Hurricane in Alabama
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Topic: Hurricane in Alabama
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Subject: Hurricane in Alabama
Date Posted: October-30-2008 at 9:01pm
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Someone should go take a look at this one. The ad is in the latest Rudder (ACBS magazine) The seller states it's a "project" boat and the chrome has been re plated. 327 (AMC) Graymarine. Claims to be the only one existing. He wants 5K. I have emailed him for more information.
email: tim@the-browns.org ph: 205-960-7111  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 12:35am
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Ooooohhhhhhh Mannnnnnnnnn ......
is that KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!! Any idea of the year? If the 327 is original, would have to be mid 50's or newer? Where did that drawing come from? Would love to see pics or more drawings! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 7:18am
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Steve,
Yesterday I neglected to look in our own diaries. I forgot he's in there!! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=359&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009 - Tim Browns Hurricane It's a 55. I just looked him up in the ACBS directory. The phone # (above post) is listed as a daytime. He also has his evening # in the directory: 205-956-9304 Dave, In Tim's diary, he states he spoke to a Jim Jettmore at the CC factory. Is he still around? What is his background? I'm asking just to find out if Jim was (is)well versed in the history of the Hurricane and to provide Tim with correct information. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 9:05am
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I just checked my home email and did get a responce from Tim. I asked him some questions regarding the bottom (5200?), originality and engine.
Here's his responce: "The original bottom, got stopped on it because of health. It's all original, the engine was replaced by the original owner, 6 with a Greymarine V-8 in 1958. The chrome has been replated. Tim Brown 3293 Hoot Owl Lane Irondale, AL 35210 Phone: 205-956-9304 Cell; 205-960-7111" Greg, He's on the NW side of Birmingham not to far from Atlanta!! How about a new woodworking project? Maybe Amy would like a wood boat? Billy, What about yourself? Reid, You need at least one wood boat in the fleet!! Sounds like it's going to need flipping and the bottom re worked. I can safely say that sitting in the barn for all the years that the bedding compound between the double hull has been completely dried out. Wood may be ok - it would be removing the outer planking to the waterline (all the bottom planks plus the one above the chine)and then rebedding it with 5200. Remember that CC was one of two boat manufacturers that double planked the hull sides as well as the bottom. (per Don Danenberg) The pictures don't show the deck but if covered, it should be ok. The hull sides look to be in decent shape but sides and deck would need to go down to bare wood. The engine not being original isn't that bad. The 58 Gray is "period" correct and would only be a 1 point deduction with the ACBS judging guidelines. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 11:53am
If it were in the 1-2k range, we'd be all over it. We'd really like to have a new project, though we have 1 yet to finish and I think we'll be holding on to hard cash until we see where the markets go. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
8122pbrainard wrote:Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 5:06pm
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Hmmm asking 5K paid 1100.....
Nice ROI if he gets 5K.... I'm with Greg....price is too high. ------------- |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 7:07pm
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Sounds like he did an aweful lot of replating. Regardless of what he paid the boat has a value, I dont know about 5 but then again I havent seen it. Sure arent a ton of double planked correct crafts around though. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-31-2008 at 10:22pm
Tim, How versed are you in the wood boat market? I ask because I have to disagree with your price comment. Keep in mind the asking price is never the sale price and regarding the ROI he bought it cheap as I don't feel the farmer really knew what he had. Joe is correct that there aren't many double plank CC's out there and I have a feeling the seller is correct that this is the only Hurricane still around. I took another look at the Rudders classifieds so I could give you a idea of asking prices. The 5K is the second to the cheapest listing. The next price up are several around 10K, then the 30K's and after that the prices "sky rocket" up to 110K. This Hurricane is actually fairly priced considering it's condition. Granted this boat does need work but not as much as you may think. Let me explain my comment on the bottom. Bottom repair/maintenance is very common with a double planked wood boat. Chris Craft recommended that refastening (larger and longer screws) may be needed every 5 years and that the outer planking be removed for a new canvas/bedding compound job every 10 years. Refinishing a wood boat is also considered a maintenance item. Now I certainly don't know for sure as I haven't see the boat but from the pictures it really looks it pretty decent shape. Stripping down to bare wood, staining, varnish/paint is needed but it's typically done every 20 years (to bare wood) or so depending on the usage. We do not know the condition of the engine but it does sound like it does have low hours and may be fine. I have emailed the seller asking him the engine condition. Joe's correct that the chrome being done needs to be considered. This is worth between $500 and $1000! Now it is true that CC's don't get the big $$ like other better know antique and classics but this boat is truly rare. A person putting in his own time and factoring in a fair wage to restore this boat will get a ROI! I wish I was in a position to grab this boat! Edit: I've been thinking about the dollars. Without a engine rebuild, I'd say that out of pocket you would need to put in a additional 2 to 3K on the bottom, refinish and upholstery. Then in todays market and considering it's a CC, I'll say it would be worth 20K min. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 12:32pm
This boat is sold, Thank you Pete. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 2:43pm
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Alan,
Sounds great! Keep in touch. Looks like I'm going to have to make a trip to Big Rock in the near future. I'm anxious to see it!! If you haven't gotten around to refinishing the garage door yet now you have a reason to do it. Practice!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 4:19pm
"Somones" a LUCKY DOG!  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 10:33pm
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Will it be at Green Lake in July? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 10:39pm
Not in 09, Too many projects before it. Hopefully 2010 but we'll see. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: November-01-2008 at 11:09pm
