1989 Ski Nautique Rebuild
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Topic: 1989 Ski Nautique Rebuild
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Subject: 1989 Ski Nautique Rebuild
Date Posted: August-24-2009 at 11:47pm
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I have been following the site now for a couple years but never jumped on due to log in issue. I own an 88 BFN and a 89 SN. Rebuilt the BFN last year (floors, stringers, paint....) and now am working on an 89 that I picked up for $500 last year. Boat was complete less the engine. I have talk to a couple of the faithful memebers here like Greg who did the BFN last year as well as Eric about a transmission rebuild for the 89. One of those guys who never learns about building or rebuilding boats. This is my 7th so far. Grew up on the water and working in marinas in Palm Beach County FL so I guess I'll never get it out of the system. I love looking at Pics and reading stories so thought I should share here. I post on a site called bateau. I built one of there boats two years ago and they are A+ for knowledge and first class materials. Anyway you will see that I am not a purest but build them to fit how I like/use them. Here are some links to the two boats
89 Ski nautique rebuild==>http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18074 Here is a picture of the Ski Nautique 
New fiber glass stingers for the SN 
Mold that I made the stringers on 
This is the Barefooter 
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: August-25-2009 at 12:07am
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jim welcome aboard...I guess your are familiar then with the guys that regularily post here!!! they are all great people... as for your boats come on and share some more pics.. I like that bare bfn..no upholstery or carpet to worry about!!! and I bet with the extra weight off its a fast boat!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: August-25-2009 at 12:14am
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Clean looking resto! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Waldo
Date Posted: August-25-2009 at 10:05pm
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Awesome pics Jim. You have a lot of talent.
Waldo |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-25-2009 at 10:53pm
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Very nice work, and yes more pics! Looks like a very user friendly set up. Let's hear a little more about that stringer mold and how you built it. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: August-25-2009 at 11:01pm
I agree with you greg... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
BuffaloBFN wrote:Posted By: pwningjr
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 1:01am
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That boot stripe on the BFN looks *awesome*.
EDIT: I'll 3rd Greg's "Let's hear about the stringers!" ------------- Jay "Proud to be a geek" Big Heavy (stephan): One can't always be perfect when water dancing on your shred stick. |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 2:12am
| Guys thank you. The stinger mold was real straight forward. Just two pieces of MDC doubled (1-1/2" thick) put together to make a 13' long piece. Then laminated on the sides with gloss black Mica (black allows the air in the layup to show) round the edges over with a 3/4" router, wax the exposed MDC and the mica, spray a couple coats of PVA (releasing adjent) and let it dry. Then using Polyester resin build up 3-4 plys of 12 or 17oz biaxial glass. Let it cure for 4-6 hours and popo it off. Works great. I then foam filled the stringer for sound deadning. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 8:27am
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Good work Day_Trip hope you hang around with us. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 10:05am
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Jim,
Glad you got the log in problem figured out. Welcome to posting. I too find your glass stringers interesting and have a couple of questions. When you glassed them into the hull, how many more layers of glass did you add? Did you use a higher weight of foam for filling the insides? The reason I ask is I'm wondering about the strength lost without the wood. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 1:35pm
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Being epoxy resin better for bonding and strenght ..why didn´t you use epoxy over poly to do the stringers? just wondering? ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 1:50pm
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What's that thing on the starboard side of the motorbox? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 2:15pm
I looked at that a few times as well. Blended in so well, that, at first, I thought it was part of the boat. On closer inspection, it looks like a bottle of soap or cleaner. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 2:18pm
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Ha, that's what it must be. If it was part of the boat, I'd hate falling on it in some rollers. lol
Fusilli Jerry. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 5:06pm
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Glad you all like the stringers and i am happy to share anything.
The foam was there just to help hold the shape until they were glassed into the boat. I in th area of the engine (7') I used mahogany to act as a solid core. What I did then is mark the mounting hole locatation that go through the stringers and drilled them out to 1-1/2". Then I filled those holes back in with milled fiberglass and epoxy. That gives me a solid glass/epoxy media to drill my mounting bolts through. I will have access to the back side of the stringer in the engine mount area so I will through bolt only, no lags. This will eliminate the chance for rot. The stringers are epoxied into the boat with am minumum of three additional plys of glass on the outer stringer and on the main (inners) there are as many as 8 layers in the engine or maximum stress areas. More to come when I get home. Jim |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 7:47pm
I'm curious on the polyester over the epoxy too? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: August-26-2009 at 11:25pm
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For making the shape the strength was not a big concern. Once it was glassed in the boat all I use is epoxy. The amount of glass I use once it is in the boat is strong enough in itself.
Polyester is much faster to mold with. Here is a bunch more pics in cse you didn't link over to the other site. Thanks for looking! 
