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-16-2015 at 11:41pm
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http://www.nisswamarine.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=1147349&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&sq=nautique&fr=xPreOwnedInventory" rel="nofollow - 93 Sport I like this one too and its a bit closer. I wish there were more pictures of the interior. It sounds like the one posted above has had some recent maintenance done which is nice and he'd probably come down on price. I too don't particularly like the single spotter seat. I assume that there is typically a bench there? Any other thoughts? Looking to haul one home in the next week or so. |
Posted By: a0128
Date Posted: March-17-2015 at 1:54pm
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Don't remember what your budget was, however White Lake Marine (NC) has what looks to be a nice 2001 Air Nautique for sale. $21,500 with trailer. http://whitelake.com/portfolio/2001-air-nautique/" rel="nofollow - 2001 Air Nautque 
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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: March-17-2015 at 2:17pm
Talk to Donald about this boat - I am pretty sure he's looked at it.... or what the heck, even Townsend! ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-17-2015 at 3:03pm
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I'm trying to keep the price tag around 10K That does look like a nice boat. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-18-2015 at 11:49pm
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http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=31403" rel="nofollow - 93 Sport - Ski it again Has anyone contacted this guy before about this boat? There's no number to call (unless I am missing it, which there is a good chance) and he doesnt respond to emails. Thanks, Tom |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-18-2015 at 11:53pm
| My recent experiences on Ski it again is that responses get booted to spam folders so until the seller checks their spam.... |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:04am
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Thats unfortunate. I've been checking mine and I don't see any responses from him. Also it doesn't look like he has it posted on Craigslist either. It's between these two boats. Pretty much the same, however they KY one appears to have had some considerable maintenance and replacements done to the motor. I don't like the spotters seat. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=31403%20" rel="nofollow - KY - 93 Sport The Nisswa marine boat had a couple seats recovered. The guy says its all in good repair, I'm planning to look at it next week. http://www.nisswamarine.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=1147349&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&sq=nautique&fr=xPreOwnedInventory%20" rel="nofollow - Nisswa Marine |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:06am
| Purple. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:16am
| If only I could get a hold of purple. I guess I could just start driving that direction and see if I could find him...... |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:23am
Purple is a very "period-appropriate" color.... like Champagne/Pink, Avacado, Teal or Lime. It's the sign of the past times. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:30am
| Nah I like those purple 93's. In fact, I think I just bought one. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:38am
| Did you happen to purchase one from Lexington KY? If so you'd save me the trouble of trying to get a hold of the guy. |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 12:40am
| Ha ha, no, it's a CB Ski. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 2:49am
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Much as I love that purple Sport, I guess the spotter seat would bother me as well. At first I didn't think so, you could add the little jump seat that fits between the seats, I did that on mine. But, it would look strange, and the bucket spotter seat takes up more room so not sure it would fit. So, I'd go with the Nisswa Sport. Have you been able to get pictures of the interior to make sure it has the "normal" spotter seat? ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 8:30am
Nice  ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 10:47am
| The listing for the purple boat is by a broker, Brandon Cruse of central Kentucky inboards, 859-396-0518 |
Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 1:16pm
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I see the add on Only Inboard's too. When I google that number 859-396-0518 a couple of other boats come up too. Also I see a website Central Kentucky Inboards. Lastly, I see that in the past Brandon has an account here and has posted boats here under the nicknames of "nautigue dad" and "big wake". Bummer, I thought that was a personal owner boat. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 1:37pm
| Last I checked, central ky inboards operates out of his house- he's a broker, not a dealer. Not sure if he handles paperwork but I'm not sure he does much more than marketing. He certainly doesn't see the boats hes selling in person- he doesn't stock anything. Purely a web business I think. |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 3:24pm
It looks like Purple is appropriate for the current period. At least according to Nautique. Congrats on the purchase. Check out the 2015 Ski Nautique 200 Official Video: https://youtu.be/pIXlFgvJczk" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/pIXlFgvJczk |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-19-2015 at 11:58pm
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I called and Found out the http://www.nisswamarine.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=1147349&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&sq=nauti&fr=xPreOwnedInventory%20" rel="nofollow - Nisswa Sport also has the single spotters seat and not the bench. I guess thats fine. I'm headed up to see this one next week. Its listed at $10,995, this seems to be a reasonable asking price based on what I have seen for mid 90's sports with 600+ hours in good shape. However I have no way of knowing how to value this boat. I'd like to think I could get it for more in the $9500 range. |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: March-20-2015 at 1:13am
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The interior cannot be a highlight instead numerous pictures of the cover ??????? ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-20-2015 at 1:23am
| He is sending me pictures of the interior. He said the dealership recovered two of the seats that had tares when they took it in. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-22-2015 at 9:17pm
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Does anyone else have reservations about buying a boat without a water test first? Maybe its just me. I'm planning to see that Nisswa Sport later this week and haul it home if it checks out. Anything you'd suggest looking for or asking about? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-22-2015 at 9:59pm
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I kind of do,will they at least run it on a hose? Maybe it would help if you could get it for 10. Don't want to scare you off but some things won't show up with out one,stiff steering,prop or shaft vibration. Are they including the sport nautique side decals? Are you mechanically inclined to do some work if needed? Has it had recent service,fuel filter,impeller,cap,plugs? Just some things to think about ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-22-2015 at 10:07pm
| I agree with Gary. If it's a straight up steal, that's one thing. But it sounds like average fair price. I'd drive it first. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-22-2015 at 11:34pm
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Based on other '93 sports its not a steal at the current price, I'm hoping to get it for closer to 10. All I was told is that it was checked out by their techs and was worth taking in on trade. Although I am mechanically able to do about anything to it I'd prefer not to for at least this coming season. Unfortunately I don't believe the ice is out on the lakes in northern MN yet however if it is I'll request a test drive. I'm calling again tomorrow to see if I can get any other information out of them. Thanks for all the help. |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: March-22-2015 at 11:41pm
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You have seen the checklists in the FAQ, right? ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-23-2015 at 12:11am
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I have now and I read through all of the posts related to the checklists etc. I have a good list to bring with me. Thank you for the reference to that, very helpful. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-24-2015 at 5:18pm
      Interior looks pretty good. |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: March-26-2015 at 5:52pm
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http://lakeland.craigslist.org/bod/4950200697.html This just popped up today. Although a lil bit of a drive for you and a few coins more, seems like a deal. You have eyes and temporary storage here. Do not expect any customer service from those yay-hood. I've emailed, called, and spent an hour there in person on a 96 ski with zero acknowledgement. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-26-2015 at 6:39pm
| looks like a steal all right. i'm about 30 minutes away from looking at this 93 sport. if it is what they say it is and i can drive away for about 10K I'll be the owner soon. Will keep you posted. |
Posted By: TommySki
Date Posted: March-27-2015 at 4:46am
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The boat's in very good shape. Interior was all in good repair. Prop turns freely, gel coat is clean with no scratches and they had the new sport decals. The engine is clean all around, no rust or leaks, fresh oil and the pan was spotless. Trailer is solid with no rust, tires are a little cracked but still lots a tread. Obviously this was a garage stored boat that was well maintained. just got home, the 93 sport is now in my garage. Thanks to all for the great advise that lead me to this boat. |
Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: March-27-2015 at 6:11am
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ahem, POIDH ------------- bring the ruckus http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5347" rel="nofollow - 2000 Pro Air |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-27-2015 at 9:20am
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Tommy, that's great to hear, congrats! You'll love that boat. When do you plan to get it out on the water? Adam, had to look up that acronym. Guess I'm not in tune with modern shorthand. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Toertel
Date Posted: March-27-2015 at 10:15am
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Pics Or It Didn't Happen.... Congrats ------------- 1994 Sport Nautique |