Shaft, Strut Alignment Video
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Topic: Shaft, Strut Alignment Video
Posted By: Keith
Subject: Shaft, Strut Alignment Video
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 11:40am
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There is a new video on the http://www.youtube.com/user/CorrectCraftFan - CorrectCraftFan channel on YouTube - Inboard Shaft Alignment - 101 featuring the expert instruction of Peter Brainard as presented at the 2010 CorrectCraftFan.com Midwest Reunion.
Look for more instructional videos coming soon. Thank you, Keith ------------- Former: /diaries/details.asp?ID=6170" rel="nofollow - 97 Sport Nautique 1994 Ski Nautique 86 Silver Nautique 79 Mustang |
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Posted By: MAN - GA
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 12:26pm
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Nice video and hats off to Pete for putting this together it really brings all the written narrative through posts/pictures into perspective when it is on video.
I do have one question though when re-installing the coupler on the shaft last fall mine has some slop and is not as tight on the shaft using heat shrink method as it was before. Getting the coupler off was a real PITA, but now it will come off with very minimal resistance. Is this going to be a problem and basically rely on the key to hold it together and if so should I just get a dual tapered shaft? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 1:05pm
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Keith,
That's for getting the vid up on site. I know it will help many. Mark, A loose coupling on the shaft isn't good. It will fret (wear out material) to the point where it will pound out the set screws as well as the key/keyway. If you think about it some, every revolution the shaft will want to go from one side to the other in the bore of the coupling. Make sure you have a safety collar on the shaft just in case it comes out. How did you end up with the loose fit? Did you get a new shaft and was it smaller than the old? The proper way to do a new shaft R&R is to get a new coupling half if the fit is off. The coupling will come in on the small side of the bore and then it's bored for the press/shrink fit to the exact diameter of the new shaft. The ARE double tapers are nice!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: MAN - GA
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 1:30pm
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I don't understand what the "safety collar" is on the shaft - I have the set screws in recess, key fits tight, and set screws are wired together.
I pulled the shaft to replace strut and why I was at it I checked shaft straightness which is less than maximum allowed tolerance fo .003 runout. For re-assembly I cleaned everything including coupler and had the coupler face machined true (not the bore). The shaft and coupler are the same ones I disassembled it was just real difficult to remove and reasonably easy to reinstall the coupler on shaft |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 1:52pm
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Mark,
The safety collar is a shaft "set collar" that goes on the shaft just forward of the packing gland. (someone will have a picture). It's there just in case the shaft comes out of the coupling. It prevents the prop from hitting the rudder. When you had the coupling face trued up, did they by chance measure the bore and shaft? Keep a close eye on it and make sure your alignment is good. That will really help. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: MAN - GA
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 3:06pm
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got the point on the safety collar - I wasn't thinking further down the shaft toward the log I was thinking it was something on the coupler
no machine shop did not measure the bore/shaft diameter I didn't think to ask them to do that I am definately going to get the safety collar and will re-evaluate the coupler attachment and consider just getting a double tapered shaft |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: April-13-2011 at 4:59pm
Great video Pete..  ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 10:53am
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This is a great video but could be edited in smaller ones for each specific issue. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 11:40am
Not a bad idea. I could do that fairly easy. Probably would be a bit more helpful broken out since we can't do chapters in YouTube. Give me a few days. -Keith ------------- Former: /diaries/details.asp?ID=6170" rel="nofollow - 97 Sport Nautique 1994 Ski Nautique 86 Silver Nautique 79 Mustang |
Luchog wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 1:51pm
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Keith,
The idea of breaking up the video into sections isn't bad as long as the complete process is conveyed. It should be understood that alignment really starts at the strut and then forward. Luciano, Do you suffer from ADD? I do!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 3:16pm
You guys can't last 14 minutes??  ------------- |
Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 5:24pm
This is a great idea! I can't wait for a chapter on wet sanding, polishing, and fixing gel coat. Well done! Great speech Pete! Good paced and tone. I really like the visual aid. 
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Posted By: malibud
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 6:32pm
| good job Pete Its good to put a face with a screen name, though you don't look like what I had pictured in my head |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 7:04pm
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Soon to be a YouTube sensation:
"Hands on Shaft Clinic starring Peter" ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 7:17pm
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I wondered how long until someone went there ... Figures it would be Quinner.
-Keith ------------- Former: /diaries/details.asp?ID=6170" rel="nofollow - 97 Sport Nautique 1994 Ski Nautique 86 Silver Nautique 79 Mustang |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 7:20pm
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You look like movie star. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 7:37pm
Dan, Thanks! Does anyone really look like the "picture" you develop in their mind?? The same is true via the phone. I remember (way back in my single days) talking to a girl for years over the phone and always thinking about wanting to meet her. Well, that day did come and.........   ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 9:33pm
Pete I have been waiting for a comment on Jeans and long sleeves in the middle of your summer. 
Now that you are a celebrity and the face of CCfan we will need to get you more marketable. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: April-14-2011 at 10:09pm
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look at the way he handles wood... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: flipflop
Date Posted: April-15-2011 at 2:10pm
| Thanks Pete. |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: April-15-2011 at 4:55pm
and you look Bored!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-16-2011 at 11:51am
Look's like a movie star? I thought he already was....... Wasn't he in "Back to the Future" 3 times?  ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-16-2011 at 1:02pm
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oop's ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-16-2011 at 1:03pm
He is Hollywood,and he's hanging around to answer your calls
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-16-2011 at 10:58pm
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I've got to have Keith lock up this thread!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-17-2011 at 1:52am
WHAT???? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-18-2011 at 1:22am
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You can do my V drive next, and we'll set it up as a PPV movie for the guys at PN. Just think of all the money you'll make, you can step up to a boat made in 70's possibly even the 80's.
On a bit more serious note, I found with a bit of thinking and C clamps you can move the engine side to side. I haven't tried it on the Excel, but it worked great on my Commander. Once you get everything in place it's just a matter of 1/4 turns and it straightens right up without a bunch of over shoot. Didn't find any tricks to the up and down, I liked the counting turns and doing front and back. Not thinking about it like that is probably why it took a while. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-18-2011 at 9:12am
Don, It's a great thought but not needed. The alignment principle is the same on a V and the year doesn't matter. The solid coupling, although not good from a mechanical engineering standpoint, has been used since day one in the boat industry. The only difference on a V is getting down to the coupling. It's not fun!!!!
BTW, when the tech talk was in the planning stages, we discussed a members boat we could use. I said it really didn't matter as long as I didn't have to use a V !!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-18-2011 at 1:47pm
| You missed the point, I was just trying to get the free alignment check because of the difficulty. By the way, I looked at the PCM motor mounts a little harder last night and I don't think the C clamp trick would work. |
Posted By: moonsky
Date Posted: April-19-2011 at 5:28am
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This is a great idea! I can't wait for a chapter on wet sanding, polishing, and fixing gel coat. Well done! Great speech Pete! Good paced and tone. I really like the visual aid. ------------- http://www.buypdjewelry.com/ - Pandora Charms http://www.buypdjewelry.com/C-31-b0 - Cheap Pandora Bracelets http://www.buypdjewelry.com/C-36-b0 - Pandora Ring Charm |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: April-19-2011 at 8:04pm
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Whaat..?? Nobody filmed Steve's wetsanding clinic...?
BTW, look how concentrated I listened to every word Pete said... Great clinic Pete!! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Wacko
Date Posted: April-19-2011 at 9:55pm
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Very good video. Looking forward to any others added
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-19-2011 at 10:05pm
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You guys need to come to Green Lake this summer, Pete's live Shows are way better and you don't need a fistful of singles to get his attention
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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: April-19-2011 at 10:15pm
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Pete I think you should come to the New England reunion this yr and you can film a safety video driving my boat and show why seat belts and air bags are needed in the boat industry ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-20-2011 at 12:03pm
Not when you use the boat as intended and designed. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-20-2011 at 12:16pm
Hollywood, These boats were named after muscle cars and came with High Performance warning stickers. I'd say they're being used as intended! No different than dropping a Hemi in a Dodge Dart or suping up a Buick engine in a Skylark, (if souping up a Buick could have even been done). ------------- |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-20-2011 at 1:31pm
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Just don't give any children a ride in your over powered 16' boats. ------------- |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: April-20-2011 at 8:35pm
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gee thanks for the great advice i never would have thought of that. I am just an idiot gear head . I bet your a barrel of laughs at the family gatherings ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-20-2011 at 9:03pm
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Peter, Hollywood's alright. He'd just rather go fast hanging off the back with no skis on.
I used to have a 49 Ford F1 with a 300 hp 327 and used to push it well beyond its intended limit. Never a problem as long as I didn't have to brake or turn. ------------- |
Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: April-21-2011 at 2:00am
Steve's and RJ's clinics were recorded and I'll be posting them shortly. All great performances and very helpful for site members. -Keith ------------- Former: /diaries/details.asp?ID=6170" rel="nofollow - 97 Sport Nautique 1994 Ski Nautique 86 Silver Nautique 79 Mustang |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-21-2011 at 1:42pm
Maybe they could get a sign like the one you have on your boat "Boyz Ride Free" ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: April-21-2011 at 1:56pm
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Kind of to Hollywood's point
Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this. Doctor: Well, stop doing that. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-21-2011 at 3:10pm
I'm certain there is photographic evidence that is in fact YOUR slogan. ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: April-21-2011 at 4:24pm
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jackiewdeen
Date Posted: May-04-2011 at 3:06pm
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Man-Ga,
I am in LaGrange. At White Lake Mini on the 30th April, I learned tghat you deffinately don"t want any slop. My shaft came out at about 40+ and the resulting jerk to the left and extremely quick atop, I went over the side. Luckily, boats can be fixed. My bruises and charlie horse will take time. Where near you is there someone qualified to replace shafts and/or do shaft alignments? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5597" rel="nofollow - 75 Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-04-2011 at 3:25pm
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Jackie,
From your first post about the problem:
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