what is this.. what the value 1965 classic
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Topic: what is this.. what the value 1965 classic
Posted By: vee
Subject: what is this.. what the value 1965 classic
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 2:51am
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i just got this correct craft. ive read on this site to look for the i.d. plate. i found it but i dont know what it means.. ill post pics of boat and plate. im hoping you guys may be able to identify it and help me with the value in the state its in.. and if someone interested let me know.. it will be for sale once i know what it is ok thank for your time you guys.. hull no. pc154 engine no. e1p21 3985 ------------- thanks |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 6:37am
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Michael, Welcome to CCfan. We'll be waiting for the pictures. The "PC" prefix would indicate Plastic Classic. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 8:29am
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i uploaded the pics and can see them in my control panal but cant seem to link them to this post.. is there a trick im missing.. ------------- thanks |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 8:50am
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Click on the "Full Reply" editor (the arrow pointing up and to the right). From there you will see 2 icons for images - 1 to link an existing image and 1 to upload and link. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 1:02pm
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ok there uploaded in my file manager.. how do i link it and put it in my posting.. its asking ne for an html// adrrs.. i dont what the adrss is ------------- thanks |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 1:15pm
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Look at the link in my signature called "image and video help". Or, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li34Y7NTcVg" rel="nofollow - this video : ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 1:46pm
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Michael sent me his pics. Here they are: http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/ResizedImage_1397017971424_zpsa881b0cb.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/ResizedImage_1397017949156_zpse72b1cbf.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/IMG_20140306_145127_841_zps218ca2b4.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/IMG_20140408_212539_833_zps90528898.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/IMG_20140306_145116_303_1_zpseade4ea6.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/IMG_20140306_145037_298_zps2ac5fe42.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  That's pretty rough! ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 2:50pm
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Oh NICE! Another interceptor about to be saved. I hope it's a 312. I love the old Y-block Fords. I sure recognize the Carter YH dual carb set up. It will be a big job, but a worthy candidate for restoration! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 3:08pm
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Its a good thing you are in Kali. My wife would shoot me in my sleep for bringing that home. And yeah, id bring it home... ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 3:51pm
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Yep, an early 60's CC "Classic"... Michael, The boat is one that this group loves to restore. The problem with what you have there is this poor thing has been sent to die long ago.. I see it is full of water, so it's very likely the stringers are completely soaked and rotten. The interior is surely gone and who knows about the motor. Oh and the trailer is eh, fried.... The boat can be restored, but in it's current state, the value is what someone is willing to pay for it. Most would call it a "project" for sure.. $1000-1500 maybe.. Parts would be worth more, but there are guys here that could resurrect this lost child.. Sell it whole to someone !!! More will chime in to lend a hand in discussion.. Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 3:56pm
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It's a Classic. She is in pretty rough shape, but worth saving! I assume throttle is pedal on floor? What does it have for a shifter? Non original windshield? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 3:57pm
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The other missing item is the motor box. That will be hard to come by. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 3:58pm
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Wrong windshield as well..... ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 4:05pm
cant remember on mine, but might be a wooden one? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
ny_nautique wrote:Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 4:08pm
Dog house is clearly there, it just needs a top (or complete rebuild, but easily enough there for a template). ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 4:41pm
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thanks for all your posts. ive been working on the job site where this boat came from for over a month and have been checking the site here for info.. ill post the story about the boat tonite.. thanks again for all your post and help!! ------------- thanks |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 5:11pm
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Ah I was thinking that this one was a molded plastic doghouse with the rounded sides. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 9:19pm
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Well, anything is restorable but if you move forward, it will take plenty of work. It may not be the 312 but being a 65 it most likely is. I wish I had my Interceptor manual here in Il. so I could decode the engine ID. Most likely it will have the Dearbomatic trans. I'd sure start with stripping the hull and seeing if a wet sand and buff will do any good. The early gels can be problematic. Before you go that far, chances are high that you will need stringer work. Keep the pictures coming. BTW, that black on the top of the hull sides is not original. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 9:30pm
It will take plenty of work, but remember what Gary's mustang looked like before he started? The black at top of hull????? Am I missing something? /you looking at a shadow? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 9:39pm
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shadow. Even if I was local and I'm not. Even if my wife would let me and she wouldn't. Even if I had the room for another boat and I don't I would not pay over $400 for that awesome boat. problem is there is not one single facet of the package that isn't in really bad shape. Every single piece and part and function will have to go full tear down, assess, replace, refurbish. The only redeeming quality is the name, age and class. It is walking a fine line between parts boat and project boat. A very fine line. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 10:06pm
Yup, I looked at it again and it's a shadow.  It must be the damn XP non supported running system I have on this computer! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 10:50pm
Pete - you even keep your computer OS original too huh?  ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 11:07pm
| The tag says the engine code is E, so that's a 312 as long as it's the original engine. Give it a good cleaning and get all the debris out of it. She'll grow on you. They're great boats. I think ours is PC 137 and it's supposedly a 62, so yours may be older than a '65. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-09-2014 at 11:20pm
Since the windshield is wrong I'd just remove it. They are overrated anyway  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 12:32am
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Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 3:54am
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one of my clients asked me to clear a 5 acre propery of debre and repair his house. he didnt have the money to pay for it so he asked if i would do the work based on what i could get for some of the items and scrap metal. i knew it wouldnt be a money maker but i figure its just the right thing to do. he bought the property for his best friend and he passed away and needs to sell the property right away. ive have removed over 30tons of trash and another 20 tons of scrap. i had one of my guys on a backhoe ready to pull the motor out of this boat and trash the rest.. something told me not to do it.. im already upside down on the job ans knew it would cost a pretty penny to have this boat towed but i figured if someone would enjoy it then the money didnt matter.. just felt like it was the right thing to do.. its a really neat boat and i hope someone will make an offer on it. thanks for all your posts. im doing the paperwork so that should let us kniw the actual year..if anyone want specific pics let me know ok ------------- thanks |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 12:34pm
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With the overall condition of the boat and the trailer, I think baitkiller pretty much has it spot-on as a $300-$400 item. I assume the boat is in California? Someone local would need to be the buyer. Shipping it anywhere would be wayyyy more than the value of the boat itself. I hate to say it, but the other option would be to part it out, you might be able to make a little more money off of it, but would have your time invested and would have a hull to dispose of. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 12:53pm
| I guess the case has been made to part it out as there's got to be at least $1500 in parts there, unless the engine is junk. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 1:12pm
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Bruce, Looking at the engine pics, I would be shocked if it wasnt frozen, let alone getting her to run. Appears to have been uncovered for some time. Even in "sunny Ca" chances are there has been water intrusion. vee,, have you pulled the dipstick to check oil level? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 3:28pm
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i havent checkrd the oil but i will.. is there a way to spin the motor without taking it apart ------------- thanks |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 5:46pm
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Check the oil level before trying to turn it over. If it is over full, you may have water in the oil. I would then pull the drain plug to see if water comes out as well. If it hasnt been run, the water will be the first to drain. To turn it over the best thing to do is take the spark plugs out, squirt a little Marvel Mystery oil in each cylinder and try turning it over by hand with a breaker bar. If engine is not stuck, put "fresh" oil in it. I sometimes put used oil from my truck in it at this point, just to see if it will start. Hook up a battery and hotwire the iginition(unless you have the key)See if it will start, cough, sputter or anything. By the looks, expect to have to do some major work to those Carter YH carbs. Get to this point and we can go from there. . ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-10-2014 at 8:55pm
You can try a socket and breaker bar on the front crank bolt but don't over do it. You don't want to strip threads! A 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone (better than any penetrating oil) down the plug holes would be a good idea just as Steve mentioned (yes, Marvel is great stuff too) I don't know why he mentioned "major" work on the YH carbs?? I too have a 312 with the YH's! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-11-2014 at 4:17am
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Pete, Something tells me you aint going to put gas to the carbs and have them purring away. At the least, I'm guessing the YH's are going to have to be taken apart and cleaned. And more than likely they will need a rebuild to get them back in shape. My 62 Classic has a freshly built 312 that HAD the yh's. Gary H (remember him?) started to convert it to a 4bbl but never got the job finished. Thats when I bought the boat.  . ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Hussler
Date Posted: April-11-2014 at 3:08pm
| That motor looks locked up tight. If you have access to a video probe I would check inside the chambers before your spray in oil or try to turn it over. If it does turn over and your cylinder walls are all rusted your doing more harm than good |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-11-2014 at 9:22pm
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Steve, So, as I understand you, you consider a carb rebuild "major" work? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-11-2014 at 11:00pm
Actually,I did not say a carb rebuild is "major" work. If you look back, what I actually said was...
The carbs would probably be one of the smallest problems of getting the Classic back on water. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: vee
Date Posted: April-12-2014 at 2:58pm
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i checked the oil and it does have oil and water in it. i looked over it really good this morn and its got its ups and downs.. the top of the boat is spider cracked with moss growing in some areas but the bottom is suprizingly firm. i think its a parts boat at this point unless someone speaks up soon. ill post it for sale for a bit and see how it does but im still not sure how rare this boat is. does anyone have a pic of this boat restored or original. ------------- thanks |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-12-2014 at 3:37pm
You can go to the diary section and enter "Classic" for a search. Be cautious about what is original. Some are not! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-12-2014 at 4:23pm
| Not rare, especially in the shape yours is in, but a nice boat nonetheless. There's 2 people on CCF that have restored boats as bad as yours. |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: April-13-2014 at 3:42pm
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Michael asked me to post some more pics of this: http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344384-1_zps17882933.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344390-1_zpsd87b168d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344391-1_zps42eb5a96.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344378-1_zpsb9302cf4.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344376-1_zpsc576158d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344380-1_zps12c28a9c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344372-1_zps2055dc65.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/jtfila/media/1965%20CC%20Classic/344383-1_zps494f7e4c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-13-2014 at 4:40pm
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Jeff, Thanks for posting the pictures for Michael. Yup, that hull has been out in the weather for some time. Michael, considering the cracking in the gel, restoring the hull would be a MAJOR project with a total down to the glass and then a gel job. I'm reluctantly agreeing parting it out!  Did you get the engine to turn over? Why is the front timing cover and starboard manifold plate off?------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: April-13-2014 at 9:06pm
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i hope the timing cover isnt off to drain the water out. the one thing about the boat is that it does look to be pretty complete you could probably as said above get some decent $ for parts. ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |