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Topic: Thinking of upgrading, your thoughts??
Posted By: JPASS
Subject: Thinking of upgrading, your thoughts??
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 6:25pm
Took my wife over to the local Nautique dealer to look at some boats. My plan was to upgrade in a few years to something newer and bigger. I thought she'd hate everything they had........and she did, until we came across http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2008-Correct-Craft-SV211-Team-Edition-102297389" rel="nofollow - this

We love the boat, but know nothing about the newer boats aside from the fact that they look awesome.

The price does not include a trailer.

What do you guys think? What do you think she's worth? He said the hour meter was new so the real hours are around 350-ish.

Hoping to take her out for a test drive tomorrow. My buddy said he wold gladly buy our '92 for $7500.

I knew I should have never gone there. Now we have the wantsies.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique



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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 6:51pm
JPASS,

I like the 211 as a crossover boat....It is much more wake-activity friendly than ski-activity friendly...... but for a family, it is REALLY comfy and laid out well. There are several guys on PN that have them and like them for just that purpose.

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 6:51pm
Always liked this boat, before the Sport200 this was the Crossover boat to have. I have never skied behind it, but Moj has one, so hopefully he will chime in. I am a huge proponent of the 99 to 03 Sport Nautiques, because they do everything fairly well. I always wondered how the 211 foots - don't know anyone who has ever taken a run behind one.

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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 7:15pm
That has a Chevy motor. You should be able to hook it up to the computer and determine exactly how many hours on it.

BKH

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Livin' the Dream



Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 7:37pm
A friend of mine purchased a clean 2004 SV211 TEAM edition yesterday with only 466 hours. It is black and very very clean. It came with a dual axle Ramblin Trailer that was perfect. He paid $32K Cash. The seller was asking $34.5K and all of my research showed that it was priced correctly. It had a full cover with skirts and a Bimini Top. The previous owner stated that it had a great surf wake (either side) and the wake board wake looked great. My friend was wanting it for Surfing.

FYI,

Donald


Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

I always wondered how the 211 foots - don't know anyone who has ever taken a run behind one.


Steve, I've seen pictures of the foot wake and it looks pretty nice! Not that i'm a foot wake connoisseur but it resembled pictures of the BFN wakes more than the SN/Sport wakes.



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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 8:20pm
All good input so far. Boat was beautiful. Can't wait for the test ride tomorrow.





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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 8:27pm
$40k is quite a chunk of change to do something your most likely paid for '92 will (minus the open bow). If your deal falls through with your friend, let me know, I might be interested.


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 9:05pm
Mikeski over on Planet Nautique foots behind his 211. He has the standard Excalibur, and it doesn't have quite enough power for him to 1 foot. I know he's made some mods in the last cople of years, but sitll not sure if he's able to 1 foot. Of course, he does have about a ton of speakers and stereo equipment on board. Mike is also a pretty
accomplished skier. I've towed him through the course at 15 and 22 off.
It's an ok ski boat, particularly above 30 mph. Certainly not as good
as a Ski Nautique, or a direct drive sport nautique, but also much better than my Super Air/210.

I surfed Mike's boat when I weighed about 230. I could surf with stock Ballast, but, of course, it was better with a sack or two on board.

It's been a few years since I've been ont his 211, but, until the sport 200 entered the scene, it would have been my first choice to replace my boat.

If you lean toward the board sports, and less toward skiing, 211. If you lean toward skiing and less toward board sport, Sport 200.

BKH


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Posted By: Airfooter
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 9:06pm
I was co-owner of a 2007 SV211 a few years back. Was it a good boat? Yes. Would I purchase another one if I could? Probably not. My dislikes about the boat are purely cosmetic and related to the interior. Performance wise the boat was great.

Dislikes:

1. The removable rear seat. I prefer a rear seat with a base (not one with a leg). This changed when the 216V came out.

2. No corner seat. This again changed when the 216V came out.

3. All of the exposed fiberglass in the interior. It's a waxing nightmare if you are anal about keeping everything shiny and spotless. A lot of new boats are like this, so this dislike is not specific to the SV211. I prefer boats with carpeted sides as it's easier to vacuum them than wax them.

4. Not a full sundeck. The walk through is nice, but the benefit of it did not outweigh the full sundeck IMO. A person could create a filler cushion if they wanted to though if this was going to be a deal breaker.   

5. Fiberglass swim platform.... They're just not the same as teak and I wouldn't have another if I had a choice... :)


If I could redo the 211 co-purchase that I made in 2007, I would look at a used 210. Just my 2 cents... Again, it depends on what type of skiing you'll be doing as well.       




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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 10:38pm
I've always liked the interior layout of those. Of course, I've never lived with one.

Doug (can't think of his screen name) brought his to the CT mini. Cool boat, I know they surf, board and ski it.

That's a very sharp looking color scheme on the one you posted. Definitely looks nice.


Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 10:43pm
Hey JP,
If you are shopping, try this one that is also close by:
http://www.qualitymotorcoach.com/boat_inventory_212.html" rel="nofollow - 2004 206

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1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar
1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow
1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow
1969 Seacamper Houseboat
1986 Harris Pontoon
2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard
1999 Adventurecraft


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by seacamper seacamper wrote:

Hey JP,
If you are shopping, try this one that is also close by:
http://www.qualitymotorcoach.com/boat_inventory_212.html" rel="nofollow - 2004 206


I'm always looking. I prefer a V-Drive and more storage. We are always trampling over crap in our current boat between wakeboards, coolers, and everyone's carry-ons. Makes for a small obstacle course on the boat at times.

Love our direct drive, but also like the cockpit layout of the V-drives. I may hate it after I drive it, but won't know that until tomorrow.

I'd rather pay around $30K, but seems like this pricing is pretty good considering it's a 2008.

Gonna have to juggle some money around to make this work, but I feel it would be a boat we would keep for many years.





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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 11:31pm
I really like the color of the 2008!

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1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar
1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow
1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow
1969 Seacamper Houseboat
1986 Harris Pontoon
2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard
1999 Adventurecraft


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: September-22-2014 at 11:47pm
All the junk goes up the tower..... we have room. 4 wakeboards and 2 skis on the tower...2 skis on the rack on the floor.... There's a trunk, floor locker and under seat storage too!

But no ZR6......

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78 SkiTiq


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 8:32pm
So we test drove it today. Boat was really nice up close. There were some scuffs, scrapes and oxidation in parts of the hull. Not a huge deal. There a few 'dimples' in the gel tat had me concerned. They looked like thumb sized dents in the gel. I've never seen anything like that before.

Out on the water her extra weight and size showed. I think she topped out at 36 on the PP (30mph on the speedo). Very lazy compared to our little 192.
The only ballast tank that worked was the starboard tank. The belly and port tanks did not fill, even though the pumps were running.

There were a few tears in two of the cushions. One of the bow speakers was blown and the front docking lights did not work either.

Boat has 400 hours according to the sales guy and he's unsure of the number of owners.

He was offering us the boat for $39900 with a used trailer. I said we need to think about it as it's at the very top of our budget.

The more I think about it, the more I think we want to pass. She was a beautiful boat, but at that price it would leave us no money for repairs, should any issues arise.

Here's a few pics.








I'm trying to set up a test drive on an '05 210 SAN. It's listed at $29900 and I'd like to see how the smaller boat drives compared to the larger SV.

If I liked it and could get it $25K I'd more than likely take her home.

What do you guys think of this:


http://orlando.craigslist.org/clt/4669007811.html" rel="nofollow - 2005 SAN





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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 9:13pm
With a 210 you will be getting further away from a nice ski wake. I would head towards the 206 if slalom is more important than board sports.

Not quite as big as the 211 but lots more room than your 92 SN.

If extra room is a priority, the 98-02 Sports are a lot of boat for the price. A real nice one would be purchased for under half the price of that 211. But like Steve I am biased

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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by lewy2001 lewy2001 wrote:

With a 210 you will be getting further away from a nice ski wake. I would head towards the 206 if slalom is more important than board sports.


I don't know how to ski. I've tried, but could never do well. We mostly wakeboard, so the 210, or even a sport, would be a good fit for us........I think.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 9:39pm
I second lewy's opinion on the 210, but if you board, they are a super nice boat.   I skied one a couple of years ago and am not a fan at all for the ski wake even at 30-32mph. If you're the caliber of boarder that can use the extra wake ramp, I think you'll like it


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 9:56pm
Originally posted by Dreaming Dreaming wrote:

I second lewy's opinion on the 210, but if you board, they are a super nice boat.   I skied one a couple of years ago and am not a fan at all for the ski wake even at 30-32mph. If you're the caliber of boarder that can use the extra wake ramp, I think you'll like it


Still learning how to board. I'd say I'm still a rookie, but learning more each outing. I doubt I'll ever be into serious tricks as I'm old and fragile these days, but most of the kids we take out like to board as well.

I'd love to test out a newer sport in addition to the 210. If anyone locally has one, I'd love to check it out.

Thanks again for all your help.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 11:02pm
I think you did good to pass on that one,seems to me extremely high for a boat thats not perfect,but what do I know?
Seems slow to me too,whats the deal with that?

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 11:13pm
Here's a nice looking Super Sport that's a whole lot more reasonable on price, which I think is near you?
http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4670021702.html" rel="nofollow - http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4670021702.html

That 210 is really nice looking boat too. Looks like a close cousin if not an exact clone of Mike's "05 210"s boat. I know he's very happy with is. Definitely has plenty of room inside. The board wake is awesome and I know they were surfing it too. There's some pics of it in the CT Mini thread:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34179&PN=10&title=ct-mini-2014-august-2224" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34179&PN=10&title=ct-mini-2014-august-2224


Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 11:27pm
Good pass on that one... I'm sure all the little tid bits could be sorted like the ballasts, seats and scuffs but not at 40k. Since you already have a nice boat, you can afford to be choosey.


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 11:46pm
Go check out that Super Sport. We like ours,lots of room and it's 11mph faster than the one you tried today!

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:44am
JP, sounds like you want the new boat for the room and modern features. Since you don't plan to ski, and sounds like the kids/friends don't ski much, seems like you are making the right choice going for the V-drive. I'm curious myself to get a ride in and behind a Sport 200, I'm not in the market to buy anything but seems like a pretty amazing boat. Having said that, the value you get on the 10-15 year old boats is just amazing, even maybe 8 years old. The amount of boat you get for $15,000 to $25,000 is pretty awesome. If you are willing to spend $30,000 plus you should expect everything to look good, everything to work the way it should, not malfunctioning ballast and torn cushions.

The '05 SAN looks really nice.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 9:10am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Go check out that Super Sport. We like ours,lots of room and it's 11mph faster than the one you tried today!


We don't like the colors, but may go check it out just to see how she performs and the storage options.

Not in any rush to buy, but definitely would like to upgrade. We're going to take our time this time and get the boat we absolutely fall in love with that checks all the boxes. We kinda rushed into our current boat just to get on the water.

We love our current boat and realize what great shape it's in (aside from the gel)compared to some of the stuff we see out on the lake and in the showrooms that are newer than ours.





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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 10:51am
There are some fugly colors out there,at times it seems people are keeping the good colors and only the bad ones are for sale. I was looking for a blue one to sorta match the Mustang. None to be found when I was looking,but found a nice one in a color that wasn't even on the radar. Team Red welcomed me with open arms

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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 11:59am
I'm not big on the purple either, but I do like the lines and the color... "scheme" I guess is the word, on that Super Sport, if not the actual color.


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:08pm
I kind of like the purple, and agree the scheme is nice and clean looking, including lettering. I'd say that's a bit high for a 1996, but looks to be in excellent shape with low hours.

What I don't know anything about, and is worth reading and asking about, is what the mid '90's vintage Super Sport's drawbacks, if any, are compared to the mid 2000's v-drives.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:09pm
Way overpriced for all that is wrong with that boat. Speed is also very suspect. Should do at least 42,43. Maybe more.

I don't know that I would call the 210 smaller boat, except for the weight.   211 weighs 700lbs more. 210 rated for more people.

211 is a better surf boat than 210, not even close IMO. Wakeboard, I would say is a matter of taste. 210 has the steep wake that boots the rider.
211 has a more rampy wake that is more similar to what the new wakeboard boats produce.

BKH

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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by bkhallpass bkhallpass wrote:

Way overpriced for all that is wrong with that boat. Speed is also very suspect. Should do at least 42,43. Maybe more.

I don't know that I would call the 210 smaller boat, except for the weight.   211 weighs 700lbs more. 210 rated for more people.

211 is a better surf boat than 210, not even close IMO. Wakeboard, I would say is a matter of taste. 210 has the steep wake that boots the rider.
211 has a more rampy wake that is more similar to what the new wakeboard boats produce.BKH


GPS had her topped out at 36. Maybe it was the way she was propped? No idea.

The 2005 210 seems like a smaller boat in regards to how high the sides of boat are from the water surface compared to the 2008 211.

I didn't like the fact that the 211 is no longer in production.

All of the items that weren't working would be fixed for the $40K asking price as would be a fairly new EZ loader Nautique trailer that the salesman sent a pic of this AM.

Going to look at the 2005 210 this weekend hopefully.



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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:53pm
They are asking a premium price for a sub par boat. Issues like that boat has are all completely fixed before we advertise something which is why we can ask premium pricing for boats.

If you could beat them down to 34 or so I would say to for it and slowly fix what needs to be done.



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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

They are asking a premium price for a sub par boat. Issues like that boat has are all completely fixed before we advertise something which is why we can ask premium pricing for boats.

If you could beat them down to 34 or so I would say to for it and slowly fix what needs to be done.


They were originally asking $44,9000. They reduced it to $39,900. They said they would fix everything (except for the two cushions)and include a nice looking trailer for $39,900.

I don't love the boat enough to spend that kind of coin at the moment. I'd rather wait for something else.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 1:00pm
You'll do better and you are in no hurry so make it happen.

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 1:15pm
JP, take a look at the 2004 210 on N3's site (N3boatworks.com). Look at how clean that boat is for $28,500. It has 1,000 hours, but hours don't always tell the story. I don't know anything about it, you could ask Zach, but that looks like a boat worth spending a bit extra for.

The colors aren't a scheme I'd like, just mentioning it as an example of value for the buck.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 1:41pm
Exactly, that one has 1000 hours on it and it's a nice boat for 1000 hours. Which is why it's at that 28,000 point instead of a 30-32k point. It is sold FYI closing tomorrow.

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Posted By: a0128
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

JP, take a look at the 2004 210 on N3's site (N3boatworks.com). Look at how clean that boat is for $28,500. It has 1,000 hours, but hours don't always tell the story. I don't know anything about it, you could ask Zach, but that looks like a boat worth spending a bit extra for.

The colors aren't a scheme I'd like, just mentioning it as an example of value for the buck.

This N3 boat would be the bomb next July 4th. While I have not purchased anything from N3, based on their videos, and the quality of their boats I would not hesitate to consider a used boat from them. As many have mentioned on this site, maintenance history is the key when looking at a high hour boat. Looks like it has either Wet Sounds REV8's or PRO80's on the tower. Nice!

That 2005 SAN on CL looked nice too. Low hours and a single owner boat. Big plus!


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by JPASS JPASS wrote:


I didn't like the fact that the 211 is no longer in production.



True, but the 210s you are looking at are no longer in production either. That hull ran from 95 to 2006.

BKH

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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 8:51pm
Salesman came back with a used (rather nice) 2 axle ramlin and the boat for $39600 + TTTL. They would fix the docking lights and ballast pumps if they were simply fixes. If it was more than bulbs and an impeller, then they wouldn't repair them and we'd have to take the boat as is. They would not repair the upholstery either way.

I have an appointment to go look at the 2005 210 on Friday. $29,900, does not include a trailer.



Half the fun is shopping and test driving. I've never driven any of these boats. Amazing how different they are.





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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 10:58pm
Is your tow vehicle ready for any of these bigger boats?

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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Is your tow vehicle ready for any of these bigger boats?


Towing capacity is 6100lbs. I think I'm good.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-24-2014 at 11:50pm
I'd still just move on from that '08 211, the dealer is dreaming and there's too many boats to look at to bother with a flawed deal.

Good luck with the 210. I really like that boat.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-25-2014 at 10:06am
You are in the buyers portion of the market now being end of season. Keep that in mind during negotiations.

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Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-25-2014 at 11:35am
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

You are in the buyers portion of the market now being end of season. Keep that in mind during negotiations.


I know and the 210 has been on craigslist since August with several price drops. I'll post some pics tomorrow of what I find.




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-25-2014 at 1:34pm
DFoster has a nice 211.They surf, ski, and wakeboard (and possibly now wakeskate?? ) behind it. I was in it at the Ct Mini but did not ride behind it. he has gutted the factory ballast in favor of a more robust set up and the wake looked very nice. I really like the idea of the walkt hru over the sundeck for accessing the platform, but I don't prefer the look, so that's a trade off for me. I also find the seating arrangement in the 211 to be a little odd.

My SAN on the other hand is not great for skiing, but If I want to take a run I go behind my BILs MC so no biggie for me. I have had much better skiers than myself behind it and while its not great, it is doable. The surf wake is ok with the right set-up and the wakeboard wake is stellar. It is pretty abrupt and steep, but you can add weight to the floor and the nose to make it a little mellower/rampy. took a bit to get used to but it really is a fun boat to ride behind. I have also towed several long line barefooters behind it. It has the Excal 330 and runs about 41-42 depending on conditions with the stock Acme 644 @ 5000 rpm. The boat also handles extremely well for a wake boat. A friend just bought a new 2014 Tige V drive and while the surf wake is nice, the wakeboard wake pales in comparison, even with more factory ballast and the TAPS system. It's amazing how far ahead of it's time that hull was.

I bought mine new in Dec 05 and it currently has over 550 hours on it. I had to replace the heater core due to a crack in the inlet nipple a few years ago, other than that the only issue I've had in 550+ hours was a stuck(open) T-stat this spring. A quick WFO run up the lake followed by a heat soaking popped it free and it's been fine all season- no tools required! I have zero complaints and zero regrets with my purchase. It's probably not worth anymore than the 30k he's asking for that one, but I don't think I could let mine go for that, it's just been too good to me.

And frankly, I like the more classic lines of that hull compared to the newer ones and I certainly don't warrant anymore performance on a personal level than a boat of that caliber provides. Good luck with whatever you decide. If you mostly wakeboard, you can"t go wrong with that boat.

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640 hours, not 1 regret


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-27-2014 at 5:22pm
So I went to see the '05 210 this morning. Unfortunately not the boat for me.

I really liked how this boat rode compared to the newer SV. It seemed more agile and lighter.

Most everything worked except for the anchor, bow lights, and tower speakers.

Dislikes for this boat:

Blue gel was oxidized and entire boat needed a good buffing.
Carpet was filthy and stained.
Aluminum had quite a bit of oxidation and pitting.
Nav and anchor lights were not working.
There were three tears in the upholstery.
The PP was not working properly.
There's was quite a bit of mildew on the upholstery.
There was some vibration when driving that the owner attributed to weeds in the prop. While the lake was quite weedy, we could not raise the boat high enough on the lift to confirm the weeds in the prop.

This boat maxed out at 39mph at 5000rpm. Slower than I thought.

He's asking $29,900 (no trailer), but seemed negotiable. I'm amazed at how dirty this boat was considering he new someone was coming over to see it.

It seems like they use the boat, then simply put it on the lift when done. No cleaning it or anything.

This boat was not in the shape I would pay even $25K for, especially with only 272 hours on it.

Here are some pics:




















What do you guys think this thing would be worth?




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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: September-27-2014 at 6:06pm
I want to know where you found blue skies at? I'm gonna build an ark.


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-27-2014 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I want to know where you found blue skies at? I'm gonna build an ark.


Got to the boat around 11. It was raining off and on by 12:30.

Supposed to clear up mid week.



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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-28-2014 at 12:38am
Of the things you list, I have 2 concerns. First is the driveline vibration. It's not weeds, it's something in the driveline. Second, it's the 9 year old boat being neglected and beat on. People who don't take care of the rest of the boat don't take care of the mechanical stuff either. So, I'd bet it's been neglected from a maintenance standpoint and who knows how long that driveline has been run with either a misaligned shaft or other problem.

So, I'd probably pass on it. If I was buying, figuring the market for '05 boats of similar style is in the high 20's or so, I'd probably not pay more than $22,000 or so based on needing a lot of care and possible transmission rebuild.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-28-2014 at 1:03am
Honestly, I'd probably be in the low(low) 20's on that boat with no trailer. If it needs as much work as it sounds. You probably could find a cleaner one ( maybe not as low hours) with a trailer for around close to what his asking price is. A trailer for his won't be cheap, and msy be hurting his chances to sell it.

The aluminum will clean up, gel can be buffed, the seats/carpet can be fixed and cleaned, lights are probably something minor, the vibration would worry me without being able to verify the cause before purchasing tho. If you like the boat, can verify the weedy prop and don't mind the elbow grease....lowball him and use it while you pick away at the other stuff. . Sounds like it's been for sale for a bit, the worst thing he can say is no.

Mike

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http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team

640 hours, not 1 regret


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-28-2014 at 1:29am
Mike, sounds like we agree.

There are definitely times when hours don't tell the story. I'd buy your boat with 1,000 hours every time before buying this one with 272. Most of us don't reach the useful life of an engine on a properly maintained boat, in my mind 2,000 hours with ease. Beat up boats need to sell at the very low end of the market, regardless of how few hours are on them.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-28-2014 at 1:29am
Thanks guys. I have no interest in purchasing this boat. I'd put the price at $20K considering it's condition, but didn't want to insult him with such a low offer. I'd rather pay $30K for a super clean, well maintained boat. I'm in no hurry to buy considering how nice our current boat is.

When the right boat catches my eye, I'll buy it. This one just isn't it.







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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: September-28-2014 at 9:57am
Originally posted by JPASS JPASS wrote:



Hoping to take her out for a test drive tomorrow. My buddy said he wold gladly buy our '92 for $7500.

I knew I should have never gone there. Now we have the wantsies.




That's a great price for the 92!
I like the Green color. But the blue one is nice too, and less $$.

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Js


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 3:25pm
Gonna go look at this http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4686050045.html" rel="nofollow - 02 SANTE Later this week. It still has the digital gauges, which concerns me (how much/trouble to replace them should they go bad?). Second owner. Says it's in excellent condition.

Anything I should look at specifically? 1200 hours on a chevy, should I be worried? Asking $26500, what would be a fair offer if it's in great shape and everything's working??











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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 3:41pm
I like the colors, that's not original upholstery though. Your own your own guessing at the hours on the boats that have digital gauges.   You have no idea if the gauge is the original so there is no way to get a true idea of the hours.

I don't know if it's posted here, but Wake Slayer has his 99 Python powered SS for sale.


Posted By: a0128
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by JPASS JPASS wrote:

Gonna go look at this http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4686050045.html" rel="nofollow - 02 SANTE Later this week. It still has the digital gauges, which concerns me (how much/trouble to replace them should they go bad?). Second owner. Says it's in excellent condition.

Anything I should look at specifically? 1200 hours on a chevy, should I be worried? Asking $26500, what would be a fair offer if it's in great shape and everything's working??










Here is a link from Nautiqueparts.com for replacement gauges. http://www.nautiqueparts.com/fariagaugeconversionkitforboatswithperfectpassandblkssgauges.aspx

If it is Chevy powered you can get the true hours off the ECU using a laptop and software. Any marina should be able to do the same.


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 4:00pm
I'm not convinced I like that trailer. No bow stop means no power loading, and the fenders don't appear to have any protection in case the hull drifts over them or up against them when retrieving.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 4:13pm
TX is correct, that is not an original interior but it looks like a decent quality job was done from the little bit you can see from the pics. The original sunpad had a curvy line instead of the straight color lines along with some other changes but if you like it then that is all that matters.

Since you said it has a chevy and I don't see the Python hump I am going to assume it's an Excal 330 which is good because you can get the true hours off the ECM unlike the GT40. If the Excal was well maintained then 1200 hours is nothing to be scared of.

The gauges are pretty straight forward to change out if you get the right kit. Check N3 or nautiqueparts.com for the current prices on those.


Posted By: a0128
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 4:15pm
The 2004 SANTE 210 at N3 still looks to be available.

Here is a quick video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FaHgkI1Ncuw


Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 6:01pm
Here is a link to Mike's 99' Python Powered Super Air, he is at 28k at the moment, boat is up in Minnesota

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/showthread.php?29510-1999-Python-Powered-Super-Air" rel="nofollow - 99' Super Air Link

The 02' does have an Excal so hours should be retrievable.

Buddy has an 06' 210 SANTE he is looking to sell, believe he would let it go at 33-34k range, this one is in Northern Michigan.


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: October-01-2014 at 8:11am
Well it appears wifey does not approve of the '02 SANTE. I think it's my fault for showing her the newer SV211 last week. After going through a bazillion pics and a few brochures it seems she likes the '06 and up 211s and the '07 and up SANs.

You know what they say, happy wife, happy life. Who am I to complain that she wants to have a nicer boat right?



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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-01-2014 at 12:42pm
It sounds like a 211 or 210 will do what you want to be doing better. If that's the case, sure it's an "upgrade". But, newer and bigger don't exactly translate to better IMO.

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: October-01-2014 at 1:03pm
Since I'm not experienced with the v-drive boats, could someone do a quick rundown on the pros and cons of a '98-'02 Super Sport vs. a 210 vs. a 211? I feel like I know the direct drive ski models pretty well but would like to know more about the capabilities of the wake boats.

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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique


Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: October-01-2014 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

It sounds like a 211 or 210 will do what you want to be doing better. If that's the case, sure it's an "upgrade". But, newer and bigger don't exactly translate to better IMO.


When it comes to storage, wake size, seating capacity and the convenience of the tower over the extended pylon (in regards to set up and take down), I would say it's better for us.



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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique


Posted By: Airfooter
Date Posted: October-01-2014 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by JPASS JPASS wrote:

Well it appears wifey does not approve of the '02 SANTE. I think it's my fault for showing her the newer SV211 last week. After going through a bazillion pics and a few brochures it seems she likes the '06 and up 211s and the '07 and up SANs.

You know what they say, happy wife, happy life. Who am I to complain that she wants to have a nicer boat right?



One thing you might want to consider when looking at SV211's is that the '07 SV211's had taller seat backs than previous years. It made the boat feel deeper, which we really liked, but maybe not a deal breaker for you.

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1992 Nautique Excel



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