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Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 1:23am
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Guys,
Put up several pics on this site if you are interested. http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18074&p=183425#p183425 - link to nautique rebuild Here is a couple though 
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 1:41am
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Looks sharp!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: September-12-2009 at 5:36pm
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Day trip,
That looks like pretty sturdy blower hose, where did you get it. I'm getting close to that point and I don't want to put the crappy dryer type in. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-12-2009 at 6:35pm
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this is the way a boat should be built if you put originality aside, very practical and built to use, im one for originality to a point right along with Pete, on this one it was built to pull and a very clean build, to me it says one thing.....lets pull some skiers and use the boat.....if we scratch it we can fix it....i would bet your like me and dont know what a can of wax looks like...no pun, if its not broke you dont fix it.. A plus from me ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-12-2009 at 11:02pm
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I used a hose that is used for dust collect/fume venting. It has a plastic spiral reinforcement in it instaed of metal so it will stay in tack. I used it in the barefooter and it works great. I alos used it as the conduit for the control cables and wiring as well as the blower hose. This is the link to the company. ==> http://www.blastgateco.com/Flex-Hose.htm - blastgate company link I bought 50' of the GPE Econo and it was strong and it was about the right amoun tot do all the above.
Eric, Thanks for the note. I do like them simple. I like to make it as easy as posible to keep them clean. Not to worried about original. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: September-12-2009 at 11:08pm
| Thanks |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-13-2009 at 11:43pm
Foamed in the battery box, bilge vents, and rigging chases this weekend. Getting ready to put the foward sole peice down.
This is the front sole. The Plywood that I use is merranti (hydrocore). Built a boat from scratch using this and it is nice and extreamly stable. You can see the hatch I made so I can use the bilge in front of the engine to store rope and anchor. 
Made a mold for the glove box lid. Worked good. 
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Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-20-2009 at 12:14pm
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Guys,
I have posted some updated photos here ==> http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18074&start=20 - Link to Ski Nautique rebuild . If you are interested this is a link to all the boat photos in my gallary==> http://gallery.bateau2.com/index.php?cat=14945 - Photos from DAYTRIP |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-20-2009 at 11:41pm
Installed the front section of the cocpit sole today.
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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: September-21-2009 at 12:00am
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Looking good. Like the hatch idea. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: September-21-2009 at 7:07am
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Day-Trip nice work thanks for the link, keep the post coming.
------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-21-2009 at 5:04pm
| Thanks Guys. The hatch will be great for anchor and rope storage. |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: September-21-2009 at 6:18pm
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Looking good..What kind of seats are you using? not the oem, as i see a different hole pattern..
btw happy b-day ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: September-21-2009 at 7:23pm
| Thanks Kapla! I am using seats from Veada==> http://veada.com/product/22_9-Helm-Seats/255--200-Series-Helm-Seat.html - veada seats and the bases are Garelick ==>. http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=75090 - Pedestool |
Posted By: YooperSully
Date Posted: October-30-2009 at 2:28pm
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I like the idea of fiberglass stringers/no wood. How solid are these? If you could leave your existing stringer in until these were fabbed up, you could slip them over the existing and trim until they fit like a glove. Would some fiberglass rods end to end and some type of matting and epoxy work as a slush for the inside of these? ------------- 87' 2001 |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: November-07-2009 at 11:18am
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Sorry just saw this. How solid is relative. stand alone they are flexible. As you start to glass them in the hull as well as tie in bulkheads and the floor they are extremely rigid. It is exactly how an airplane wing is built with thin metal sections but will carry very high loads. The glass thickness on the stringers before they were installed was three plys of biax on the outters and 3-6 on the inners. More layers near the center where the moment(loading)is the greatest. Once you tape them in and glass the floor down you will add 3-4 more layers on all of them.
The real issue is where you need a hard point to bolt to or through. A good example is at the engine mounts. At that location I actually used some mahogany that my dad had laying around. Trying to use the existing stringers as a mold would be practicaly impossible for several reasons. I would not be afraid to use wood. In fact it is much easier and faster. If you seal it with two coats of quality epoxy and take extreme care in drilling holes or screewing to it you will have no problems. As Pete mentioned in your other post everywhere you intend to drill through, drill and oversized hole and fill it with thickened epoxy and then redrill with the correct sized hole and it will never be a problem. I did my Barefooter that way. |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: December-28-2009 at 12:17am
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Some progress shots,
Barrier coating the bottom with epoxy and graphite 
Just painted the topsides yesterday. Rub rail should go on this week. 
ONE OF THE BAREFOOTER FOR GOOD MEASURE 
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Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-28-2009 at 4:48pm
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Lookin' good there Jim!
Keep the pics coming! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-30-2009 at 5:41pm
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Jim great work don’t tease us let us know the name of the paint you used, and how you found using it. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: December-31-2009 at 1:18pm
| Hi UK. The paint I used is called Alexseal. It is a urethane like Awlgrip. Very easier to use. I sprayed it but it can be rolled and tipped if you don't want to spray it. I also used a very cheap ($35) gravity feed spray gun from Harbor Frieght and it came out just fine. It is pricey but the durability and shine retention is great. The bottom is just epoxy with Graphite in it (30% by volume). makes a very tough finish. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: January-01-2010 at 8:50am
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Thanks Jim had a look for Alexseal,its available in the UK thanks for passing on your knowledge. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: March-21-2010 at 9:06pm
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Thought iwould post some updated photos. Progress wise I have the engine and tranny in which was somewhat of a task. I went from the 351 ford to a chevy 350. Also changed from the PCM tranny to a hurth 1.23-1 so I had some fit up to do but not much. I did have to widen the engine cover. I do have the pcm 1.23 if anyone is interested. It was under water in fresh water I am told. I did open it up to see what it looked like before I shipped to Eric for a rebuild and it looked fine. No signs of rust or broken parts. It never did go to Eric so it needs a rebuild.
Anyway as you can see ther is no carpet. I build molds and made diamond pattern non skid. Toltal pain so that check is in the box and it is non skid in the paint if I do this again. Does look really good though. I have poped a new dash pod, made out of fiberglass, using the old one. I don't want the dual speedos so I will install a built in GPS for speed. 
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Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: March-21-2010 at 9:44pm
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Nice sharp boat there Jim, if you have pictures of the engine and drive in the boat please post as I will be first fitting my Chevy & 1.23.1 soon.
Thanks Roger. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: March-21-2010 at 11:01pm
| I will post some photos for you no problem. What I found was that the front mounts fit perfectly. Now the hurth was 2.25" shorter to the coupling but the mounts were 3" farther aft. I actually cut the cradle behind the forward mounts and slide it aft about 3". Worked fine. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: March-21-2010 at 11:10pm
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Thanks Jim will look out for them.
Roger. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: March-22-2010 at 10:53pm
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Hey Roger,
Attached are a few shots from around the engine. Kind of dusty! If you need anything specifically just let me know. The front mounts are unmodified. The rears you can see are move back. This is an 89 so it has the header mounted right behind the engine and that did change alot because of the Hurth tranny. Had to offset the 4" tube to miss the tranny. Hope this helps and don't hesitate if you need any dimensions whatever. 
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Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: March-23-2010 at 8:30am
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Thanks Jim that's a big help, I see now how you got over the new drive into the boat and you have been making pipes too great work.
Just what I needed to push on with mine. Thanks again Roger. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: March-23-2010 at 11:33am
| No problem Roger. Do you need more photos around the exhaust area? If you are using the pcm tranny and the 89 exhaust there should be no mods required. The hurth is much wider that is what drove the 2.5" offset. I also had to put 4" to 3" transitions on for the riser difference, maybe that is what you mean? I bought them for $30 each. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: March-23-2010 at 12:48pm
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Jim,I don't have the same exhaust as you on mine,Im running one each side off some old Edelbrock,s M1 from USA EBay, its how you fitted your drive in, I may need to do the same and fab something up for my PCM 1.23.1 to fit along with some kind of cradle as the boat is pre cradle type.
Your mounts on the Hurth look like Stainless Steel to me. Thanks for your help I will take you up on it, Roger. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: June-27-2010 at 1:05am
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Guys,
Wanted to update you on my progress. The boat is on the water and runs great. I put a ACME 1442 on it and it is unreal! I am turning 5000 rpms and don't know how fast I am running yet but will next time I go out. I like the ski better than the footer! unreal performance. |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: June-27-2010 at 1:35pm
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good to hear!!
any pictures of the finished boat? ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: June-28-2010 at 10:01am
| Thanks Kapla, I'll take some and post them up. Still doing some finishing touches but 98% there. |
Posted By: akabulla
Date Posted: June-28-2010 at 12:27pm
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Looks great! Very impressive. Did you put a bulk head in place under the ski pole? All I saw was exposed foam.
I really like the idea of the hatch behind the ski pole. I wish I put one there because with the bulk head further back it is a bear to run any cables with the engine in. If I had a hatch I would have direct access to the bulkhead and the piping. Great job again! |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: June-29-2010 at 12:31am
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Akabulla,
The hatch works out great for access and anchor storage. Here is on pic of it in the water. I have the gas tank cover panel made just need to paint it. 
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Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: July-04-2010 at 1:18am
| Awsome. |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: July-04-2010 at 11:40am
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Thanks seacamper!
Just a update on the ACME 1442. three adults, full tank of gas, bimini top up, in salt water; 3000 rpms = 30 mph 4500 rpms = 44 mph wide open is still 5000 rpms, didn't go there last time do to traffic. |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: July-18-2014 at 9:21pm
| Thought I would post here that the nautique is for sale. Finished another rebuild and have to many boats. If anyone is interested please give me a call. Boat is in great condition. Jim. 561-719-0317. This is the craigslist post. http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/boa/4574069143.html |