1970 Separator
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Topic: 1970 Separator
Posted By: brit01
Subject: 1970 Separator
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:00pm
| Hello. We have a 1970 Separator that has been in the family for a long time, we know it's a 'special' boat but nothing about whether there are buyers for it or it's value. Yes, we're thinking (repeat, thinking!) about parting with our much loved bat-boat! Motorbikes have taken over the garage. It is baby blue, V8 351 Ford-Holman/Moody. Re-worked engine, was last hauling across the water 2 summers ago. Now the V drive needs work. Anyway, the interior may be a little rough but it's still a boat that makes the traffic stop on the way to the lake!! Does anyone have any knowledge of boats like ours? Many thanks. |
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:20pm
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Hi Brit,
Don't know how much lurking you've done around this site or if you just found us. There are a few members with Separators here, but as you can imagine, not too many. Mike Thrower has one down in SC, and Jeff Connors in MI(?) (connorsons) has three or four in various states of restoration. Right now he is working on restoring an I/O version. He has a complete v-drive in very good condition and one or two other v-drives waiting on restoration. I know of one of his, personally, because one member told me about finding it in the Maine woods. I went to check it out and was seriously thinking about it but then decided to let Jeff have it. There was one other barn find separator a few years ago. The guy was going to redo it, but quickly lost interest and we never heard from him or about the boat again. He was seriously out of line with his asking price ($12,000) Can't really help you with the value. Jeff could. I know the one in maine was a complete redo so that was under a grand. The http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=369&sort=&pagenum=1 - one he got from Florida that was redone,I dont recall what he paid. There is a market for them. Some folks dont care for them, but those that do, (like me) really like them. They are not regarded as great ski boats, because they are a little slow out of the hole and the rear engine causes a larger wake, but they are still cool boats. If I had to guess the value of a 70 separator that needs v-drive work and an interior, I might say around 5-ish,000, but that is just a guess on my part, others with more knowledge may correct me. The rest of the condition, hull, motor, trailer would affect that. There is an absolutely spotless, albiet unoriginal bright yellow painted, Torino in Maine for $9,500 which I think in quite optimistic, tho a separator might have a slight primium over the torino due to the unique bat boat windshields. First rule around here, we love pics, if you could post some, that would be great. What part of the country are you in? Welcome to CCF. You found the best place to have this discussion. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:22pm
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Sounds like a nice boat. Post some pictures. There are several guys here with Separators that will chime in soon. ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:28pm
| Hi, thanks for your reply. I haven't done much looking around the site, knew about it because my husband found it some time ago. Yes, you are quite right I should post pics, I have some fab ones of Dave driving it. We are in St Louis and used to take the bat boat to Table Rock Lake. We're not looking to win the lottery if we sell the boat, but do want to be educated sellers. |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:41pm
| stupid question - how do I post my pictures? |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-04-2011 at 11:59pm
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Posting pics:
Either directly from your hard drive using these instructions: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23667&title=need-help-posting-pictures-here-it-is - from hard drive Or from photobucket, using these: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5142&title=how-to-post-pictures-using-photobucket - photobucket ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 1:38am
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Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 1:47am
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:46am
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OK, I'll take it.
Very cool. Too bad, you missed the deadline for this year's calendar submittals by a few weeks. Your boat, but I think I would think twice about selling it. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 12:04pm
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i would keep it too. you will never be able to replace that one ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 2:51pm
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Brit, welcome to the site !! Awesome boat Post your story and more photos in the Diaries section. Mine is a 1971 with the holman moody 351 I am slowly restoring this boat. Is yours the original gel coat color ?
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 2:59pm
very cool boat! love the pictures!  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 3:03pm
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SWEEEEET!!!
I'm with Larry and Peter, I don't think I'd be able to sell that. Very cool boat! I love those dueling windshields. ------------- bring the ruckus http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5347" rel="nofollow - 2000 Pro Air |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 3:37pm
I am guessing so, as it is a twin to the very sad one in Maine that Jeff picked up. (that I now have second thoughts about letting go) 
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19893&KW=maine&PN=1&title=heading-to-maine - Jeff's Maine Boat ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
nautique frk wrote:Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 7:15pm
| That is a neat boat. High on the "cool" factor. Good luck with your decision. |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 7:18pm
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Very nice!! ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 9:08pm
| Brit, I'm one of the few people that is not a big fan of that boat, but had I seen your pictures a few years ago, the one in Maine would be in my yard right now! Think real hard on it before you let it go. |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:07pm
| The boat is the Holman/Moody version and it does have the original gel paint. Thanks to everyone for the kind comments about our bat-boat. Now we have some thinking to do!! |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:12pm
One more picture just for the fun of it ..
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Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:26pm
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cue the Godfather... ------------- bring the ruckus http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5347" rel="nofollow - 2000 Pro Air |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:48pm
OK, all the pictures were good, but that one especially deserved to have the size adjusted so it could be more fully appreciated. Again, too bad about that whole calendar thing.
 ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:49pm
I don't like blue boats or H&M's  I vote to keep it.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 10:54pm
| Thanks for that - I couldn't work out how to size adjust the photos! |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:07pm
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I used to take care of your boat in the mid to late '70's.
Unless there are two identical Baby Blue Bat Boats in MO. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:29pm
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You may send a couple of the guys on this board to the cardiac unit with these pics. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:47pm
Only because they are thinking how much dough they put into their boats to get them to perform like that and they still won't, and I am guessing this one is doing it straight from the factory. Brit hasn't mentioned top speed, and I realize it would probably be a speedo number, but I'd still be curious. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:56pm
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Great picture. One of my first Correct craft encounters was with a Torino while my brother and I were learning to paddle our new canoe. Just courious as to where the Maine one was located. I looked back in some of the old posts and is looks like it was near my camp on Mousam Lake. I looked at the yellow one on Rt109 in Acton and it is just too expensive. Funy, I drove down the road a little bit and came across the 1974 Skier that is being parted out on this web. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-05-2011 at 11:58pm
| It was on Wilson Lake. It was in the woodsfor at least a few years. |
Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 12:38am
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Wow it was really close. I wonder if it was near the Bart Simpson Statue houe? LOL. There was a red painted Mustang(?) near the
Wilson lake boat ramp right off Rt 109 that just disappeared. Maybe we should create a thread like the interesting Craigslist finds and call it Correct Crafts In Yards. If I thought I could afford this Separator I would make an offer. I'm waiting to see what Craig at the old NECC does with the avacodo Green Separator. They told me that they are going to be working on both of them this winter. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 12:47am
| I believe the same guy owned the Mustang. If you drove down the dirt road next to where the Mustang was parked, the Torino was parked not even 100 yards away in the woods. That Mustang was parked next to the road for at least 2 years. I've just been getting acquainted with that area in the past few years. Lots of little lakes and old boats in the yards. |
Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 1:06am
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I didn't inquire about the Mustang because it was painted. Hence I guessed it had a hard life. There is a 60's 18 ft Correct Craft not far away that was covered untill this last tropical storm that shredded the blue tarp. I quickly took a look and the front seats are not original. Everything else looks to be there. I took a picture with my phone and there is a sold sign on the house across the street. Not sure who owns the land that the boat sits on. Anyone interested? The boat has been sitting there covered since I can remember 10 to 13 yrs. Sorry if we are going off the thread/s topic ------------- |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 1:20am
Hahahaha. He's been saying that for years. Probably not going to happen this year either. Yeah, get going on that thing would you Craig , make a liar outta me. I hear that boat flies, but it takes a half mile to get on plane....cough,cough
The yellow Torino for sale on RT.109 belongs to Bob Torno of 'TORNO'S ARCTIC CAT' fame. He is on Upper Mousam but that boat hasn't been in the water for years.I have enjoyed more than one frosty beverage while cruising the lake in that rig. He owns the green Malibu Corvette boat that is for sale there as well.
I'm with the guys saying this. Those things dont come along very often in that condition. If you dont "need" to sell it,but arent going to use it you may be better off to put it up and slowly address the things needed to get it at 100%. Doesnt look like it needs much, and if you get the urge later to own another Seperator like the "One that was in your family for a very long time" you may be left with the emptiness of knowing you let that one go......just sayin 
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 8:48am
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Brit,
I sure hope you decide to keep it. The "cool" factor is way up there!! FYI, we had one on our lakes as well as a Donzi sweet 16. The Donzi would out run it but not by much. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 12:09pm
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I'm also with the guys here.
Very cool boat! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 10:23pm
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DrCC: wow that's very cool, I bet it's the same boat! Dave says that would probably have been right before his Uncle bought the boat.
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Posted By: brit01
Date Posted: December-06-2011 at 10:29pm
On the day the photos were taken Dave reckons we realistically got 50mph and I can't tell you all the mechanical reasons he told me as to why there was definitely 'more in the tank' but it wasn't happening that day! I have skied behind the boat many times and it pulls me out of the water, on one ski, no problem. |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-07-2011 at 12:58am
| Ok here we go! im interested in your boat, call me on the price and lets talk. ive spent the last couple of years researching the separators torinos and spoilers!call if i can help 269 506 1249 jeff |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: December-07-2011 at 2:20am
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It appears to have been very well kept.
I remember installing new rudder packing, probably in '78 or '79. That's the reason my current boat does not have an engine over the rudder. Go Jeff! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-07-2011 at 8:41am
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-07-2011 at 11:24pm
any tips other than a skinny guy?
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Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: December-08-2011 at 12:38am
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I just lay a folded shipping quilt over the engine, and get as comfortable as possible. Then just get used to the idea of beimg upside-down for a while.
And don't lay on the throttle cable. Or, you could use a 135lb. kid, and just stand there and bark orders. |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: December-08-2011 at 1:17am
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You guys a too funny! Seriously cool boat. The money you are going to get out of it is surely not going to be equal to the cool points you get just owning it and maybe getting it onto the water once a year. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-08-2011 at 9:26am
It's about a bad as getting to the tilt motor on an old OMC outdrive! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-08-2011 at 11:38pm
Ill get a good quilt  that,s gonna suck!
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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:54pm
Spoke with the owner last night! we are going to talk some more and try to make a deal i hope! boat sounds like it needs stringers and floor  do to previous repairs, v drive sounds to be bad do to water intrusion internally. been sitting like tat for 2 yrs. the manifolds are good {no welding} motor has ben frozen and new block installed, hull is free of stress cracks some dings along edge. but gotta love the potential. will keep ya posted!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 4:25pm
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Are you trying to corner the market Jeff ??? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 4:58pm
picture this 3 separators high speed pass side by side! nice calander pic. gonna need 2 drivers any takers? 
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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 5:06pm
| Hay Bob [separator] tell me about your boats jeff |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 5:49pm
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oh, I love v-drives, a 1:1 is a weekend in the Pokono's, a v-drive is a trip to Europe...tread wisely,
put it to you this way a new BW v-drive retail is 8200.00 ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 5:51pm
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use it as buying power ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 7:31pm
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OMG! 8200 bones Eric do ya know if you can just buy the gears? the sep i baught in main came with an extra v drive case, but rusty gears the freeport might become a donor boat.HA HA!!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 9:11pm
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When you want to be like a Hunt brother and corner the market,you gotta pay ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 9:25pm
I liked that!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 9:56pm
Jeff weren't you looking for a horn? Would this work?
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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 10:02pm
| Gary! what are thay off of thay look close to what i had in mind? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 10:22pm
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call me if your not busy- two two four eight two eight two nine two six ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-30-2012 at 12:38am
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Up date! owner just called and said he is going to sell boat to me! will know more details in the next few weeks. will keep ya posted. jeff
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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: January-30-2012 at 1:13am
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Dang Jeff talk about cornering the market! Gonna have to change your handle name to Sepracons! ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 9:46pm
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New Update! finalized deal on the blue sep, sent down payment today, any body coming this way from MO?
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Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 11:37pm
| Congrats, 2 Seps, and a Mustang, correct me on your inventory? Good thing the new barn is big! |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 9:16am
Hello doc! here we go, 5 separators 1 70 3 72,s 1 75i/o 71 mustang , 67 mustang, 77 martinique parts boat, 74 southwind H/M powered jet drive  and my boys freeport v drive. plus 7 other yard ornaments, one pile that is leaving today! was a doner for the sep project 
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Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 10:54am
| Sign for the new barn, CCC, Coldwater Correct Craft, or Connorsons Correct Craft. |
Posted By: Lakeview
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 12:08pm
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Good Luck with the Baby Blue "Beauty" Jeff.When she arrives home shoot me an eMail-I can help you out with any V drive issues-also want to talk to you about your V drive 72 separator. Jim ------------- Lakeview 1992 Barefoot Nautique 1967 Barracuda SS 1967 Chris Craft Cavalier |
Posted By: Bladezilla
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 1:57pm
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We had one of these speedy odd balls on a small lake in northern Indiana in the mid 1970's. Top end, tuned, 1/2 quart low on oil, stripped with just a driver on a slick lake was 62 mph. The 70s was the era of the almighty JET boat. The Jolly Rogers, Check Mates and such with their 455 ci engines and shallow draft were the king of most lakes, but not our lake. They quickly learned that from a roll they had no chance so they started wanting a standing start.An old friend and devoted jet boat fan just knew he could beat that odd looking bubble windshielded deep draft with a 351 C. After several failed attempts he was going for broke. He pulled his boat out of the water, cleaned and waxed the hull, tuned up that gigantic 455, installed a brand new impeller, filled it with primo gas, cleaned out anything that wasn't necessary and sent his brother over to get me, literally, the minute he got it back in the water. It was a crappy chilly, overcast, drizzly day and I wanted to wait but he'd have no part of that. Plus, the lake was deserted. I fired up and went over.The sound it made was amazing and when I reved her people on the other end of the lake knew what boat it was.I pulled up for the contest and Mike was chomping at the bit. The confident smile on his face was blinding. He KNEW today was his day. He wanted a standing start, naturally, since his boat drafted a third what the Correct Craft did. And so it went. He got everything he wanted the way he wanted at top form. We were racing pretty much the length of the lake, around the ski jump on the far end and back. Out of the hole he took me by a good 8 boats. He looked back at me with jubilation and laughed his fist pumping butt off,.......but, up on plane, I was gaining. The worried look on his face when he saw I was reeling him in was frantic and priceless. Like he was looking for the nitrous switch he didn't have. About half way to the ski jump I overtook him and gave his a massive shot of tail spray. Ended up beating him by a quarter LAKE length. It was a fun boat that didn't really look fast. Somebody told me if I put on a "2 blade chrome speed prop" it would improve performance but that made no sense and I trusted Correct Craft to do the right thing. It had worked so far. The boat eventually ended up in the Florida keys at a ski school. Every blue one I see, which isn't many, I wonder if that's her. Post more pictures guys!! ------------- www.nicnac.net |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 7:26pm
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Where the heck has Jeff been??? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: September-23-2014 at 9:51pm
| Awesome story and a good question! I miss seeing the bubble windshields. |