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Damn I want a ride, I think that will end up a stunningly good looking boat. A perfect executive cruiser, glad you ended up with it Alan...well if I couldn't have it anyway. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 8:21am
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Alan,
Heritage Harbor in Ottawa 2010! Brand new facility that the Blackhawk Chapter is just finishing up the negotiations on. We plan on making it bigger than our Lake Geneva show. Possibly the international in 11! Now that you are a owner of a boat made of a different material, and myself now membership chair of the chapter, I'm definitely going to have to talk to you!!! It's also a great group of people. Plan on getting yourself some Reed and Prince driver bits! I don't know of anyone still making the actual screw drivers still. I did have a Snap-on set but loaned them out and the rest is history. The set of screw drivers that is! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 8:27am
Pete, I motored through Heritage Harbor last time we were on that part of the river, that is going to be an impressive place. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 10:08pm
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Good to see it will be in good hands Alan. When you going to get it? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 11:12pm
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Nice move Alan. Make sure to document the resto for us when you get moving on it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: November-02-2008 at 11:15pm
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Also, I might be of help with the 327 Gray Marine Fireball. I did buy the manual and have found a good amount of parts sources. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 12:07am
I need to get it within a couple of weeks but it does not have a trailer so I've got to find one to borrow or rent. Steve, You already came to mind with the motor, I don't think I'll have any time to work on the boat this winter but I'd like to survey the engine and posibly fire it up so I know what I've got. I'm sure I'll be calling on the full resources of the site for this one but I'm realy looking forward to the challenge. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 2:00am
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Way to go Alan . It seems like just last week that you were telling Wendy and I how badly you wanted a wood boat project .I personaly wouldnt think of a better one to have than this . Or a better person to have it .
A big congratulations to you and Dana. Im sure she will be eager to help . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 2:17am
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Congrats Allen. That's a great wooden Correct Craft to restore. ------------- |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 11:47am
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Alan,
Let me know if you need anything on this one. It is not that far from me & I would be glad to help you out if you need some help picking it up. ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 12:04pm
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Good for you Alan! I could almost taste it when Pete put this topic up.
Now, if you only knew someone who knew something about wood work!
Sorry, I couldn't resist that(LOL)...I'm sure it'll turn out nice as the rest of your work!!! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: tjlake
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 2:26pm
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Alan, I'm about 20 mins. from this boat. Not much of a wrench turner, but am local if you run into anything "unpredicted".. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1882&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1985&yrend=1985 - 85 ski nautique |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 3:05pm
Would you mind emailing me your phone number just in case. Right now the plan is to pick it up this saturday. The biggest issue will be transfering it from the floor dollys to the trailer. My wife and I have done this before but it might be a good idea to have a little more muscle around. I don't anticipate any issues but it' nice to have a fallback plan just incase. Thank you. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 3:45pm
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Congrats Alan. Can't wait to see it.
Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 4:07pm
Greg, could you email me your phone number just incase we need it. Appreciate the offer. Thank you ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 4:16pm
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Big Al on the wooden scene. Congrats.. Not sure if this is a stress manager, or stress maker, but have a great time with it.. Let me know if you need any local help storing, flipping etc etc.. We'll look forward to watch it's resurrection...
Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 8:26pm
We'll have one of our "Chicago Beers" get-togethers at Alan's for the big roll it over!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 8:31pm
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Sounds good . Lets do it next Sunday . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 8:49pm
Once it gets back here if anyone wants to come down and take a look we could do that after work and there's a brew pub one block from my office for some local refreshments and a bite to eat. http://www.twobrosbrew.com/ - Two brothers Brewing ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Dtaylor373
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 9:34pm
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I am less than 10 min. from Tim, and I also know of him from the ACBS from long ago, for the first time, about a 2 years ago I meet him at a show at Lake Martin. I was very involved with the chapter, when it was very young,
At that time I held several offices and served as president the last year I was in.I am sure he is a member of the Dixieland Chapter still. I would be glad to help in any way, with the transfer, just let me know. I do have jacks and tools to bring if needed, I have done this before as well. ------------- David T |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 9:48pm
Dixieland and Indiana (secondary) ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Dtaylor373
Date Posted: November-03-2008 at 10:03pm
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I am self employed and feel sure I can help. Would like to meet you as well. If you need the help just let me know. I am way to old and had to many wooden boats to have taken on this project. I am just glad to see it will go to someone, who will appreciate it's heritage. ------------- David T |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-04-2008 at 12:33am
Dave I sent you an email but it timed out so not sure if you got it, could you shoot me your phone number please mailto:acote13@yahoo.com - email I really appreciate the offers guys. Thank you ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |